2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Thu, 22 Dec 2011 03:13:11 GMT

HCH — Thu, 22 Dec 2011 03:13:11 GMT

Check out this article if you can understand the maths... marks for A/A*/Pass is not same every year and in fact, it does not mean that much for the T-score. Very low A for all 4 subjects can turn out to be less than 200...

http://www.greatminds.edu.sg/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=89:disclose-t-score-secret&catid=59:great-minds-club&Itemid=91

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:43:57 GMT

oliveminx — Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:43:57 GMT

Darling Bear:
handytouch:
[quote=\"Darling Bear\"]Just when to the school, fill up a form (name of school, student name, index no, subject to re-check & remarks), pay $, that's it.

What is the last day to submit for recheck? and when will they inform you about the outcome of the recheck?

Last day to submit is 1st Nov. School will inform parent on 15/12/11.
If result different, we can reselect the secondary school.[/quote]Hi, it would be good if you can update on the outcome as this will be useful to future KS members contemplating a review.

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:50:15 GMT

ms_lim — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 12:50:15 GMT

lizawa:
Darling Bear:
Just when to the school, fill up a form (name of school, student name, index no, subject to re-check & remarks), pay $, that's it.

Please share with us the outcome after the recheck. May help future p6 parents in their decision to recheck the results also. And good luck !

Dear Darling Bear, have you received the outcome of the recheck?

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:41:23 GMT

Wu1999 — Mon, 12 Dec 2011 02:41:23 GMT

3As and 1B to get a score of 206 is very possible. You must see whether the As are high or low, and the same thing for the Bs. In this case, by right there would be 2 low As and the B would have been low. The other A would be in the middle otherwise it would be a high A. I have a senior, who scored 3As and 1B and got into the normal stream instead of the express stream because his As were all low, and his B likewise. The following below would be the possibilities of getting 206, including the one posted above.

(1) 1 high A, 2 low As, 1low B
(2)3 low As, one high B
(3)3 low As, one low B [ Very unlikely]

Hope this helps ( can’t blame me if it doesn’t anyway)

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Sun, 04 Dec 2011 13:17:18 GMT

ProteX — Sun, 04 Dec 2011 13:17:18 GMT

I was wondering, if you recheck and there’s a mistake in marking, then the whole mean and standard deviation will change. If so, wouldn’t the whole cohort marks change?

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:38:03 GMT

less kiasu liao — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:38:03 GMT

Hi PiggyLalala, I will be happy to share any experience I have. However, I do not know how to add a link too.

Any regret I have in raising ‘potatoes’ was not primarily due to school results alone, but a desire that they were more chinese like I am. My DS1 and DS2 now understand that being at home in CL will be a advantageous in their working life. However they still advise me that being very good in the EL is of paramount importance (they are both law students).

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:24:56 GMT

PiggyLalala — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:24:56 GMT

less kiasu liao:
Thanks, elderflowertea, for your reply.

My dd had been consistently good in CL, and topped her school in prelims in CL, so I had hoped for her to go to an SAP school so she will be more 'chinese', unlike my ACS sons, who became 'potatoes', haha. From my experience with raising 'potatoes' , I had carefully nutured her along from a young age to avoid raising another 'potato', hence the heartache.

Do you have a child/children of these ages? Sorry if I have gone out of point.
I struggled with gambling her 255 +3, to place NYGH as 1st choice, but in the end placed Cedar IP as 1st choice, in case of the need to appeal. I chose Dunman High as 2nd choice for her.

Hi less kiasu liao, can you share on how you carefully nurture your dd, to ensure that she will not turn out to be another potato? My ds1 is already a potato. I am also trying my best to ensure my ds2 will not be another potato. Maybe you could share your experience with us under the thread ' helping your children with chinese'. Sorry I do not know how to add the link here. Thank you very much.

All the best to yr DD. Hope she will get into Cedah IP. ( her first choice)

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:15:49 GMT

less kiasu liao — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 15:15:49 GMT

Thanks, elderflowertea, for your reply.

My dd had been consistently good in CL, and topped her school in prelims in CL, so I had hoped for her to go to an SAP school so she will be more ‘chinese’, unlike my ACS sons, who became ‘potatoes’, haha. From my experience with raising ‘potatoes’ , I had carefully nutured her along from a young age to avoid raising another ‘potato’, hence the heartache.

Do you have a child/children of these ages? Sorry if I have gone out of point.
I struggled with gambling her 255 +3, to place NYGH as 1st choice, but in the end placed Cedar IP as 1st choice, in case of the need to appeal. I chose Dunman High as 2nd choice for her.

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Fri, 02 Dec 2011 13:48:56 GMT

elderflowertea — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 13:48:56 GMT

less kiasu liao:
from what I can gather from my dd, there could be 2 reasons for her drop inn CL marks. 1. The CL compo topic was meaning a special day, but what she wrote could have been unacceptable because it was more of meaning an unforgetable day. 2.On the day of the CL oral, the chair for the student waiting outside the classroom was placed in such a way that the student waiting could hear the conversation inside the room. We heard that this happened in some other schools too. Thus, the oral examiner spoke very softly, and she had to ask for her to repeat the questions.

My dd is hoping to enter cedar IP with 255, while my original hope was that she could go to NYGS to further develope her language abilites. she does not feel sad about not going to NYGS, but I know she will be sad if I express disappointment with her results. Her 2 older siblings in the Uni both said that it really does not matter that much. Just continue to work hard from now on and she will be alright. Hence my reluctance to do appeal for remark.

Hi there. I think it does not matter unless there's a drastic change in her grades from A to C. When I was in the university, although we can ask for a review for the professors to check whether the marks tallied, there's no remarking allowed. My professors even told me that they haven't seen any student who managed to get their grades changed!

Your 2 older children are correct. Just continue to work hard from now on and she will be fine. All the best

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Fri, 02 Dec 2011 03:38:06 GMT

ppnqq — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 03:38:06 GMT

Didn’t know we can pay to recheck the papers because we thought the papers would have gone through several different pairs of eyes and hands so there shouldn’t be any mistakes but we really suspect my child’s Science papers should have gotten an A* instead of just A especially when it is much easier than prelim. Same goes to English but like what the rest said, language is quite subjective. But I guess it is too late to do so for te Science papers now?

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Fri, 02 Dec 2011 03:27:28 GMT

less kiasu liao — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 03:27:28 GMT

Ngbrdad, ACSI is a very good school. My 3 boys went to ACSI. In my opinion (I was from the Rafflesian family and know many Raffles boys), ACS cultivates in boys something intangible, outside of the chase of good grades. DS1 and DS2 are now law students, though they would be considered average to above average students there. We are middle class and did not really spend on tuition, and they took MRT to school. They both emphasis that CCA is very a important part of secondary school life.

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Fri, 02 Dec 2011 02:27:24 GMT

Selfan4ever.05005423 — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 02:27:24 GMT

A friend of mine got A* for Mt, A for eng and sci and B for maths. His agg is 227.

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Fri, 02 Dec 2011 02:02:13 GMT

parent.031041parent — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 02:02:13 GMT

is year T score is very low?? anyone can help to advise?

my DD got only 227 for 3A & 1A*, very difficult to choose the right sch for him at that moment & affect his self-confident upon receiving the result.

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:17:17 GMT

ngbrdad — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:17:17 GMT

less kiasu liao:
from what I can gather from my dd, there could be 2 reasons for her drop inn CL marks. 1. The CL compo topic was meaning a special day, but what she wrote could have been unacceptable because it was more of meaning an unforgetable day. 2.On the day of the CL oral, the chair for the student waiting outside the classroom was placed in such a way that the student waiting could hear the conversation inside the room. We heard that this happened in some other schools too. Thus, the oral examiner spoke very softly, and she had to ask for her to repeat the questions.

My dd is hoping to enter cedar IP with 255, while my original hope was that she could go to NYGS to further develope her language abilites. she does not feel sad about not going to NYGS, but I know she will be sad if I express disappointment with her results. Her 2 older siblings in the Uni both said that it really does not matter that much. Just continue to work hard from now on and she will be alright. Hence my reluctance to do appeal for remark.

For my boy it's the unexpected A for English.
I've communicated with his teacher and she said there were a few cases in the class with the unexpected As for English.
In her opinion there was not much point in appealing as marking of language paper is very subjective and probably nothing much positive will come out from the appeal.
My boy also did not make it to his dream school and will most probably go to ACSI which is much nearer to our home anyway.

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:03:13 GMT

N3SKiasu — Fri, 02 Dec 2011 01:03:13 GMT

Darling Bear:
handytouch:
[quote=\"Darling Bear\"]Just when to the school, fill up a form (name of school, student name, index no, subject to re-check & remarks), pay $, that's it.

What is the last day to submit for recheck? and when will they inform you about the outcome of the recheck?

Last day to submit is 1st Nov. School will inform parent on 15/12/11.
If result different, we can reselect the secondary school.[/quote]The deadline is 1st Dec, not 1st Nov.

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:36:06 GMT

less kiasu liao — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:36:06 GMT

from what I can gather from my dd, there could be 2 reasons for her drop inn CL marks. 1. The CL compo topic was meaning a special day, but what she wrote could have been unacceptable because it was more of meaning an unforgetable day. 2.On the day of the CL oral, the chair for the student waiting outside the classroom was placed in such a way that the student waiting could hear the conversation inside the room. We heard that this happened in some other schools too. Thus, the oral examiner spoke very softly, and she had to ask for her to repeat the questions.

My dd is hoping to enter cedar IP with 255, while my original hope was that she could go to NYGS to further develope her language abilites. she does not feel sad about not going to NYGS, but I know she will be sad if I express disappointment with her results. Her 2 older siblings in the Uni both said that it really does not matter that much. Just continue to work hard from now on and she will be alright. Hence my reluctance to do appeal for remark.

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:15:39 GMT

ngbrdad — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:15:39 GMT

less kiasu liao:
Hi this is my 4th kid taking PSLE, hence \"less kiasu liao\".

This year's language marks threw out surprises for quite a number of children. My dd has been consistently very good in Chinese, and it was the subject we banked on. She represented her school in Chinese compo. competition, topped her school in Chinese in the Prelims, and scored a distinction in higher Chinese in the PSLE. But her Chinese dropped to A, while the other subjects scored A*, pulling down her total marks to mid 255. These happened to the English marks for some of her friends. I was also comtemplating whether to recheck her marks, but decided to move on in the end, to spare dd any trauma.
Just want to encourage everyone to perservere in the long road ahead. Over the years, one of my kids did very well from begining to end, one had to climb mountains just to stay on the road, while another slipped into a crevise before climbing up into bright light. Just be there for them. Cheer, encourage and catch them when they fall!

Well said.
Personally I feel you have a compelling reason to ask for a review.
Now I know quite a lot are on the same boat, for both English and Chinese.

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:42:21 GMT

ms_lim — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:42:21 GMT

less kiasu liao:
Hi this is my 4th kid taking PSLE, hence \"less kiasu liao\".

This year's language marks threw out surprises for quite a number of children. My dd has been consistently very good in Chinese, and it was the subject we banked on. She represented her school in Chinese compo. competition, topped her school in Chinese in the Prelims, and scored a distinction in higher Chinese in the PSLE. But her Chinese dropped to A, while the other subjects scored A*, pulling down her total marks to mid 255. These happened to the English marks for some of her friends. I was also comtemplating whether to recheck her marks, but decided to move on in the end, to spare dd any trauma.
Just want to encourage everyone to perservere in the long road ahead. Over the years, one of my kids did very well from begining to end, one had to climb mountains just to stay on the road, while another slipped into a crevise before climbing up into bright light. Just be there for them. Cheer, encourage and catch them when they fall!

Thanks less kiasu liao for sharing your experience. I am a first time P6 mummy, thus quite inexperienced and gancheong. However, after reading so many posts on ksp, I have gained much and will be more prepared for my ds who will take psle next yr.

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:29:51 GMT

less kiasu liao — Thu, 01 Dec 2011 15:29:51 GMT

Hi this is my 4th kid taking PSLE, hence "less kiasu liao".

This year’s language marks threw out surprises for quite a number of children. My dd has been consistently very good in Chinese, and it was the subject we banked on. She represented her school in Chinese compo. competition, topped her school in Chinese in the Prelims, and scored a distinction in higher Chinese in the PSLE. But her Chinese dropped to A, while the other subjects scored A*, pulling down her total marks to mid 255. These happened to the English marks for some of her friends. I was also comtemplating whether to recheck her marks, but decided to move on in the end, to spare dd any trauma.
Just want to encourage everyone to perservere in the long road ahead. Over the years, one of my kids did very well from begining to end, one had to climb mountains just to stay on the road, while another slipped into a crevise before climbing up into bright light. Just be there for them. Cheer, encourage and catch them when they fall!

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Wed, 30 Nov 2011 10:14:20 GMT

oliveminx — Wed, 30 Nov 2011 10:14:20 GMT

ms_lim:
ngbrdad:
[quote=\"ms_lim\"]

I was contemplating to recheck my dd's MT paper. After consulting FT, she shared that based on past years experience, the outcome after recheck is there is no problem. Thus, has given up this and just pray for the best for S1 posting.
Language paper is very subjective , difficult to change anything.

Agreed. Furthermore, we don't get to see the paper!![/quote]They will never let you see the paper because then there'll be no end to these kind of requests and argument for the sake of getting more marks. Language papers are even worse.

We can't request to see the 'O' Level or 'A' Level scripts, can we? The schools don't even return the English composition papers written during their internal exams.

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:48:26 GMT

ms_lim — Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:48:26 GMT

ngbrdad:
ms_lim:

I was contemplating to recheck my dd's MT paper. After consulting FT, she shared that based on past years experience, the outcome after recheck is there is no problem. Thus, has given up this and just pray for the best for S1 posting.
Language paper is very subjective , difficult to change anything.

Agreed. Furthermore, we don't get to see the paper!!

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:40:18 GMT

ngbrdad — Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:40:18 GMT

ms_lim:

I was contemplating to recheck my dd's MT paper. After consulting FT, she shared that based on past years experience, the outcome after recheck is there is no problem. Thus, has given up this and just pray for the best for S1 posting.

Language paper is very subjective , difficult to change anything.

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:35:23 GMT

ms_lim — Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:35:23 GMT

ngbrdad:
Communicated with DS's teacher as we are not very happy with his English grade.

Seems like there are quite a few cases of expected A*s in the class who only gotten an A.
She said most likely was due to the writing section and paper this year was tricky.
And not much point to ask for a reveal as these are very subjective situation.
There are others in KS forum here with similar situation as well.

I was contemplating to recheck my dd's MT paper. After consulting FT, she shared that based on past years experience, the outcome after recheck is there is no problem. Thus, has given up this and just pray for the best for S1 posting.

Reply to 2011 PSLE Result : Appeal to MOE to review the Test Result on Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:01:12 GMT

Darling Bear — Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:01:12 GMT

handytouch:
Darling Bear:
Just when to the school, fill up a form (name of school, student name, index no, subject to re-check & remarks), pay $, that's it.

What is the last day to submit for recheck? and when will they inform you about the outcome of the recheck?

Last day to submit is 1st Nov. School will inform parent on 15/12/11.
If result different, we can reselect the secondary school.