<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[To migrate or not?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>We are in a dilemma! We’ve gotten Australia PR and wonder should we really go over?  If not, we’ll have to forgo our PRs.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f622.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--cry" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":cry:" alt="😢" />  Well, our kids, in lower primary and lower secondary schools are happy here, in schools that they like. Should we migrate? <br /><br /><br />Anyway, if we decide to go, should we sell our house? If sell house and if we decide to come back (maybe for short/long term, then no place to stay!). Frankly, we are just struggling with middle income and have hardly any savings.  Also, it’s easier for us to go over first then find work because of certain licensing issues. Renting out our house here means we’ll be penniless to start our life there to begin with.  Another thing to consider is our aging parents. Although we have other siblings in Singapore, I think they would also want us to be near them. <br /><br />I remember reading LOLMum’s sharing some time back in another thread about all the good stuff of staying in Singapore, esp for children. Well, I can’t deny that Singapore is safe and politically stable. Everything is so convenient! <br /><br />One thing I’m concerned is the bilingual opportunity here in Singapore. The children got to learn Mandarin. If we go, the children’s grasp of Mandarin will definitely be all gone! I’m also worried about cases of drug abuse in schools and whether our children will be influenced, esp the younger one. Also, the “ang mo” culture is so different and moral values seemed quite loose in the general sense. Being Asian, will we be living like second class citizens?<br /><br />On the other hand, I guess it’s a less materialistic world over there, also work and school may not be so stressful. Friends who migrated loved it there. A friend went over when his child was 2 years old, citing better education.  :scratchhead: <br /><br />If you are in this situation, will you go?  Pl share your thoughts/perspective as we’re really  :frustrated:  Go, don’t go, go, don’t go, go, don’t………???????  :?:</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/27395/to-migrate-or-not</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2026 12:53:21 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/27395.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Thu, 27 Oct 2011 06:05:05 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:16:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Just to share, a friend who migrated to Australia quite some years back said that she enjoys more family life now, as compared to when she was in Singapore and had to slog a 10-12 hrs workday, leaving her young children in the care of her maid. <br /><br /><br />She shared that the first few years were tough, but the government provided some help to pull through that period. Her hubby got promoted later so they’re pretty stable financially now. She went on to form her own network of friends and is currently staying in a decent house, still renting because housing prices have gone up so buying a house is expensive.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986480</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986480</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sunflower]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:16:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:10:52 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Coolkidsrock2:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">The tax part is hard to swallow. When I was schooling, I volunteered at St Vincent's de Paul. The locals pointed out to me certain individuals who chose not to work (<span style="\&quot;color:"><b><b>and have many kids</b></b></span>) so that they can collect (even more) dole. Got to admit that I am not sufficiently big-hearted to share so much of my salary.</blockquote></blockquote><br />Haha, encouraging more babies aye? …to curb population decline?  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986479</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986479</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sunflower]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:10:52 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:06:17 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>sweetiepie:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />School standards are far below than spore. Even with individual Learning program arranged by the school, the school basically do not teach just ask the kids to do matheletics and  readingeggs educational websites at home. So a lot  rely on parents to teach if the kids want to do more rather than just playing. </blockquote></blockquote>That means less stress! In Singapore, everybody complains children overloaded, too much work, too stressful, no childhood! Over there, children have lots of time to play and have all the childhood they want.   :rahrah: <br /><br />BTW, are your children in the public school? Private schools are very expensive, but their curriculum’s pretty solid, quite a holistic education I must say. I’m not familiar with Melbourne, but for your case, try to look around for a better public school, if can’t afford private schools or places in there have all been taken up.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986474</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986474</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sunflower]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 08:06:17 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Tue, 16 Apr 2013 05:32:07 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">The tax part is hard to swallow. When I was schooling, I volunteered at St Vincent’s de Paul. The locals pointed out to me certain individuals who chose not to work (and have many kids) so that they can collect (even more) dole. Got to admit that I am not sufficiently big-hearted to share so much of my salary.<br /><br /><br />No point having big house and garden there as it means more work for myself.<br /><br />One of my family member had been staying in serviced apartment to get round the maid problem. Did this when staying in New York, Sydney and London. Long term stay arrangement with hotel when in Japan.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986392</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986392</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Coolkidsrock2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 05:32:07 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:53:19 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Coolkidsrock2:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />And Blackmores supplements are cheap as well. Is it still those kind of prices mentioned?</blockquote></blockquote> Didn’t know that….not in the habit of taking supplements. <br /><blockquote><b>Coolkidsrock2:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">If stay there now, got to pay tax which is too painful. Not sure if can afford the same lifestyle as here based on net pay.</blockquote></blockquote>You’re right about the taxes. If high income earner, think it’s better to stay in Singapore. Taxes in Australia can be quite high, especially for the higher income bracket, but they have quite good rebates for families with children. <br /><br />If the lifestyle we’re talking about is having live-in maids, than forget about it, unless ultra rich. The culture over there and here is VERY different, expectations got to be adjusted if wanna stay there and be happy. Not possible to replicate what we're having here over there. There's no perfect country, it really depends on what are our priorities and what we want in life. Different strokes for different folks.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986144</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986144</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sunflower]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 18:53:19 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:59:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">I remember those days now. Too long ago. Forgotten already.<br /><br /><br />And Blackmores supplements are cheap as well. Is it still those kind of prices mentioned?<br /><br />Those were the student days …<br /><br />If stay there now, got to pay tax which is too painful. Not sure if can afford the same lifestyle as here based on net pay.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986130</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986130</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Coolkidsrock2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 15:59:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:47:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, talking about cost of living. I remembered buying a quite well known brand shampoo for A$1.99 when they were on sale. Fruits and veggies in season were pretty cheap, not to mention the slashing of prices to clear food items (esp meat) when the supermarket was going to close for the day. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f192.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--cool" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":cool:" alt="🆒" /></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986094</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986094</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sunflower]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:47:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:38:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>BeContented:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />Would you believe me if I say I kinda understand a little? <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /> <br />My aunt migrated to Australia years ago but she <span style="\&quot;color:"><b><b>comes back SG &amp; stay in my mom's house 1-2 times a year. Each time 3-6 weeks. </b></b></span>  Whenever people ask her how is Australia, she will claim 'Good.  Better than SG'.   But in private, during her chats with my mom,  we know the real picture is not as rosy as what she portrays to others..........</blockquote></blockquote>Hee, hee, is it during the cold winter and very hot summer when your aunt comes back to Singapore?  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986089</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986089</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sunflower]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:38:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:03:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>sunflower:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">I was in Australia (Perth) many years ago for a few years, married with no children at that time. I cooked but not everyday. There were places where you could find reasonably priced food in addition to the typical Fish n Chips, such as Japanese, Italian, French, Chinese, all very authentic, except Chinese food which most modified to suit the ang mo taste. These were mostly take-out places, some with limited seating capacity. I had really authentic and yummy Japanese food, ranging from A$3.50 to A$6, Italian food at about A$9, yummy chicken rice (A$5) and dim sum (A$2 – A$3 per plate) in Chinatown. Even tried French delicacy at their “market” for A$5 (I think, can’t really remember now). Restaurants would definitely cost more, but they did not have service charge and GST, but we gave tips. Come to think of it, it’s quite similar to the cost now if I eat out at restaurants in Singapore. <br /><br /><br />Went to Melbourne a few years ago for holiday. Found they sell really HUGE sushi near a train station. Bought one row, (for A$5?, can’t remember now but thought it was quite reasonable for THAT size of sushi). Was REALLY full after eating. Hee, hee, I love sushi so if I’m staying there, I can eat that (with different kinds of fillings) everyday.  :drool: <br /><br />I’m not sure whether things have changed and whether prices have gone up, but I guess if we know where to \"dig\" in the suburbs, we may be able to find places that sell “cheaper” food.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></blockquote></blockquote>Those big sushi were one of the those food I used to tabao once in a while when I was a student. Love them! Especially the breaded prawn ones and last time was cheaper at AUD2.50! The Chinese takeaway were not cheap, easily AUD$8 but my days, the exchange rate was very good unlike now <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986073</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986073</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Canvas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 14:03:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:52:14 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I was in Australia (Perth) many years ago for a few years, married with no children at that time. I cooked but not everyday. There were places where you could find reasonably priced food in addition to the typical Fish n Chips, such as Japanese, Italian, French, Chinese, all very authentic, except Chinese food which most modified to suit the ang mo taste. These were mostly take-out places, some with limited seating capacity. I had really authentic and yummy Japanese food, ranging from A$3.50 to A$6, Italian food at about A$9, yummy chicken rice (A$5) and dim sum (A$2 – A$3 per plate) in Chinatown. Even tried French delicacy at their “market” for A$5 (I think, can’t really remember now). Restaurants would definitely cost more, but they did not have service charge and GST, but we gave tips. Come to think of it, it’s quite similar to the cost now if I eat out at restaurants in Singapore. <br /><br /><br />Went to Melbourne a few years ago for holiday. Found they sell really HUGE sushi near a train station. Bought one row, (for A$5?, can’t remember now but thought it was quite reasonable for THAT size of sushi). Was REALLY full after eating. Hee, hee, I love sushi so if I’m staying there, I can eat that (with different kinds of fillings) everyday.  :drool: <br /><br />I’m not sure whether things have changed and whether prices have gone up, but I guess if we know where to \"dig\" in the suburbs, we may be able to find places that sell “cheaper” food.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986064</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986064</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sunflower]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:52:14 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:46:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>I have friends who migrated to Australia. If you are alone with young children, no hubby or any family or friends support, it can be quite tough. That’s what a friend told me. Her married friend drives all the way to visit my friend (staying in the city) quite often because her friend (staying in the suburb) feels lonely.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f937.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--shrug" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":shrug:" alt="🤷" /></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986063</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986063</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sunflower]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:46:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:34:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Both hubby and myself studied overseas - Canada and Australia respectively. And cost of living - housing (very expensive in locations which are deemed safe), private schools (the people whom I know all send their kids to private schools so I am unfamiliar with public school system), medical, paid help, childcare, etc, possible job discrimination, high tax are some of the genuine deterrents for us.<br /><br /><br />Even for some who had migrated 10-15 years back are trying to come back because things are no longer rosy there. But they are finding it hard to find a job back here too.<br /><br />Different people have different experiences in their new country so opinions may be quite varied. But there are certain factors which will make the transition or move easier and one needs to consider it in the light of one’s own situation.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986056</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986056</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Coolkidsrock2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:34:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:21:33 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">The best case scenario is to have the chance to experience long stay in a different country. Call it migration, sabbatical, long stint… it will bring open our eyes and minds to different ways of living.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986050</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986050</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Mawar]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:21:33 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:14:29 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>sweetiepie:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />Isn't this topic abt migration? u mean I cannot share things abt life migrating to Australia. U mean I cannot say what is truth? 1st of all I did not say my neighbor is ang mo. Yes there are a lot of Asian here. my whole building are Chinese mostly from China. It is the support that I do not have like childcare support, emotional support away from friends n family. Lifestyles changes, lower education std..Let's face it, these are somethings we all have to face when migrating. Unless your quality of life still stay the same in both countries. <br /><br />Abt cooking, if the cost of living is not high and foods here  are not expensive who would want to cook every day in Australia. Unless u are well off, spending that type of money is ok. But even my friend who is single and holds a decent job here are bringing food from home to office everyday.  U see a lot of working people doing that as well. This is part of the culture here. <br /><br />I will not go round telling my friends, family or relative abt how bad life is here. Only a few truth friends.will know n my husband. Because nobody knows me in this forum that is why I am willing to share the experience here. Believe or not, only if you truthly experience it, u will know. :drool:  :drool:</blockquote></blockquote>Would you believe me if I say I kinda understand a little? <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /> <br />My aunt migrated to Australia years ago but she comes back SG &amp; stay in my mom's house 1-2 times a year. Each time 3-6 weeks.   Whenever people ask her how is Australia, she will claim 'Good.  Better than SG'.   But in private, during her chats with my mom,  we know the real picture is not as rosy as what she portrays to others..........<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986042</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986042</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[BeContented]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:14:29 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:00:27 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">Just to share that my sister and her family tried living in NZ but returned after almost a year because her hubby couldn’t find a job. She missed us a lot too especially during festive seasons. I guess her case wasn’t successful because a job was not secured before going over. A stable income is very crucial to start anew. There were also friends who are happily living abroad because they have a healthy network of friends and support.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986036</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986036</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Canvas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 13:00:27 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:56:29 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">When I was a student in Australia, I cooked everyday too because raw ingredients were way cheaper than eating out. Sometimes when I had whole day classes, I even packed both lunch and dinner. Those HK instant noodles fr asian supermarkets were eaten very frequently too. Years later, I revisited Australia with my family and the amount of $ spent on food reminded me of my poor students days. As a SAHM, I cook a few dinners a week but can easily afford delivery or eating out the rest of the time. If I live abroad and still remains a SAHM, very likely I will cook 3 meals/day x 7 days/week.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986034</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986034</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Canvas]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:56:29 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:44:04 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>rains:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">If you do read my first post, I was trying to balance the negative experiences of migration with a good experience. I wasn't responding to the misery post about having to cook every day at all.<br /><br /><br />Whether cooking every meal is misery is subjective. And migration is not just about this. If I want to migrate, this is not the first thing on my mind. So there's no need to keep harping on cooking every day as being miserable. And as I've said, I did take leave last year to be a sahm. I enjoyed every minute of it. To me, that's a luxury that I can't afford to have. But I'm not complaining that I've to work.<br /><br />By 'negative feedback' in my first post, I was referring to comments about having to be treated as 2nd class citizen and no one to be friends with when your neighbors are Ang mohs. I was just offering an alternative view that it may not be true since Australia has a large community of Chinese or Asians.<br /><br />When you are considering migration, would you be stopped by the need to cook every day'? <br /><br />I wasn't responding to sweetiepie's miserable struggles with her problems. I saw that the topic was 'to migrate or not?' and not 'migration misery'. My objective was to offer a alternative view about migration ie. good experience versus the many negative views, some of which are probably hearsay.</blockquote></blockquote>Isn't this topic abt migration? u mean I cannot share things abt life migrating to Australia. U mean I cannot say what is truth? 1st of all I did not say my neighbor is ang mo. Yes there are a lot of Asian here. my whole building are Chinese mostly from China. It is the support that I do not have like childcare support, emotional support away from friends n family. Lifestyles changes, lower education std..Let's face it, these are somethings we all have to face when migrating. Unless your quality of life still stay the same in both countries. <br /><br />Abt cooking, if the cost of living is not high and foods here  are not expensive who would want to cook every day in Australia. Unless u are well off, spending that type of money is ok. But even my friend who is single and holds a decent job here are bringing food from home to office everyday.  U see a lot of working people doing that as well. This is part of the culture here. <br /><br />I will not go round telling my friends, family or relative abt how bad life is here. Only a few truth friends.will know n my husband. Because nobody knows me in this forum that is why I am willing to share the experience here. Believe or not, only if you truthly experience it, u will know. :drool:  :drool:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986029</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986029</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sweetiepie]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 12:44:04 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:19:41 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">My friend who had a good experience with migration was because there is no change in lifestyle for her. She could afford part-time cleaners and is constantly travelling, golfing, eating out. Her hubby stepped down from the corporate world, they have a real estate portfolio providing them with passive income, so it was semi-retirement for them.<br /><br /><br />Some others I know could even afford live-in help. $2k a month in their respective currencies for a 44 hour work week.<br /><br />They are very, very happy overseas - Australia, Canada, and USA.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986011</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986011</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Coolkidsrock2]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:19:41 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:15:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">It’s a pity that my intention to share a friend’s positive experience about migration has turned into something unpleasant.<br /><br /><br />I did struggle about whether I should post becos all too often, somebody is bound to pick out something from your post and comment on it in a negative light.<br /><br />I decided to post bcos I hoped that anyone who’s considering migration will not be held back by the large number of negative views. I dismissed the idea of migration bcos of similar feedback. When I asked my friend about all my misgivings about migration, which incidentally stemmed from forums, she said,"Isn’t this what the government wants us to believe?"<br /><br />There you go - why I said negative feedback could be propaganda.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986008</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986008</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[rains]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:15:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:52:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p dir="auto">If you do read my first post, I was trying to balance the negative experiences of migration with a good experience. I wasn’t responding to the misery post about having to cook every day at all.<br /><br /><br />Whether cooking every meal is misery is subjective. And migration is not just about this. If I want to migrate, this is not the first thing on my mind. So there’s no need to keep harping on cooking every day as being miserable. And as I’ve said, I did take leave last year to be a sahm. I enjoyed every minute of it. To me, that’s a luxury that I can’t afford to have. But I’m not complaining that I’ve to work.<br /><br />By ‘negative feedback’ in my first post, I was referring to comments about having to be treated as 2nd class citizen and no one to be friends with when your neighbors are Ang mohs. I was just offering an alternative view that it may not be true since Australia has a large community of Chinese or Asians.<br /><br />When you are considering migration, would you be stopped by the need to cook every day’? <br /><br />I wasn’t responding to sweetiepie’s miserable struggles with her problems. I saw that the topic was ‘to migrate or not?’ and not ‘migration misery’. My objective was to offer a alternative view about migration ie. good experience versus the many negative views, some of which are probably hearsay.</p>
]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986000</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/986000</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[rains]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:52:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:35:23 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>rains:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>sweetiepie:</b><p><br /><br />Before I saw ur latest post, I thought ur wife is so lucky having a luxury life as a sahm. So u are a ftwm. why dun u post this question to this forum? I believe many can answer u how life is as a sahm in spore. Btw, try to bring ur 2 young kids here for months w/o ur husband and no support. Handle everything all by urself include fixing all furnitures. I am not sure if u will still think life is enjoyable with tight budget to spend, having to cook Mon to sun and no job by then.<br /><br />I must say if u are single or coming here with family, that is fine but having kids with no support is really tough.  I really dislike people being so sarcastic over something we share the forum. I have said again there is no right or wrong answer for migration. it is all personal choices.</p></blockquote></blockquote>I don't understand why you are saying that I m sarcastic. I am merely sharing a friend's good experience about migration. Why so hostile? And I never said that it's good life to be without support. I hope you read my post carefully to realise that I was talking about a friend who migrated to Melbourne with her family. If yours have been miserable, that's none of my business.<br /><br />Subsequently, someone picked out my comment about having to cook every meal and I was solely talking about that. Why take it so negatively?<br /><br />I never said that it was right or wrong to migrate. I really dislike people putting words in my mouth and start accusing me of things I did not say or mean. <br /><br />And I do not have any question at all.<p></p></blockquote>If you are referring to me responding to your comment about cooking everyday.  Here's what I feel.  <br /><br />Someone overseas shared her difficulties of having to DIY everything which includes having to cook everyday.   I thot it was a fair comment and sharing.  <br />But for someone who is not doing it (or rather only did it while on leave), whose mom has been doing it for 30 years, to say what's so bad.  :roll:  Many Singaporeans are not hands on, so it's not gonna be rosy for some.  And to even suggest that such negative feedback about migration is a propaganda.....wonder who is the one being negative here.  <br /><br />As a SAHM now, I too can wonder what's so bad about working 5-6 days a week at office for 10-12 hours a day.   SAHMs slog 7 days a week &amp; with no less hours.  Everyone plays a part for their family.    Everything is a choice with its pros &amp; cons.     What's good for you may be bad for me.  Choose what suits you, what you want.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/985992</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/985992</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[BeContented]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 10:35:23 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 09:53:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>sweetiepie:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br /><br />Before I saw ur latest post, I thought ur wife is so lucky having a luxury life as a sahm. So u are a ftwm. why dun u post this question to this forum? I believe many can answer u how life is as a sahm in spore. Btw, try to bring ur 2 young kids here for months w/o ur husband and no support. Handle everything all by urself include fixing all furnitures. I am not sure if u will still think life is enjoyable with tight budget to spend, having to cook Mon to sun and no job by then.<br /><br />I must say if u are single or coming here with family, that is fine but having kids with no support is really tough.  I really dislike people being so sarcastic over something we share the forum. I have said again there is no right or wrong answer for migration. it is all personal choices.</blockquote></blockquote>I don't understand why you are saying that I m sarcastic. I am merely sharing a friend's good experience about migration. Why so hostile? And I never said that it's good life to be without support. I hope you read my post carefully to realise that I was talking about a friend who migrated to Melbourne with her family. If yours have been miserable, that's none of my business.<br /><br />Subsequently, someone picked out my comment about having to cook every meal and I was solely talking about that. Why take it so negatively?<br /><br />I never said that it was right or wrong to migrate. I really dislike people putting words in my mouth and start accusing me of things I did not say or mean. <br /><br />And I do not have any question at all.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/985978</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/985978</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[rains]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 09:53:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 08:41:06 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>BeContented:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>rains:</b><p>I can't help but sometimes wonder if negative feedback on migration is a propaganda. Read alot about negative experiences about migration but someone I know who has migrated is very happy about it. She doesn't feel like 2nd class citizen at all. In fact, she feels that she's treated way better than being a Singapore citizen.<br /><br /><br />I'd thought that most women would prefer to be a sahm to spend more time with their kids - something that's almost a luxury in Singapore. <b><b><u><u>What's so bad about having to cook every meal?</u></u> </b></b>My kids don't even get to eat homecooked meals.<br /><br />There's a huge Asian and Chinese population in Australia so my ex-colleague doesn't feel she's surrounded by Ang mohs.<br /><br />I told my kid that I am not likely to be able to migrate so she has to. She said,\"It's on my bucket list!\"</p></blockquote></blockquote> <br /> <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f613.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--sweat" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":sweat:" alt="😓" />  perhaps if ever u have the chance to continuously cook everyday for 2-3 months, you can share with us if it's bad or not.  <br />For me, it really became such a chore  :sick:  that I am only cooking 2-3 dinners a week these days.  I sure love our hawker centers &amp; foodcourts &amp; zhichar stalls.<p></p></blockquote>We've been overseas since I was a child - about 20 years now. Honestly, if you have enough money to migrate, you can probably afford to eat out at least once a week. When we were lived in Singapore we had a maid, and mum never cooked. When we left, she cooked on average six days a week. I'm sure she found it hard thinking of what to cook every day but she managed. If you eat out regularly you'll run out of things to eat too. And it's healthier to eat at home, besides.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/985952</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/985952</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Attolia]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 08:41:06 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to To migrate or not? on Mon, 15 Apr 2013 08:34:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>rains:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">I can't help but sometimes wonder if negative feedback on migration is a propaganda. Read alot about negative experiences about migration but someone I know who has migrated is very happy about it. She doesn't feel like 2nd class citizen at all. In fact, she feels that she's treated way better than being a Singapore citizen.<br /><br /><br />I'd thought that most women would prefer to be a sahm to spend more time with their kids - something that's almost a luxury in Singapore. What's so bad about having to cook every meal? My kids don't even get to eat homecooked meals.<br /><br />There's a huge Asian and Chinese population in Australia so my ex-colleague doesn't feel she's surrounded by Ang mohs.<br /><br />I told my kid that I am not likely to be able to migrate so she has to. She said,\"It's on my bucket list!\"</blockquote></blockquote>the comment I posted is for u.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/985950</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/985950</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[sweetiepie]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 08:34:39 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>