PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:33:07 GMT

THC — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 21:33:07 GMT

There are thousands of teacher and hundreds thousands of student up to secondary school, thus you will get all kind of teacher/student. However rule of engagement between teacher to student must be strictly maintain and enforce.

Can’t imagine what will happen next if this incident was not reported ? her bahaviour does not qualify her to be a teacher.

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:50:42 GMT

Atan — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 20:50:42 GMT

I think some parents are in denial.. ..My DS's classboy from P1 is totally out of control and sly..bullying and lying his way thru. Both his parents are NUS prof and they simply ignore the complains and blame everyone else. Mother will visit and complain everything about the school weekly. When he doesn't score as high as expected for enrichment tests eg., mum will cry and whine, then scold and demand for change in scores..

Even if he makes it to the top class in P3 next year, I hope my DS will be allocated to another class [/quote]

This kind of behaviour is Unbelievable -she is a NUS prof? Sorry, no offence, but is she a Chinese nationale?

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:01:44 GMT

maisy — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 15:01:44 GMT

AC:
Childrens behaviour is parent responsiblity

:drool: I wonder Teachers behaviour is ultimately who reponsilbility huh? :scratchhead:

The teachers' behaviour is the responsibility of the teachers' respective parents lor... Teachers also have parents right?

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:25:46 GMT

auntieM — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 14:25:46 GMT

MMM:
Actually some parents don't seem to be able to control their kids at all. Eg. there is this P4 boy in my kids' school bus. He joined after his school bus uncle passed away and was reallocated to their bus. He was a terror/ bully, etc... But my kids stand up to him so he don't dare to bully them much and they are very much bigger than him in terms of build.

During my hubby's CNY gathering with his JC friends, concidentally one of the friend's wife is the auntie of this particular boy. She related to us that the boy is out of control and very very naughty that they cannot even control him. Not that they don't know, not that they didn't stop him but he is one of those kids that are out of control...

I think some parents are in denial.. ..My DS's classboy from P1 is totally out of control and sly..bullying and lying his way thru. Both his parents are NUS prof and they simply ignore the complains and blame everyone else. Mother will visit and complain everything about the school weekly. When he doesn't score as high as expected for enrichment tests eg., mum will cry and whine, then scold and demand for change in scores..
Even if he makes it to the top class in P3 next year, I hope my DS will be allocated to another class

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:45:08 GMT

puff — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:45:08 GMT

When I was P2 my teacher pinched my cheek for getting 0mark in spelling.

I still remember the teacher wasn’t sack leh when my mom complained to the P as my cheek was red n swollen ( really swollen to almost double the size).
Nowadays sch v strict n dun give chance to teacher especially when all the kids become v bao bei to their parent.

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:28:44 GMT

MMM — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:28:44 GMT

Actually some parents don’t seem to be able to control their kids at all. Eg. there is this P4 boy in my kids’ school bus. He joined after his school bus uncle passed away and was reallocated to their bus. He was a terror/ bully, etc… But my kids stand up to him so he don’t dare to bully them much and they are very much bigger than him in terms of build.

During my hubby’s CNY gathering with his JC friends, concidentally one of the friend’s wife is the auntie of this particular boy. She related to us that the boy is out of control and very very naughty that they cannot even control him. Not that they don’t know, not that they didn’t stop him but he is one of those kids that are out of control…

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:17:37 GMT

annachung.05739kimeng.05739com — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 06:17:37 GMT

Childrens behaviour is parent responsiblity

:drool: I wonder Teachers behaviour is ultimately who reponsilbility huh? :scratchhead:

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Fri, 22 Jul 2011 04:28:13 GMT

maisy — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 04:28:13 GMT

mama_g:
For me i don't mind teachers punish my kid if got a relevant reason. But to pull hair or bang head of kids or other violence is unacceptable.

I only accept smack hands, stand a corner pull ears, do push up, copy the sentence \"I will not do this again\" 1000 times.

Am I the indulgent parent?

:evil: Agree with d Corporate Punishment.... :spank: Spank d PE teacher first..second d Principal..last d Pupil.... :rotflmao: STAND @ a corner..pull ears, WRITE LINES...NO BREAK..CANNOT GO TOILET... :rotflmao: :rotflmao:[/quote]
:? Why spank the teacher and principal?? Children's behavior is ultimately parents' responsibility? No??

Agreed this teacher's behavior is more that corporate punishment. More of abusing! No police case? If an employer does that to the maid, employer will be charge to court, we are talking about a 8yr old boy here! :mad:[/quote]

You have a point here. If employer does that to a maid, sure get charged in court!
How can we allow the teacher who has clearly abused a child walk away scot-free?
She should be charged in court as well... at least it will serve as a timely reminder for teachers not to abuse children!!!

PS: (I know it is not easy to handle kids, that's why teachers can choose to shout at kids or make them stand in a corner or even bar them from attending lessons (of course parents must be informed of any such move - whatever method is fine with me, so long as there is no hooligan behaviouor, please )

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:49:20 GMT

mama_g — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:49:20 GMT

For me i don't mind teachers punish my kid if got a relevant reason. But to pull hair or bang head of kids or other violence is unacceptable.

I only accept smack hands, stand a corner pull ears, do push up, copy the sentence \"I will not do this again\" 1000 times.

Am I the indulgent parent?[/quote]
:evil: Agree with d Corporate Punishment.... :spank: Spank d PE teacher first..second d Principal..last d Pupil.... :rotflmao: STAND @ a corner..pull ears, WRITE LINES...NO BREAK..CANNOT GO TOILET... :rotflmao: :rotflmao:[/quote]
:? Why spank the teacher and principal?? Children's behavior is ultimately parents' responsibility? No??

Agreed this teacher's behavior is more that corporate punishment. More of abusing! No police case? If an employer does that to the maid, employer will be charge to court, we are talking about a 8yr old boy here! :mad:

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:44:38 GMT

sall — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:44:38 GMT

pinky:
according to the chinese papers, she has been sacked

hopefully sent back to China.

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:34:28 GMT

pinky — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:34:28 GMT

according to the chinese papers, she has been sacked

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:33:16 GMT

annachung.05739kimeng.05739com — Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:33:16 GMT

Oppsgal:
Jennifer:
[quote=\"Atan\"]Heard of female chinese swimming coach of a primary school who has been punishing kids physically :spank: such as hitting with swim board or hitting with whistle etc., but these actions seem to be condoned by the parents :shock: .

I feel that sometimes corporal punishment is necessary. The old saying \"Spare the rod, spoil the child\" is still applicable. Sadly, many parents are overly indulgent and many young children become uncontrollable brats. In the end, some parents have to send this type of children away to Boys'/Girls' Homes. The unfortunate ones had to send their dead teens into the other world due to street fights/staring incidents.

This \"PE teacher vs problem child\" incident should serve to wake up those indulgent parents.

For those parents who do not hv the experience of being at the breaking point, it would be very hard to understand why the reaction of the PE teacher and very easy to fault the PE teacher.

Just my 2cts worth.

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:51:40 GMT

maisy — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:51:40 GMT

Jennifer:
Atan:
Heard of female chinese swimming coach of a primary school who has been punishing kids physically :spank: such as hitting with swim board or hitting with whistle etc., but these actions seem to be condoned by the parents :shock: .

I feel that sometimes corporal punishment is necessary. The old saying \"Spare the rod, spoil the child\" is still applicable. Sadly, many parents are overly indulgent and many young children become uncontrollable brats. In the end, some parents have to send this type of children away to Boys'/Girls' Homes. The unfortunate ones had to send their dead teens into the other world due to street fights/staring incidents.

This \"PE teacher vs problem child\" incident should serve to wake up those indulgent parents.

For those parents who do not hv the experience of being at the breaking point, it would be very hard to understand why the reaction of the PE teacher and very easy to fault the PE teacher.

Just my 2cts worth.

Is pulling the kid's hair & slapping the kid corporal punishment???? I don't think so!
This is plain hooligan behaviour which should NOT be condoned, indulgent parent or not!

This is different from a slap on the wrist or a cane on the buttocks (corporal punishment) for more serious offence by the school authority.

Sure - i agree with \"spare the rod, spoil the child\" but that rod should really (and ideally) be administered by the parents... and on case-by-case basis by the Principal (upon consultation with the Parents for more serious offence) but definitely not pulling of hair & slapping across the face - this is just unacceptable!

If we condone such a hooligan behaviour, can u imagine what type of society we'll be in when these kids become adults?

I shudder at that very thought!

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:10:45 GMT

sleepy — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:10:45 GMT

ksi:
Jennifer:

If parents have instilled the right values at home, there will be less disciplinary issues at schools & in the society.

When parents fail to carry out their duty, the society will hv to bear the consequences- sch bullies, gangs fights, etc.
I too think that teachers should not punish kids physically but other forms may still be acceptable. However, if parents do their duty at home to coach the children properly, no punishment is even necessary.

Atan:
I have gone through primary sch days with teachers who abused their power in physically punishment, hence I don't believe that it worked and firmly believe that such punishment would do more harm than good.
What is most important is the lesson learnt at the end of the day which may not necessarily be taught by inflicting pain!

:goodpost:

It's certainly parents' duty to guide their children in terms of moral values, showing respect, humble, etc etc and this should start when they were toddlers.

On abusive teachers, I had personal experience with such teachers too. Kanna bruises on arms & waist. Yet I was too young & helpless to stand up to such unreasonable treatment

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:15:41 GMT

STan — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:15:41 GMT

sleepy:
Oppsgal:
[quote=\"Jennifer\"]I feel that sometimes corporal punishment is necessary. The old saying \"Spare the rod, spoil the child\" is still applicable. Sadly, many parents are overly indulgent and many young children become uncontrollable brats.

For me i don't mind teachers punish my kid if got a relevant reason. But to pull hair or bang head of kids or other violence is unacceptable.

I only accept smack hands, stand a corner pull ears, do push up, copy the sentence \"I will not do this again\" 1000 times.

I believe in not sparing the rod too. However, I won't accept teachers administering any form of corporal punishment on my kids. I can accept 罚站 for my kids. That's about it.

I used to kanna corporal punishment such as getting pinched by my primary school teachers for no justifiable reason. They were simply in bad mood that day! So NO WAY, teachers should not be allowed to administer corporal punishment to kids for whatever reasons. Only parents can punish their own kids.[/quote]
If 罚站 work on this boy, non of this would have happened.

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:05:29 GMT

Atan — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 11:05:29 GMT

ksi:
Jennifer:
[quote=\"sleepy\"]Only parents can punish their own kids.

I believe in this too.

If parents have instilled the right values at home, there will be less disciplinary issues at schools & in the society.

When parents fail to carry out their duty, the society will hv to bear the consequences- sch bullies, gangs fights, etc.

I too think that teachers should not punish kids physically but other forms may still be acceptable. However, if parents do their duty at home to coach the children properly, no punishment is even necessary.[/quote]I agree totally and disagree with physical punishment by teachers or school since I do not believe in it and does not practise it on my own kid. I have gone through primary sch days with teachers who abused their power in physically punishment, hence I don't believe that it worked and firmly believe that such punishment would do more harm than good. Kids can be punished in many forms including receiving 'pink slips' (practised in NYPS) and other disciplinary actions. What is most important is the lesson learnt at the end of the day which may not necessarily be taught by inflicting pain!

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:51:48 GMT

corneyAmber — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:51:48 GMT

Jennifer:
sleepy:
Only parents can punish their own kids.

I believe in this too.

If parents have instilled the right values at home, there will be less disciplinary issues at schools & in the society.

When parents fail to carry out their duty, the society will hv to bear the consequences- sch bullies, gangs fights, etc.

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:46:27 GMT

corneyAmber — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:46:27 GMT

Oppsgal:
AC:
:idea: m gonna tell my boy kenna attack by your TEACHERS for whatever reasons....must :siam: defend onself against an attack, or attack in return. :stompfeet: l

:rotflmao: Let's all send our kids to learn self defence classes.

Sorry but I think the first lesson to teach the children is not to provoke the teacher with poor attitude or behaviour. Teachers are also human. If I have only one child and can feel like tearing my hair out on some days...I am sure the teachers have several bad hair days dealing with so many children when they test the limits. :slapshead:

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:33:00 GMT

Oppsgal — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 10:33:00 GMT

Jennifer:
Oppsgal:
But what if the kids behave better in school than at home and only afraid of teachers but not parents?

Why in the first place did the parents allow the child to behave in such a manner?

This is what I meant by \"parents fail to carry out their duty\".

Such a child is a timebomb waiting to explode anytime anywhere. When this bomb explodes, the party to take action might be some other authority, eg sch or police.

sometimes is not because parents not discipline their kids, but the kids behave differently to different people.

Is like when you talk to parents and friend use different tones...and behave differently infront of them.

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:55:25 GMT

Jennifer — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:55:25 GMT

Oppsgal:
But what if the kids behave better in school than at home and only afraid of teachers but not parents?

Why in the first place did the parents allow the child to behave in such a manner?

This is what I meant by \"parents fail to carry out their duty\".

Such a child is a timebomb waiting to explode anytime anywhere. When this bomb explodes, the party to take action might be some other authority, eg sch or police.

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:49:27 GMT

jtoh — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:49:27 GMT

Atan:
Heard of female chinese swimming coach of a primary school who has been punishing kids physically :spank: such as hitting with swim board or hitting with whistle etc., but these actions seem to be condoned by the parents :shock: .

Not surprising. I have a friend who allows her kid's coach to hit her too.

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:48:26 GMT

jtoh — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:48:26 GMT

Daddy
ksi:
is unfortunate but teachers do form a significant population in the IMH here.

真的吗? :faint:

Yes, a lot of teachers do have consultations at IMH.

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:46:08 GMT

Oppsgal — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:46:08 GMT

Jennifer:
sleepy:
Only parents can punish their own kids.

I believe in this too.

If parents have instilled the right values at home, there will be less disciplinary issues at schools & in the society.

When parents fail to carry out their duty, the society will hv to bear the consequences- sch bullies, gangs fights, etc.

But what if the kids behave better in school than at home and only afraid of teachers but not parents?

Reply to PE teacher attacks 8-year-old boy on Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:44:54 GMT

Jennifer — Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:44:54 GMT

sleepy:
Only parents can punish their own kids.

I believe in this too.

If parents have instilled the right values at home, there will be less disciplinary issues at schools & in the society.

When parents fail to carry out their duty, the society will hv to bear the consequences- sch bullies, gangs fights, etc.