DSA 2022

Reply to DSA 2022 on Thu, 02 Feb 2023 13:49:24 GMT

ChiefKiasu — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 13:49:24 GMT

Thread locked. Please continue here:

https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2062444#p2062444

Reply to DSA 2022 on Thu, 02 Feb 2023 11:08:52 GMT

phtthp — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 11:08:52 GMT

Hi Chief kiasu or qms,

DSA 2022 was already over !

The students, born in 2010, are already in Secondary 1 this year (2023).

As such,
can we proceed to lock this thread so that people can ask qns in the
" DSA 2023" correct thread, instead
?

Thank you

Reply to DSA 2022 on Thu, 02 Feb 2023 11:01:55 GMT

Tick16 — Thu, 02 Feb 2023 11:01:55 GMT

Hihi,

Asking for a friend whose daughter intends to do DSA this year.
Anyone successfully got into PLMGS via DSA sports to be exact, volleyball? Also what was her p6 mid year AL scores as well?
Thanks much!

Reply to DSA 2022 on Fri, 06 Jan 2023 00:38:53 GMT

Mr.025413Clumsy — Fri, 06 Jan 2023 00:38:53 GMT

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Dear parents ,
Thank you for sharing all the valuable advice and information here. really appreciate it.
My child will be P5 next year and I am thinking to apply for DSA on art. She has strong interest on Art and has been attending NAFA since young. but she does not have any award or prize etc.
IF she manages to enter Sec via Art DSA, May I ask what will be commitment in Sec school and will there be further commitment to JC ? if i think further, can she choose Engineering subject in Uni later on?
Thank you

Much depends on which Secondary School your DD ends up in. Even so, if the school has an Art Program (for which your DD enters via DSA) would require a commitment in time and effort. The program would be made a compulsory CCA for her which shouldn't pose an issue if she's interested and passionate about art.

I don't know how (or if) this ties into JC but I don't see why your DD cannot choose Engineering as a degree to pursue. The Art Program/DSA and her university degree should not be related, except to the extent that she herself is keen to pursue an art-related degree (since that's her passion). In short, I don't see how her art DSA would preclude her from an Engineering degree much later on.

Reply to DSA 2022 on Fri, 30 Dec 2022 15:10:08 GMT

af7680 — Fri, 30 Dec 2022 15:10:08 GMT

@bbpinksg

Thank you so much for advice 😃

Reply to DSA 2022 on Fri, 30 Dec 2022 00:21:57 GMT

bbpinksg — Fri, 30 Dec 2022 00:21:57 GMT

No commitment for JC only 4 yrs commitment

Wish her the best of luck!

Reply to DSA 2022 on Thu, 29 Dec 2022 10:51:37 GMT

af7680 — Thu, 29 Dec 2022 10:51:37 GMT

Dear parents ,

Thank you for sharing all the valuable advice and information here. really appreciate it.
My child will be P5 next year and I am thinking to apply for DSA on art. She has strong interest on Art and has been attending NAFA since young. but she does not have any award or prize etc.
IF she manages to enter Sec via Art DSA, May I ask what will be commitment in Sec school and will there be further commitment to JC ? if i think further, can she choose Engineering subject in Uni later on?
Thank you

Reply to DSA 2022 on Fri, 23 Dec 2022 06:56:04 GMT

labva — Fri, 23 Dec 2022 06:56:04 GMT

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Great observation. Would like to know too. and Congrats!

Possible..haa.

I know 2 girls had their WL converted to CO too.

Reply to DSA 2022 on Wed, 21 Dec 2022 11:35:33 GMT

Tick16 — Wed, 21 Dec 2022 11:35:33 GMT

kaisuism\" post_id=\"2092553\" time=\"1671504627\" user_id=\"199574:

Congrats

Hmm.....is your DSA netball? I wonder if this has got to do with @Tick16 giving up SCGS CO which allows your WL converted to CO :idea:

Great observation. Would like to know too. and Congrats!

Reply to DSA 2022 on Tue, 20 Dec 2022 08:39:06 GMT

labva — Tue, 20 Dec 2022 08:39:06 GMT

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2091971\" time=\"1670842094\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2091971 time=1670842094 user_id=53606]
U have to weigh your own chances carefully. Go suss out how successful your coach thinks u will be for DSA at your desired school(s). And then decide whether to chiong for the competitions, or just focus on academic cramming. It is true, some of the exam components (eg prelim Oral or LC) may not have makeup sessions arranged by your school.

My DS had many classmates who gave their all for NSG, both individual and team sports, one team sport even won the gold spot, but only less than 5 team members were successful in their DSA. The rest (medal winners or top 5) were all sorely disappointed. Should they have focussed their efforts on improving their academic grades? Nobody knows whether the time spent could have pulled up by few AL bands or not. Sad to say, contrary to how those well-meaning folks who console u that going in by PSLE score is better, no CO/WL dont be sad, etc…i can tell u so many cases couldnt go in by PSLE score.[/quote]

Hi,

Agreed with Zac's mom. U got to weigh your chances carefully and how are you gg to beautify their DSA's portfolio.

For NSG 2022, my girl's sch team won 3rd placing in their zone.

U12 selection, 6 of them got thru.

6 of them applied for DSA, 5 of them received CO or had their WL converted.

Some popular schs will only consider kids with such portfolio. But even with such portfolio, there is no guarantee that you will get in too. Other than the selection trial, i think e interview plays an important part where they will detemine if the kids suit the school environment not.

Hope it helps.

Reply to DSA 2022 on Tue, 20 Dec 2022 08:17:52 GMT

labva — Tue, 20 Dec 2022 08:17:52 GMT

kaisuism\" post_id=\"2092553\" time=\"1671504627\" user_id=\"199574:

Congrats

Hmm.....is your DSA netball? I wonder if this has got to do with @Tick16 giving up SCGS CO which allows your WL converted to CO :idea:

Hi,

I know every school will have their list of WL submitted to MOE, rgdless of domains/IP/O. They shared the same listing with their unique ranking.

Reply to DSA 2022 on Tue, 20 Dec 2022 03:30:53 GMT

kaisuism — Tue, 20 Dec 2022 03:30:53 GMT

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If a student gives up a CO from a particular talent area, it doesn’t mean that a WL from the same talent area will be converted. Just saying.

Just speculating without any proof

Reply to DSA 2022 on Tue, 20 Dec 2022 02:52:25 GMT

floppy — Tue, 20 Dec 2022 02:52:25 GMT

kaisuism\" post_id=\"2092553\" time=\"1671504627\" user_id=\"199574:

Congrats

Hmm.....is your DSA netball? I wonder if this has got to do with @Tick16 giving up SCGS CO which allows your WL converted to CO :idea:

If a student gives up a CO from a particular talent area, it doesn’t mean that a WL from the same talent area will be converted. Just saying.

Reply to DSA 2022 on Tue, 20 Dec 2022 02:50:27 GMT

kaisuism — Tue, 20 Dec 2022 02:50:27 GMT

labva\" post_id=\"2092491\" time=\"1671454115\" user_id=\"198902:

Hi all,

SCGS WL converted to CO.

Congrats

Hmm.....is your DSA netball? I wonder if this has got to do with @Tick16 giving up SCGS CO which allows your WL converted to CO :idea:

Reply to DSA 2022 on Mon, 19 Dec 2022 23:00:16 GMT

Liew Nga Wing — Mon, 19 Dec 2022 23:00:16 GMT

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Hi all,

SCGS WL converted to CO.

:congrats:

Reply to DSA 2022 on Mon, 19 Dec 2022 12:48:35 GMT

labva — Mon, 19 Dec 2022 12:48:35 GMT

Hi all,

SCGS WL converted to CO.

Reply to DSA 2022 on Fri, 16 Dec 2022 02:09:38 GMT

SG_KP1 — Fri, 16 Dec 2022 02:09:38 GMT

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I think one of the biggest challenge for team sports is that no school (be it secondary, JC or tertiary institution) is able to take in an entire team via DSA (or similar). Unless the athletes are willing to consider other schools, they have to be realistic about their chances.

Further, while team sports require the efforts and contributions of everyone, there is still a difference between Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, and Luc Longley (all are three-peat NBA Champions). When spaces to give out are scarce, the cards fall the way they do. Not saying it's right or good, but kind of how the history of sports drafts and building out a team works...

Reply to DSA 2022 on Thu, 15 Dec 2022 17:22:24 GMT

floppy — Thu, 15 Dec 2022 17:22:24 GMT

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2091971\" time=\"1670842094\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2091971 time=1670842094 user_id=53606]
...
My DS had many classmates who gave their all for NSG, both individual and team sports, one team sport even won the gold spot, but only less than 5 team members were successful in their DSA. The rest (medal winners or top 5) were all sorely disappointed.
...[/quote]

I think one of the biggest challenge for team sports is that no school (be it secondary, JC or tertiary institution) is able to take in an entire team via DSA (or similar). Unless the athletes are willing to consider other schools, they have to be realistic about their chances.

Reply to DSA 2022 on Wed, 14 Dec 2022 05:03:26 GMT

newkeynesian — Wed, 14 Dec 2022 05:03:26 GMT

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2091971\" time=\"1670842094\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2091971 time=1670842094 user_id=53606]
Sad to say, contrary to how those well-meaning folks who console u that going in by PSLE score is better, no CO/WL dont be sad, etc…i can tell u so many cases couldnt go in by PSLE score.[/quote]

This is so damn true.

Reply to DSA 2022 on Mon, 12 Dec 2022 12:18:11 GMT

AHsDad — Mon, 12 Dec 2022 12:18:11 GMT

Good insights from parents 🏽

Although my girl did not DSA through sport, she did not slow down at all in her sport trainings / competitions (naturally less comp due to CoViD). Be mindful that the key point of DSA is for the TALENT and academic qualification is secondary, as long as the school deems the kid able to cope. This is especially for sports. If u mention can reduce training or competition, I would presume it’s not a school CCA? I would advise not to cut out the activities totally as the sport itself could be of use to ur child (stress relief and healthy body). Unless of course if there is timing conflicts or he is a bit behind on studies…

Below interesting article, food for thought

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2019/04/24/children-should-not-stop-playing-sport-run-exams-has-no-impact

Reply to DSA 2022 on Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:48:14 GMT

zac's mum — Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:48:14 GMT

U have to weigh your own chances carefully. Go suss out how successful your coach thinks u will be for DSA at your desired school(s). And then decide whether to chiong for the competitions, or just focus on academic cramming. It is true, some of the exam components (eg prelim Oral or LC) may not have makeup sessions arranged by your school.

My DS had many classmates who gave their all for NSG, both individual and team sports, one team sport even won the gold spot, but only less than 5 team members were successful in their DSA. The rest (medal winners or top 5) were all sorely disappointed. Should they have focussed their efforts on improving their academic grades? Nobody knows whether the time spent could have pulled up by few AL bands or not. Sad to say, contrary to how those well-meaning folks who console u that going in by PSLE score is better, no CO/WL dont be sad, etc…i can tell u so many cases couldnt go in by PSLE score.

Reply to DSA 2022 on Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:17:44 GMT

Tick16 — Mon, 12 Dec 2022 10:17:44 GMT

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Hi, can I check if we are going to apply to DSA in 2023. Can we just present the accolades for 2022 and earlier as we intend to focus on PSLE this year and greatly minimise training and may be even no competitions. Thanks

We had my DD to balance her trainings for NSG and for WA and games were even in between her mid year exams. Even clashed with oral exams but school made some changes for those going for competitions. It was not easy as parents because we knew the NSG games were important for her as there had been no competitions the past 2 years and it was for once, I cannot tell her that the sport is not important. It is equally important. Trainings were 2-3times in school and every Sunday external training. 😂 To cut the story short, her team won champs in their zone, which was an added colour to her DSA testimonial, she still managed to do relatively well in her mid years (better than her P5 eoy and P6 WA1). It was all well worth it! And as for PSLE, she surprised us with results beyond our expectations. 🤭

Reply to DSA 2022 on Fri, 09 Dec 2022 04:09:45 GMT

sharonkhoo — Fri, 09 Dec 2022 04:09:45 GMT

To add to that, if I were looking at applicants, choosing between a student who got good results because he studied intenstively for a year while cutting back on CCA, and another who got reasonably good results (perhaps somewhat poorer) but showed a capacity to do his CCA while maintaining his results, I think I would choose the one with higher capacity and the ability to manage his time between competing demands. After all, with DSA students, they have to balance their CCA with whatever else is going on in lessons - the competitions and activities will likely clash with class projects and tests as least some of the time.

Reply to DSA 2022 on Fri, 09 Dec 2022 03:56:16 GMT

SG_KP1 — Fri, 09 Dec 2022 03:56:16 GMT

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Hi, can I check if we are going to apply to DSA in 2023. Can we just present the accolades for 2022 and earlier as we intend to focus on PSLE this year and greatly minimise training and may be even no competitions. Thanks

Hi. You can but what if all of the competitors are still taking part in certain activities/competitions? If DSA is a lottery ticket, then can decide to focus efforts elsewhere and just see what happens. However, if the student has a reasonably competitive profile, I don't think withdrawing from such activities is going to help the case (this may also be domain specific; were most of the major competitions (for the domain) in P5 or are just as many still open in the first half of P6?). Regardless, if enter by DSA the training and competitions continue for four years of secondary school. I.e. it's not really enter and selectively decide when to participate.

As an aside and irrespective of DSA, I will suggest to try and let kids have a \"normal\" school life from Jan - May. My observation is that many kids are running on fumes or getting bored doing the same thing over and over (i.e. revision and practice papers) from June - Sept/early-October. Every kid is different so you need to make a call on what's best for your own child but for some I'm not sure starting earlier is really helping much (and may even be a net negative). I guess part of it is where the child stands now vs. where the target is.

There's no Mid-Year Exam (P6 SA1) next year so perhaps it saves the kids a round of test prep/stress in May. Some may be fresher come Fall, others may have more to try and do after Prelims.

Anyways, best of luck. Hope others can provide prospective a well.