2013 P1 Registration Exercise for 2014 In-Take
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nicnac:
Yes. But looking at the data and assumed that all those unsuccessful SC and PR in Phase 2c(S) are allocated places before Phase 3, you can still see there's reduction of more than a thousand vacancies. Unless there's sudden appearance of 1000 SC and PR who did not registered before Phase 2c(S) and wait until before Phase 3 started then register which is impossible.I also believed a significant number of the vacancies after the 2c sup were taken up by the SC and PR who were still unsuccessful at the balloting at 2C sup. These children will be allocated a place at one of those with vacancies... That is why the no. Of vacancies left at those school will significantly decrease in comparison to the vacancies left we see on the website on the last day of 2c sup application date.
**MOE had already highlighted on the website that the vacancies left on the last day of p2csup then does not equal the number of vacancies available at phase 3... Due to the number of SC and Pr who had yet to secure a place.
The phase 3 vacancies was only updated when all the SC and PR has secured their places... That is why what you see on the last day of phase 2c sup does not tally with the opening no. Of phase 3.
i will check the exact data for 2013 when i go home as i had copied all data in my home computer. But for 2012, there was 6039 vacancies in phase 2c(s) and 2330 registered. Taken into consideration those unsuccessful SC and PR all allocated places before phase 3, there's still 3709 vacancies available for Phase 3 but there was only 2079 vacancies available in phase 3. -
I hv no data… unless one has actually done their work,
On the last day of phase 2c sup after moe updated the no. Of applicants of each sch,
Go add up all the vancacies avail at 2csup… then add up all the no of applicabts…get the difference…
Then at the beginning of phase 3… compare that difference to the vacanies avail… -
nicnac:
I can understand if classes is reduced when demand less than supply after phase 3 closed but in actual case, the classes were already reduced before phase 3 started.Regarding when some school may plan for 8 classes but ended up with 6 in the end... this may nean simply mean supply more tha demand. These were your observation for the past 2 yrs... therewhere there weren't over demand.
This is an exceptional year.... where all the foreign kids are due to enrol in p1.. so demand > supply
Let's observed and see in 2014 whether the classes had also reduced for those school that have demand > supply in phase 3 to get a better picture. -
nicnac:
I do have all available data for this yr and will let u know after I accessed my home computer tonight.I hv no data.. unless one has actually done their work,
On the last day of phase 2c sup after moe updated the no. Of applicants of each sch,
Go add up all the vancacies avail at 2csup... then add up all the no of applicabts...get the difference...
Then at the beginning of phase 3... compare that difference to the vacanies avail...
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Is this result of MOE trying to ensure schools do not have a large percentage of international students? Since priority is based on citizenship and PR status and since most Singaporeans tend to cluster in same schools due to neighborhood preference, elite school perception, alumni or church associations, often times the "left over" schools have a large population of international students, particularly newer schools with no alumni. I can understand MOE’s point of view that it doesn’t make sense to have a local school that is 50% international. No easy answers here, but there must be a better way to balance out the international population amongst the schools. There are a lot of positives of a having a school students coming in with different perspectives and different backgrounds.
As for getting into international schools, it is not easy either. A know a family that ended up in local schools because she could not get both children in the same international school. The Indian schools prefer Indians and actively discourage other nationalities even though they are the among the more affordable international schools. The American school gives priorities to American citizens (and that’s if they can afford $30+K/year). -
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Curious...
For this year's P1 registration, all 42,580 P1 places are filled, except for 700+ foreign frens' kids, which is only about 1.6 - 1.8% shortfall in the golden piggy year cohort. With 1504 places left for Phase 3,the nos. show that 1500+ foreign kids got places thru earlier Phases. (new SC or PR kids not born in Sg?)
As pointed out, Gov sch is not exactly cheap, at $6k /yr. The less costly intl schs start at $8-10k /yr which is reasonable. Sg is an Educ Hub, so our foreign frens have a choice, even to goto UWC at $30k/yr. They should not be too critical of the host nation. The 700+ kids will eventually find places at private schs n we wish them well.
Can name some of those less costly international schools, say that start around $8k or $ 10 k, per year?
$30k per year is ex.
Think $8 or $10k per year, may be more affordable to some parents. -
The $8/K to $10/K year are the Indian schools. I met an American family whose father was planning a sabbatical at a local university and thus cannot get DP’s for his kids to attend local schools. He approached these Indian schools because they are the only ones they could afford and he was actively discouraged stating the schools systems really follows the India model and was not appropriate for kids from other countries. The more western international schools are $21K+ and up. And that number doesn’t include registration, books, and other fees.
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phtthp:
Curious...quote:
For this year's P1 registration, all 42,580 P1 places are filled, except for 700+ foreign frens' kids, which is only about 1.6 - 1.8% shortfall in the golden piggy year cohort. With 1504 places left for Phase 3,the nos. show that 1500+ foreign kids got places thru earlier Phases. (new SC or PR kids not born in Sg?)
As pointed out, Gov sch is not exactly cheap, at $6k /yr. The less costly intl schs start at $8-10k /yr which is reasonable. Sg is an Educ Hub, so our foreign frens have a choice, even to goto UWC at $30k/yr. They should not be too critical of the host nation. The 700+ kids will eventually find places at private schs n we wish them well.
Can name some of those less costly international schools, say that start around $8k or $ 10 k, per year?
$30k per year is ex.
Think $8 or $10k per year, may be more affordable to some parents.
For Indian schools :
DPS : ~8K
NPS & Global Indian International : ~12K
the bus fees is ~200 per month for most of these schools (unless u stay with in 1km of the school)
These schools also have initial admission charges of 2-3K + there are separate charges for ECA / CCA which would be around 500-800 per annum -
Roastedsquid:
The $8/K to $10/K year are the Indian schools. I met an American family whose father was planning a sabbatical at a local university and thus cannot get DP's for his kids to attend local schools. He approached these Indian schools because they are the only ones they could afford and he was actively discouraged stating the schools systems really follows the India model and was not appropriate for kids from other countries. The more western international schools are $21K+ and up. And that number doesn't include registration, books, and other fees.
Yes, as far as i know from my colleagues, these schools hardly have any other nationals (may be nil). If there are only 1-2 kids of other nationals, then it may be difficult for the kids also to get adjusted in those schools. The syllabus being followed is mostly Indian primary syllabus (it is called CBSE) which is approved by MOE -
And another issue is the school terms. All the Indian international schools follow Indian school terms which is April - March unlike the local schools of Jan - December. Then the minimum age for P1. The child must be 6 years by april (or even june) instead of Jan 1st…
So, most of the foreigners who have plans of only 2-3 years in Singapore, do not prefer local schools. Because if they go back, the child will be in one class less than the same age kids in India
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