<![CDATA[Opinions of the Primary School Registration System]]>Title: Vacancies in Ai Tong School for phase 2B


Hi,

We are registering our kid for Ai Tong, under phase 2B, 1-2km.

During the registration, we started with 41 places. On the second day, the number of places suddenly became 39. Reason given by the school was that 2 places were given to families who forgotten to register during the previous phases. Also, MOE had approved this, and had directed ATS to take the places out of phase 2B, leaving the places in 2C as it was before.

Now, there are only 5 places, with 9 applicants.

We were so fed up with this move, and had written to MOE about it. Still waiting for a proper reply on this.

:x :rant:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/18535/opinions-of-the-primary-school-registration-systemRSS for NodeSun, 03 May 2026 09:08:00 GMTTue, 22 Jul 2008 03:49:30 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 17:10:36 GMT]]>

floppy\" post_id=\"2063928\" time=\"1649417063\" user_id=\"97579:

欺人亦是自欺，此又是自欺之甚者。

Ah Gong called it “the hard truth”.
Hi Friend, your Chinese is so good. I surrender. :salute:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063940https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063940Fri, 08 Apr 2022 17:10:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 11:45:10 GMT]]>Well MOE wants to make all schools are good schools, then first the resource allocation must be the same. No indep or autonomous or govt-aided schools. All MOE funding the schools becomes the same. Then cut off alumni clan and church funding, then rotate out the prominent principals, then relocate certain schools,…maybe overtime, all schools may become good in the same degree.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063932https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063932Fri, 08 Apr 2022 11:45:10 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 11:24:23 GMT]]>

Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2063927\" time=\"1649416143\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2063927 time=1649416143 user_id=195250]
Yes, but no need to state it publicly because it may hurt the feelings of those study and teach in the school. In Chinese, we called this as \"阴德\".[/quote]
欺人亦是自欺，此又是自欺之甚者。

Ah Gong called it “the hard truth”.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063928https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063928Fri, 08 Apr 2022 11:24:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 11:09:03 GMT]]>

floppy\" post_id=\"2063925\" time=\"1649415284\" user_id=\"97579:

All songs are good schools is what I’ll say if I’m running for Parliament, but I’m not… So I think we can be honest enough to acknowledge that some schools are more good than others.
Yes, but no need to state it publicly because it may hurt the feelings of those study and teach in the school. In Chinese, we called this as \"阴德\".

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063927https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063927Fri, 08 Apr 2022 11:09:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 10:54:44 GMT]]>

Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2063923\" time=\"1649412987\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2063923 time=1649412987 user_id=195250]
All schools are good schools. Think about those students and teachers in Townville Primary School. I don't think they will be happy when they are compared to CHIJ St Nicholas in such a way.[/quote]
All songs are good schools is what I’ll say if I’m running for Parliament, but I’m not… So I think we can be honest enough to acknowledge that some schools are more good than others.

The resources given to Townsville will never be the same nor be able to match the resources that SNGS has. Happy or not, that’s the way it is.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063925https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063925Fri, 08 Apr 2022 10:54:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 10:16:27 GMT]]>All schools are good schools. Think about those students and teachers in Townville Primary School. I don’t think they will be happy when they are compared to CHIJ St Nicholas in such a way.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063923https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063923Fri, 08 Apr 2022 10:16:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 09:55:13 GMT]]>I think the mergers are just a straightforward case of merging the school with the smallest enrolment in that district/planning area…with the next smallest enrolment. That is likely the only school with sufficient empty places to accommodate the merged incoming students.


The popular schools would be far too full and bursting at the seams to take in any more.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063922https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063922Fri, 08 Apr 2022 09:55:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 09:24:01 GMT]]>

floppy\" post_id=\"2063908\" time=\"1649406425\" user_id=\"97579:

The objective of merging schools is to better utilise and manage resources, so they say. We all know that schools that don't see an improvement in demand will just close down eventually.

It's like palliative care for the schools.
\"Palliative care\" 😆
Well, the more recent merges seem to combine one lesser known school with a marginally better school. I don't know what MOE is playing at. I'm sure if you merge Townsville with CHIJ St Nicholas, everyone will rejoice 😂

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063919https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063919Fri, 08 Apr 2022 09:24:01 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 08:27:05 GMT]]>

Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=\"2063905\" time=\"1649405818\" user_id=\"195250:[quote=\"Liew Nga Wing\" post_id=2063905 time=1649405818 user_id=195250]
Is the objective of merging schools is to make it more recognised and see greater demand than before? :?[/quote]
The objective of merging schools is to better utilise and manage resources, so they say. We all know that schools that don't see an improvement in demand will just close down eventually.

It's like palliative care for the schools.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063908https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063908Fri, 08 Apr 2022 08:27:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 08:16:58 GMT]]>

floppy\" post_id=\"2063887\" time=\"1649396534\" user_id=\"97579:

Taking all historical data and past cases of mergers into consideration, the probability of \"merged\" schools becoming more popular or surviving (i.e. no more further \"merger\" or closed down) is extremely low.
Is the objective of merging schools is to make it more recognised and see greater demand than before? :?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063905https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063905Fri, 08 Apr 2022 08:16:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 05:42:14 GMT]]>

ChiefKiasu\" post_id=\"2063862\" time=\"1649382638\" user_id=\"3:

I don't recall a \"merged\" school becoming eventually \"successful\" in the sense that it is more recognised and see greater demand than before. Can you think of any?
Is this a GEP test question?

I can only think of one.

Min Xin Primary School (located next to Yu Neng Primary School) merged with Yu Neng (doh!) in 2003. Yu Neng is definitely \"more recognised\" and has a great demand now (ballot for SC < 1km last couple of years). That said, the school was also somewhat popular in the past. Not sure whether you can attribute its popularity due to the \"merger\" or because the next door neighbour was removed from the market.

There are a number of other schools e.g. Anderson Primary, that see a moderate increase in demand due to merger. I think the most logical explanation is due to fewer 'competitors' in the market amidst changing demographics.

For secondary schools, I don't think there's ever a secondary school that became \"successful\" and \"more recognised\" after merger. It seems like the only way to improve a secondary school's fortune is to change their fengshui by moving their home ground, e.g. Bowen Secondary, Yusof Ishak Secondary, etc but success isn't always guaranteed.

Taking all historical data and past cases of mergers into consideration, the probability of \"merged\" schools becoming more popular or surviving (i.e. no more further \"merger\" or closed down) is extremely low.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063887https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063887Fri, 08 Apr 2022 05:42:14 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Fri, 08 Apr 2022 01:50:38 GMT]]>I don’t recall a "merged" school becoming eventually "successful" in the sense that it is more recognised and see greater demand than before. Can you think of any?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063862https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063862Fri, 08 Apr 2022 01:50:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Thu, 07 Apr 2022 15:47:47 GMT]]>Names finalised for 16 primary, secondary schools to be merged between 2023 and 2025

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/moe-school-merger-names-finalised-2612531

The names of three pairs of primary schools and five pairs of secondary schools to be merged over the next three years have been finalised, the Ministry of Education (MOE) announced on Wednesday (Apr 6).

Telok Kurau Primary School - which marks its 96th anniversary this year (P/S: FWIW, the alma mater of the late PM of Singapore, LKY, as well as the late PM of Malayia Datuk Hussein Onn) - will retain its name in its merger with Eunos Primary School next year.

Farrer Park Primary School - which itself was the result of a merger between the Boon Keng and May Primary Schools in 2002 - will also retain its name after being merged with Stamford Primary School in 2023.

Next year will also see the merger between Guangyang and Townsville primary schools to become Townsville Primary School.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063848https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2063848Thu, 07 Apr 2022 15:47:47 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Sun, 29 Aug 2021 23:55:35 GMT]]>

floppy\" post_id=\"2035748\" time=\"1630185600\" user_id=\"97579:

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2035725\" time=\"1630150682\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2035725 time=1630150682 user_id=53606]https://www.todayonline.com/big-read/big-read-not-faint-hearted-parents-jump-through-hoops-go-great-guns-secure-pri-1-spots?fbclid=IwAR3CnM3jSiPqxdZXK4-7MZGLINKyy1IF4ppjrYvyvv-OUr-MFdh0Twp62F0
\"Mrs Ho GL, 41, a freelancer in the financial industry, said that, when she was still pregnant with a boy in 2012, she and her husband paid S$100 to join the alumni association of his school, a well-known boys’ school in Bishan which she declined to name.\"

Wah... this one so hard to guess. Raffles Institution (Primary Section)?[/quote]
😆 :rotflmao:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035834https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035834Sun, 29 Aug 2021 23:55:35 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Sun, 29 Aug 2021 12:05:07 GMT]]>

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2035752\" time=\"1630200788\" user_id=\"17023:

Power. Scan tummy, know it’s a boy then quickly ask hubby to put $100 to join alumni. If girl? Save that $100. Hey! what is the purpose of joining alumni? If most alumni generally do nothing for the school then it’s just a loophole in the policy.

Maybe Alumni, Grassroots leaders, school volunteers all can just merge under phase 2B. It is a policy issue, just whether the education minister of the day has the courage to do something about it.

Pay $100 to get a place in a good school still want to KPKB. Actually paying $100 is just a small price to pay to ensure a head start. The alumni policy results in a less than level playing field for all the school going children.
paying $100, is peanut

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035801https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035801Sun, 29 Aug 2021 12:05:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Sun, 29 Aug 2021 03:31:49 GMT]]>

Hendon\" post_id=\"2035751\" time=\"1630200589\" user_id=\"142376:

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2035725\" time=\"1630150682\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2035725 time=1630150682 user_id=53606]https://www.todayonline.com/big-read/big-read-not-faint-hearted-parents-jump-through-hoops-go-great-guns-secure-pri-1-spots?fbclid=IwAR3CnM3jSiPqxdZXK4-7MZGLINKyy1IF4ppjrYvyvv-OUr-MFdh0Twp62F0
History

How the Pri 1 registration system evolved over almost 5 decades
https://www.todayonline.com/node/12315561[/quote]
There are only three criteria that have remained somewhat unchanged from 1972.

Phase 1: For siblings studying in the same school.
Phase 2: For children whose parents have direct connection to the school.
Phase 2: For children whose parents, brothers or sisters have completed their entire primary school in the school.

And of cos, Phase 3 for everyone else.

Thought it’s useful to keep that perspective in mind.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035762https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035762Sun, 29 Aug 2021 03:31:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Sun, 29 Aug 2021 03:04:55 GMT]]>

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2035752\" time=\"1630200788\" user_id=\"17023:

Power. Scan tummy, know it’s a boy then quickly ask hubby to put $100 to join alumni. If girl? Save that $100. Hey! what is the purpose of joining alumni? If most alumni generally do nothing for the school then it’s just a loophole in the policy.

Maybe Alumni, Grassroots leaders, school volunteers all can just merge under phase 2B. It is a policy issue, just whether the education minister of the day has the courage to do something about it.

Pay $100 to get a place in a good school still want to KPKB. Actually paying $100 is just a small price to pay to ensure a head start. The alumni policy results in a less than level playing field for all the school going children.
It’s not a loophole in the policy when the policy never states that an alumni must do something. Hence, not doing anything is actually following the policy correctly 😆

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035758https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035758Sun, 29 Aug 2021 03:04:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Sun, 29 Aug 2021 01:39:36 GMT]]>

someone\" post_id=\"2035725\" time=\"1630150682\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"someone\" post_id=2035725 time=1630150682 user_id=53606]
https://www.todayonline.com/big-read/big-read-not-faint-hearted-parents-jump-through-hoops-go-great-guns-secure-pri-1-spots?fbclid=IwAR3CnM3jSiPqxdZXK4-7MZGLINKyy1IF4ppjrYvyvv-OUr-MFdh0Twp62F0


\"Mrs Ho GL, 41, a freelancer in the financial industry, said that, when she was still pregnant with a boy in 2012, she and her husband paid S$100 to join the alumni association of his school, a well-known boys’ school in Bishan which she declined to name.\"

[/quote]
cannot be Catholic High
because

CHS alumni fees is $500,
not $100


https://cha.org.sg/membership-fees-increase-for-new-applicants/

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035753https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035753Sun, 29 Aug 2021 01:39:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Sun, 29 Aug 2021 01:33:08 GMT]]>Power. Scan tummy, know it’s a boy then quickly ask hubby to put $100 to join alumni. If girl? Save that $100. Hey! what is the purpose of joining alumni? If most alumni generally do nothing for the school then it’s just a loophole in the policy.


Maybe Alumni, Grassroots leaders, school volunteers all can just merge under phase 2B. It is a policy issue, just whether the education minister of the day has the courage to do something about it.

Pay $100 to get a place in a good school still want to KPKB. Actually paying $100 is just a small price to pay to ensure a head start. The alumni policy results in a less than level playing field for all the school going children.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035752https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035752Sun, 29 Aug 2021 01:33:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Sun, 29 Aug 2021 01:29:49 GMT]]>

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2035725\" time=\"1630150682\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2035725 time=1630150682 user_id=53606]
https://www.todayonline.com/big-read/big-read-not-faint-hearted-parents-jump-through-hoops-go-great-guns-secure-pri-1-spots?fbclid=IwAR3CnM3jSiPqxdZXK4-7MZGLINKyy1IF4ppjrYvyvv-OUr-MFdh0Twp62F0[/quote]
History

How the Pri 1 registration system evolved over almost 5 decades
https://www.todayonline.com/node/12315561

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035751https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035751Sun, 29 Aug 2021 01:29:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Sat, 28 Aug 2021 22:40:03 GMT]]>

floppy\" post_id=\"2035748\" time=\"1630185600\" user_id=\"97579:

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2035725\" time=\"1630150682\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2035725 time=1630150682 user_id=53606]https://www.todayonline.com/big-read/big-read-not-faint-hearted-parents-jump-through-hoops-go-great-guns-secure-pri-1-spots?fbclid=IwAR3CnM3jSiPqxdZXK4-7MZGLINKyy1IF4ppjrYvyvv-OUr-MFdh0Twp62F0
\"Mrs Ho GL, 41, a freelancer in the financial industry, said that, when she was still pregnant with a boy in 2012, she and her husband paid S$100 to join the alumni association of his school, a well-known boys’ school in Bishan which she declined to name.\"

Wah... this one so hard to guess. Raffles Institution (Primary Section)?[/quote]
Maybe Guangyang Boys School.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035749https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035749Sat, 28 Aug 2021 22:40:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Sat, 28 Aug 2021 21:20:00 GMT]]>

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2035725\" time=\"1630150682\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2035725 time=1630150682 user_id=53606]
https://www.todayonline.com/big-read/big-read-not-faint-hearted-parents-jump-through-hoops-go-great-guns-secure-pri-1-spots?fbclid=IwAR3CnM3jSiPqxdZXK4-7MZGLINKyy1IF4ppjrYvyvv-OUr-MFdh0Twp62F0[/quote]
\"Mrs Ho GL, 41, a freelancer in the financial industry, said that, when she was still pregnant with a boy in 2012, she and her husband paid S$100 to join the alumni association of his school, a well-known boys’ school in Bishan which she declined to name.\"

Wah... this one so hard to guess. Raffles Institution (Primary Section)?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035748https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035748Sat, 28 Aug 2021 21:20:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:38:02 GMT]]>https://www.todayonline.com/big-read/big-read-not-faint-hearted-parents-jump-through-hoops-go-great-guns-secure-pri-1-spots?fbclid=IwAR3CnM3jSiPqxdZXK4-7MZGLINKyy1IF4ppjrYvyvv-OUr-MFdh0Twp62F0

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035725https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2035725Sat, 28 Aug 2021 11:38:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to Opinions of the Primary School Registration System on Wed, 04 Aug 2021 04:58:08 GMT]]>

dreamz88\" post_id=\"2032912\" time=\"1628042708\" user_id=\"159588:

floppy\" post_id=\"2027972\" time=\"1624528208\" user_id=\"97579:

Sound easy to combine Phase 2A1 and Phase 2A2 but it's not, due to the reasons shared by phtttp. If you combined both, schools without alumni association would probably find no reason to start one, and schools with alumni association would have to force everyone to join.

There are many good reasons why schools should have an alumni association. However, it's not easy to start one, primarily because it's a formal organisation governed by laws and rules. For schools with an alumni association, forcing everyone to join favours families who maybe better off (as it costs anywhere between $300 to $1,000 to join).

Right now, the only school having regular issues with Phase 2A1 is SNGS. In this particular case, it isn't about the phases but with the classification of an 'alumni'. Given that it's a 'full-school', alumni of the school's secondary section automatically becomes eligible to Phase 2A1. That's probably the first loophole that needs to be addressed in any solution, i.e. if you didn't study in the primary, you shouldn't be eligible for Phase 2A1. This would apply to students of CHS, MGS, etc as well.

Agree on this. Whilst I understand the full schools want to be \"inclusive\" but really, if you didn't study in the primary section, you shouldn't be eligible for Phase 2A1.

This is also to be fair to other applicants, since this group of parents would be eligible to apply for 2 Alumni schools under 2A, the full school where they attended the secondary section, and their own primary school as well.

Catholic High, Maris Stella, SCGS, St Nick and MGS are all \"Full\" schools. Full schools means only one common school Principal managing both the (primary & Secondary) division students' matter. Often, full schools (primary and Sec) physical location, are side by side each other.

In the eyes of Principal(s) from the Full schools, they don't bother whether you are a student, from the primary or from the Secondary section. Their thinking is,
as long as you are a student studying in my school under my school management, you will qualify for Phase 2A(1) alumni, even though you have never studied before at all, in the primary school. After all, all of you (students), regardless of whether come from Primary or Secondary section, you have all helped to build up our school's reputation & traditions, one way or another, in all these past years.


Now,
since MGS is a \"Full\" school and her brother school is ACS, then why didn't they convert (ACS primary and ACS Barker Secondary ) into a \"Full\" school ? Strange, right ?

The sister school (MGS) is already a Full school, yet how come ACS isn't?

One might counter-argue that the (ACS primary and ACS Barker Secondary) have 2 different school Principal(s).
Hence, ACS cannot be a \"Full\" school.
But if MGS, the sister school, is already a \"Full\" school, then how come cannot change ACS also into another full school, by having just ONE common Principal, instead of two now ?

This way, once ACS become a Full school, then next time those ACS boys who studied only in the Secondary section but never studied in ACS primary at all, can also qualify for future Phase 2A(1) alumni too. Follow the same style as MGS !


If can convert ACS into a Full school, then might as well convert SJI into a full school too

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2032939https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/2032939Wed, 04 Aug 2021 04:58:08 GMT