digital Piano vs classical Piano

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:25:48 GMT

momresource — Thu, 19 Aug 2010 08:25:48 GMT

I have a china-made upright piano for cheap sale. Comes with original stool. Need space for my dining set. To clear at $680 nett.

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Sun, 15 Aug 2010 07:23:37 GMT

jce — Sun, 15 Aug 2010 07:23:37 GMT

Reselling a secondhand will be difficult. Let’s say you buy a 2ndhand piano that’s already 20 yrs, by the time you decide to sell, say 10 yrs down the road it would be 30 yrs old. An average Yamaha or Kawai won’t last many more years after that, let alone some of the other brands. The work needed to change parts that are worn would cost more than buying the piano. So generally speaking resale value would be low when it comes to the 3rd hand.

There’s a secondhand piano shop near Paya Lebar mrt, think it’s called Jesslyn, quite a wide variety to suit various budget

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:57:03 GMT

winterman05 — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:57:03 GMT

hi everyone,

I have a Casio digital piano for sale. Bought for dd piano practice but she decided to give up after 1 year. She didn’t practice much and so she loses her interest.

Brand: Casio AP24
Comes with bench also. It is still quite good condition.

pm me if interested.

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:21:51 GMT

Ivanlew — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:21:51 GMT

UncleLim:
Ivanlew:
My daugther has been learning piano for about 6 months at a music school.

We have a small keyboard passed down from my sister-in-law for her to practise but she is complainting not enough key.

I am considering to buy a digital piano or a classical piano. Classical piano of course is more expensive, take space and can't control the sound so not very good to practise at night. Would like to know is the feel of digital piano close or same as classical piano especially now digital piano got what hammer feeling like the classical piano. Can digital piano used to prepare for grade 1 and 2 test? How far can it go before you must get a classical piano?

I don't want to buy a classical pianobecause I don't really know whehter she will continue learning. If she stop than the classical piano will become a white elephant in my living room.

Need advise as I don't know about Piano.

Thanks
How about considering a second-hand piano to reduce the potential \"loss\" ? Some can be gotten for $1-2k instead of the usual $5-10k for brand new ones.

Hi,
Where can I get a second hand piano for $1 -2K? Is there any resale value?
Who will I sell to if I want to sell later it is sell back to the shop?

Rgds

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:16:35 GMT

Ivanlew — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:16:35 GMT

hquek:
hi ivanlew,

It's impossible to read into the future, but if you feel that you will be able to have your child continue with music learning and not easily allow her to give up halfway, perhaps it's better to get a classical piano.

Digital piano have limited span. if you spend that 1-2K, it's gone and will not be recouped easily becos there is no resale value.

I bought a 2nd hand classical. Most 2nd hand shops have return policy - within 1 year, % will be paid if you decide to return.

Currently, DS1 (6 y/o) is learning piano becos mummy wants him to. He hates to practice and yearns to stop the classes, but I'm persisting just cos many pp have told me how they regret dropping it when young. Most pp I interview say that young kids/teens hate music classes, but they grow to eventually like it. it's all very individual.

Hi,

I agreed that can't read the future but looking at my daughter who is 8 years old don't really think she will continue till grade 8. ha ha...

Lot of my friends who learnt till grade 5 or 8 all told me don't force kids to learn piano it will kill their interest instead because they experience themselves and some don't even want to touch the piano after they completed grade 8. Have a friend who only start learning piano when she is 20 years old give out after passing grade 5, she told me very difficult. Their common comment is, piano is niece to play for liesure but they hate to take exam.

I don't wish to force and nag my daughter to learn as I have already nagging her to study every week, I am very tire.

I think piano teacher also play an important part. If you got a gentle teacher who know how to encourage children than they will continue to learn, on the other hand if the teacher is strict and forcefull than they will reluctant to learn piano. That what happen to my daugther. Initially she got a very strict teacher and she told me she wanted to stop learning and feel stress after 2 months but later the school changed another teacher, she told me she wanted to continue.

I just flick through Christopori catalog they are selling a brand new digital piano at $1450 at discount price and guarantee $700 trade-in value to upgrade to new piano within 2 years. Maybe that might be another alternative.

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:00:41 GMT

Emelyn — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 14:00:41 GMT

Ivanlew,

have sent u a pm.

Cheers !

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:27:06 GMT

markfch — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 13:27:06 GMT

Ivanlew:
I am considering to buy a digital piano or a classical piano. Classical piano of course is more expensive, take space and can't control the sound so not very good to practise at night. Would like to know is the feel of digital piano close or same as classical piano especially now digital piano got what hammer feeling like the classical piano. Can digital piano used to prepare for grade 1 and 2 test? How far can it go before you must get a classical piano?

I think what you meant is choosing between digital & acoustic piano. I don't think there is such a term as classical piano, only classical music. Many acoustic pianos comes with a silent middle pedal that when depressed, lowers a piece of felt between the hammers and strings which in turn reduces the vol of the sound that is produced by the keys when pressed. According to some piano teachers I spoke to, it is undesirable to use this pedal especially by kids as it encourages them to use excessive force when playing the piano.

If you are only aiming for grade 1 or 2, I'm sure a digital piano with weighted keys such as Yamaha Clavinova series should suffice. However even with weighted keys, the touch of an acoustic piano is still easier to control than that of a digital piano, imho. That's why in YMS, all the one-to-one students are using acoustic pianos for lessons.

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:53:40 GMT

sleepy — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:53:40 GMT

Ivanlew:

Need advise as I don't know about Piano.

Thanks

There's some related discussion on this thread http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11669

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:40:24 GMT

sleepy — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 11:40:24 GMT

HyperKiasu:
but if he still reluctant to practice, how to persuade him?

Just wondering, how is his usual practice session at home? Does he sit alone or are you accompanying him?

Learning an instrument from scratch is no easy feat. Frankly speaking, I find it tough too, the notes simply swim in front of me, I totally catched no ball.

Anyway, just to share. When my dd started initially, we faced some resistance too as piano was too hard for her. I asked hubby to sit with her for 15 minutes everyday. At least he's better at notes reading than I do. After my dd ovecame the initial obstacle plus possible mental block, she sort of picked up the momentum and practising became her daily routine.
Of course I still need to remind (nag) her to practice.

Once a child is willing to practice, you will naturally see good progress

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:00:19 GMT

HyperKiasu — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 09:00:19 GMT

markfch:
HyperKiasu:
2) piano is flurry, no practical use in the future. i heed her advice and didn't insist my son on piano. so he quitted piano after about 2 yrs with yamaha.
Not really true right? I think one of the happiest professions is to be a piano teacher, imho

my SIL's comment about her job is Stable Only lah...

dun think my son will become a piano teacher even if he picks up again as one of his hobbies. no such music gene run in both my family and my hubby's....
i envy very much those kids who can play piano....

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:47:20 GMT

markfch — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 08:47:20 GMT

HyperKiasu:
2) piano is flurry, no practical use in the future. i heed her advice and didn't insist my son on piano. so he quitted piano after about 2 yrs with yamaha.

Not really true right? I think one of the happiest professions is to be a piano teacher, imho

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:08:30 GMT

HyperKiasu — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 07:08:30 GMT

hquek:
hi ivanlew,

It's impossible to read into the future, but if you feel that you will be able to have your child continue with music learning and not easily allow her to give up halfway, perhaps it's better to get a classical piano.

Digital piano have limited span. if you spend that 1-2K, it's gone and will not be recouped easily becos there is no resale value.

I bought a 2nd hand classical. Most 2nd hand shops have return policy - within 1 year, % will be paid if you decide to return.

Currently, DS1 (6 y/o) is learning piano becos mummy wants him to. He hates to practice and yearns to stop the classes, but I'm persisting just cos many pp have told me how they regret dropping it when young. Most pp I interview say that young kids/teens hate music classes, but they grow to eventually like it. it's all very individual.

hquek,

my son also hated to practice and my SIL (who is a piano teacher) suggested to quit. her thought is 1) boy shall spend more time in sports if he has not developed fondness of instruments. 2) piano is flurry, no practical use in the future. i heed her advice and didn't insist my son on piano. so he quitted piano after about 2 yrs with yamaha.

after reading your post, i m in a dilemma now, shall i encourage him to pick up piano, (I would regret about my past decision to quit , if my son might love piano after he grows?)
but if he still reluctant to practice, how to persuade him?

can share your experience ?

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:54:29 GMT

melissang — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:54:29 GMT

Hi

For a start if you do not want to spend to much, you can consider getting a 2nd hand digital piano. The basic ones with weighted keys. You should be able to get 1 at less than $500. But make sure you go have a look first.

Cause for a piano, i agree it has resale value, but you may need to spend on maintanance like tuning of the piano.

If you think long term and want to take the risk, a Classical is definately the best, but just for trial, i suggest you get a digital piano first.
Because, even for classical, there are different grades, you get the basic ones which may not be able to last them through grade 8. Usually for grade 3 and above, you will need an exam model.

All the best in your piano hunting

Cheers !

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:46:20 GMT

MMM — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:46:20 GMT

Hi,

We were in that position before. But having 3 kids help to make the decision easier. If no. 1 don't make it, no. 2 might? If no. 2 don't make it, we still have no. 3 :lol:

These were the key considerations :
* The feel and weight of key difference between classical and digital
* The resale value. Digital has no value but classical if we take care of it still has resale value. This was the key driving factor for us.

We decided on a 2nd hand 17 yrs old classical in the end. It's been 4 years and still working well though we are still hanging on with the kid's piano learning like hquek mentioned. We are hanging on and I am hoping that one day they will practise because they enjoy it and have a keen interest/ passion in it.

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:31:01 GMT

hquek — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:31:01 GMT

hi ivanlew,

It’s impossible to read into the future, but if you feel that you will be able to have your child continue with music learning and not easily allow her to give up halfway, perhaps it’s better to get a classical piano.

Digital piano have limited span. if you spend that 1-2K, it’s gone and will not be recouped easily becos there is no resale value.

I bought a 2nd hand classical. Most 2nd hand shops have return policy - within 1 year, % will be paid if you decide to return.

Currently, DS1 (6 y/o) is learning piano becos mummy wants him to. He hates to practice and yearns to stop the classes, but I’m persisting just cos many pp have told me how they regret dropping it when young. Most pp I interview say that young kids/teens hate music classes, but they grow to eventually like it. it’s all very individual.

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:15:46 GMT

UncleLim — Fri, 13 Aug 2010 06:15:46 GMT

Ivanlew:
My daugther has been learning piano for about 6 months at a music school.

We have a small keyboard passed down from my sister-in-law for her to practise but she is complainting not enough key.

I am considering to buy a digital piano or a classical piano. Classical piano of course is more expensive, take space and can't control the sound so not very good to practise at night. Would like to know is the feel of digital piano close or same as classical piano especially now digital piano got what hammer feeling like the classical piano. Can digital piano used to prepare for grade 1 and 2 test? How far can it go before you must get a classical piano?

I don't want to buy a classical pianobecause I don't really know whehter she will continue learning. If she stop than the classical piano will become a white elephant in my living room.

Need advise as I don't know about Piano.

Thanks

How about considering a second-hand piano to reduce the potential \"loss\" ? Some can be gotten for $1-2k instead of the usual $5-10k for brand new ones.

Reply to digital Piano vs classical Piano on Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:40:57 GMT

compvale — Thu, 12 Aug 2010 15:40:57 GMT

Ivanlew:
My daugther has been learning piano for about 6 months at a music school.

We have a small keyboard passed down from my sister-in-law for her to practise but she is complainting not enough key.

I am considering to buy a digital piano or a classical piano. Classical piano of course is more expensive, take space and can't control the sound so not very good to practise at night. Would like to know is the feel of digital piano close or same as classical piano especially now digital piano got what hammer feeling like the classical piano. Can digital piano used to prepare for grade 1 and 2 test? How far can it go before you must get a classical piano?

I don't want to buy a classical pianobecause I don't really know whehter she will continue learning. If she stop than the classical piano will become a white elephant in my living room.

Need advise as I don't know about Piano.

Thanks

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Hi....i was in a similar situation. Finally bought digital piano cos can control volume, listen via headphones & record the songs she played. Though touch and feel not exactly same as classical piano, it is much better than keyboard. She has since passed grade 1 so am considering upgrading the piano for her.