H1N1

Reply to H1N1 on Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:32:02 GMT

FantasyLandDreams — Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:32:02 GMT

So scary...

https://mothership.sg/2019/10/h1n1-vaccination-ecmo-sgh/?fbclid=IwAR0iiuu04X3XiRWOXaKrPEoyvFGeJlljpSbD3IxipTxKcIa5Xxb8Aud3VLQ

Reply to H1N1 on Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:46:46 GMT

tankee — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 03:46:46 GMT

side effect of fever is quite normal after vaccine injection.

for me, I’ll skip the H1N1 vaccine for now for the following 2 reasons

1. Vaccine is new - yet to be truly proven in the real world. I’m concern of (in case there is) unknown side effect that may cause long term damages to vital organs.

2. H1N1 is quite mild.

Perhaps when the vaccine is more "matured" or if the H1N1 becomes more deadly, then I would consider.

Reply to H1N1 on Tue, 22 Sep 2009 02:10:19 GMT

AppleTree — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 02:10:19 GMT

Thanks Sunset Dae for the reply.

Reply to H1N1 on Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:43:41 GMT

sunset_dae — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:43:41 GMT

Its the nurse that did the injection. she told me side effects would be having a fever and child would also be having a runny nose because they are introducing the flu virus into his body.

Reply to H1N1 on Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:16:06 GMT

AppleTree — Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:16:06 GMT

Hi Sunset Dae,

Did you asked the doctor about any possible side effects? I am worried about introducing some unknown drugs to my son’s body… Especially about the H1N1 jab, as it is so new… I have heard that some child gets negative side effects of losing their concentration due to the flu jab. That’s why I’m abit hesitant. Thanks again.

Reply to H1N1 on Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:18:13 GMT

kaydenbrown — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 04:18:13 GMT

Definitely it is necessary. The virus is going to get a lot worse during the winter months.

Reply to H1N1 on Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:16:36 GMT

sunset_dae — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 02:16:36 GMT

AppleTree:
Hi, I have the exact same query too. Not sure if the vaccine is safe for kids. ...What about the normal flu jab? Is that safe for kids too. My child is now only 5yrs. Thks.

My child had his flu vaccine when he is 2 year old.
I get very upset when he always come back from the childcare centre with runny nose. It made him lose his appetite and he hasnt been sleeping well with the blocked nose..
I called up the polyclinic and was told that a vaccine is available for children at his age and i immediately made an appt and pull him for the jab! The vaccination does not prevent all flu viruses, however most of the common cold, flu and viruses seem to vanish after he had taken the jab.
Doctor vistis also has been cut down.
I will \"Chiong\" to bring him to the H1N1 vaccine once it is available as prevention is better than cure.. :lol:

Reply to H1N1 on Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:25:58 GMT

AppleTree — Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:25:58 GMT

Hi, I have the exact same query too. Not sure if the vaccine is safe for kids. …What about the normal flu jab? Is that safe for kids too. My child is now only 5yrs. Thks.

Reply to H1N1 on Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:56:40 GMT

Honey — Thu, 17 Sep 2009 21:56:40 GMT

Would you give your kids or yourself the above vaccine, especially for those who are travelling to the Northern Heimesphere?

Reply to H1N1 on Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:28:51 GMT

ZacK — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 12:28:51 GMT

westmom:
Sounds like sensible advices. For cleaning nostril, I wonder whether sea salt spray like Sterimar will do the same job? I use it on dd and also on myself occasionally before H1N1 as basic nasal hygiene ...so now must \"up\" the frequency. My mum use it when she feels her \"sinus\" is about to resurface and it seems to provide some relief.

I have a habit of blowing my nostrils when I shower but do not swab salt water on my nostrils, I guess anything salt based shd do the trick ... Also I find that whenever I use listrine, it seems to curb my throat infections

Reply to H1N1 on Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:25:40 GMT

westmom — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 04:25:40 GMT

ZacK:

3. Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don't trust salt). H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.

4. Similar to 3 above, clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water. Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.

Sounds like sensible advices. For cleaning nostril, I wonder whether sea salt spray like Sterimar will do the same job? I use it on dd and also on myself occasionally before H1N1 as basic nasal hygiene ...so now must \"up\" the frequency. My mum use it when she feels her \"sinus\" is about to resurface and it seems to provide some relief.

Reply to H1N1 on Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:17:04 GMT

ZacK — Mon, 24 Aug 2009 04:17:04 GMT

Source not verified... Received this in my work email which I thought made sense.

How to prevent H1N1 – An eMail forward is reproduced below:

Thanks to media hype about H1N1, several people who trust me have either approached or called me to advice. The hype in media about the utility of face masks and N95 respirators as a tool for general protection against H1N1 can't be deplored enough.

Yesterday, a friend who listened wanted me to write down briefly what I advised so that he could tell others in similar words. Hence this short email to friends whom I have advised recently (and others whom I haven't yet).

Please realize that this is not an official advice, especially the one about face masks or N95. Most N95 respirators are designed to filter 95% particulates of 0.3µ, while the size of H1N1 virus is about 0.1µ. Hence, dependence on N95 to protect against H1N1 is like protecting against rain with an umbrella made of mosquito net.

Tamiflu does not kill but prevents H1N1 from further proliferation till the virus limits itself in about 1-2 weeks (its natural cycle). H1N1, like other Influenza A viruses, only infects the upper respiratory tract and proliferates (only) there. The only portals of entry are the nostrils and mouth/ throat. In a global epidemic of this nature, it's almost impossible not coming into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions.

Contact with H1N1 is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.

While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1 infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps - not fully highlighted in most official communications - can be practiced (instead of focusing on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):

1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).

2. \"Hands-off-the-face\" approach. Resist all temptations to touch any part of face (unless you want to eat or bathe).

3. Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you don't trust salt). H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms. Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on an infected one. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and powerful preventative method.

4. Similar to 3 above, clean your nostrils at least once every day with warm salt water. Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but blowing the nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral population.

5. Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C (Amla and other citrus fruits). If you have to supplement with Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost absorption.

6. Drink as much of warm liquids as you can. Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any harm.

7. All these are simple ways to prevent, within means of most households, and certainly much less painful than to wait in long queues outside public hospitals.

Happy breathing!

Reply to H1N1 on Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:35:40 GMT

Busymom — Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:35:40 GMT

Just want to share my experience recently. My son (2.5 yo) had a slight runny nose and it developed into mild fever one night. The fever went off after we gave him medicine to bring down the fever, but it returned the next night. It was about 38.1 - 38.3 degrees. Didn't cough or have a sore throat (otherwise his appetite would be affected). As it was at night and during public holidays, DH brought him to KK hospital just to see whether serious or not. I was really disappointed after DH came back and told me that all < 5yo would be given Tamiflu regardless. There was no test given to ascertain if it was Influenza A. As it was late at night and it was technically my son's 2nd night with the fever, we gave him the Tamiflu. He was fine the next morning, no fever but still has slight runny nose. Throughout the day, I got increasingly uncomfortable and gave his PD a call. Decided to bring him to his PD the next day to check if he really has Influenza A in the first place (as H1N1 belongs to the group of Influenza A virus). The test took about 10 mins and it was negative. Before the test was taken, his PD also thought that his symptoms were very mild and unlikely to be H1N1. Since my son did not have Influenza A and therefore not likely to have H1N1, we stopped giving him the Tamiflu.

So after spending on the Tamiflu (which now has to be thrown away since it is in liquid form) at KK including the consultation, we had to spend another $100+ for consultation with the PD and the Influenza A test. :moneyflies: Money is probably a small matter, but imagine taking the Tamiflu for nothing!

Reply to H1N1 on Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:08:17 GMT

ChiefKiasu — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 00:08:17 GMT

Sangeetha:
Hi,

My son started with very mild cough and with very mild temperature max 38.5.But when they asked us to take tamiflu in local clinic we want to make sure whether it is H1N1 or not.So we went to hospital and they confirmed it with test and they put me as a suspected case(being with him and going to be with him).
But we parents can tackle it with good diet and lot of fluids and of course with medicines given by Dr.So parents dont get panic. if you have other kids at home then you have to be very careful in maintaining the isolation.

Thanks Sangeetha for telling us. I'm sure a lot of us would like to hear about the symptoms and effects from an actual victim. Can you tell us:
1. How did you first discover it?
2. Are the symptoms really not different from that of a flu?
3. Do you know how your son got it?
4. Did it affect the rest of your family?
5. How long did it take your child to recover?

Reply to H1N1 on Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:54:22 GMT

Sangeetha — Sat, 15 Aug 2009 23:54:22 GMT

Hi,

My son started with very mild cough and with very mild temperature max 38.5.But when they asked us to take tamiflu in local clinic we want to make sure whether it is H1N1 or not.So we went to hospital and they confirmed it with test and they put me as a suspected case(being with him and going to be with him).
But we parents can tackle it with good diet and lot of fluids and of course with medicines given by Dr.So parents dont get panic. if you have other kids at home then you have to be very careful in maintaining the isolationand cleanliness.

Reply to H1N1 on Mon, 03 Aug 2009 03:44:31 GMT

MdmKS — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 03:44:31 GMT

[quote]What I understand is, after the MC period of (3d, 7d or 10 d), and as long as you have no fever, you are allowed to go to sch.[/quote]
Is that what your school does. My school said only if you can get the same doctor to certify then can go back.

Reply to H1N1 on Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:33:22 GMT

jedamum — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:33:22 GMT

Please discuss Swine Flu http://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2884&start=0.

Reply to H1N1 on Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:13:40 GMT

john.09525316 — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:13:40 GMT

[quote]and anyone has any idea whether doctors normally certify the kids when they are well (no more flu-like symtom) to go back to school during the long 10 days mc period?[/quote]
What I understand is, after the MC period of (3d, 7d or 10 d), and as long as you have no fever, you are allowed to go to sch.

Reply to H1N1 on Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:09:02 GMT

MdmKS — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 02:09:02 GMT

john.316:
Anybody know that how many primary school kids were sick in last week?

A friend of mine in clementi told me that there were really quite a lot, at least 2 to 5 mc per class in each schoo, some of them like Pei tong and Nan Hua whole class was issuse LOA.

and anyone has any idea whether doctors normally certify the kids when they are well (no more flu-like symtom) to go back to school during the long 10 days mc period?

Reply to H1N1 on Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:17:50 GMT

john.09525316 — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 01:17:50 GMT

[Moderator's note: Topics merged.]

Anybody know that how many primary school kids were sick in last week?
A friend of mine in clementi told me that there were really quite a lot, at least 2 to 5 mc per class in each schoo, some of them like Pei tong and Nan Hua whole class was issuse LOA.

Reply to H1N1 on Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:15:36 GMT

vennetta — Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:15:36 GMT

did anyone see this company's flyers being circulated about disinfectant that is tested to be effective against the h1n1 virus?

called them and they said they can do disinfecting of the house or any premises like schools by fogging the place with the disinfectant.

anyone tried them ?

their website is http://www.ecoverve.com.sg

Reply to H1N1 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:52:04 GMT

RRMummy — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:52:04 GMT

MMM:
It's terrible... My nursery gg child had high fever since tuesday. At one stage, it went up to 40 degree.

Then the next moment, her pre-school teacher called to say there are 2 HFMD in her class and ask us to keep a watchout.

On another thot, when I was in the clinic, I felt like it's actually a riskier place to be as the chances of contracting something there is higher.

Hi MMM, hang in there!

I know exactly how it feels and how scary it can be when our kid's temperature hits above 40 degree and yes, all the pain from the dreaded HFMD..

The sponging regime I use includes sponging with lukewarm water on forehead, nape, groin, armpits... I also use suppositrin in the night to help keep the temp down at night so that she can sleep better..

I also had the same feeling when I brought my DD1 to the clinic a few weeks back.. felt much safer waiting outside then only go into the Doc's office when our number was flashed..

Reply to H1N1 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:17:24 GMT

shaynamommy — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:17:24 GMT

westmom:

A bit confused. Is test for H1NI available in HINIReady Clinics? I called one up and I was told it has to be done only in certain hospitals? Also offered in PD clinics too?

let me clarify that the test my dd did was for Influenza A. if tested positive, then need to send to hospital for H1n1 test which would take 24 hours. I'm not sure if the PPC's have the test available though.

Reply to H1N1 on Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:51:15 GMT

MMM — Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:51:15 GMT

It's terrible... My nursery gg child had high fever since tuesday. At one stage, it went up to 40 degree.

Then the next moment, her pre-school teacher called to say there are 2 HFMD in her class and ask us to keep a watchout.

Not only must we watch out for H1N1 but we must also watch out for HFMD. We brought her to the clinic the moment she has fever (even before other symptons), the gp was like are you guys worried that she has H1N1,etc...? She suggested that we watch her for another 3 days and send us off with brufen and some cough mixture (just in case).For a moment, we felt like are we overreacting? But we thot early detection of any stuff is safer.... :?

The next day when her fever shot up, we brought her to the clinic again for fear of HFMD especially after the teacher's call and again the gp was like.... don't worry it takes a few days for the fever to go off, etc....

On another thot, when I was in the clinic, I felt like it's actually a riskier place to be as the chances of contracting something there is higher.