ggb@gmail.com\" post_id=\"2122215\" time=\"1699285845\" user_id=\"202647:

So Mr Zhou is tutoring those lower-primary math geniuses. But in his personal capacity? Not under NickleBee outlets? I am so confused. And if he is not helping them get into the GEP. Then why need to teach them?

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2122209\" time=\"1699273632\" user_id=\"17023:

Parents previously shared in KSP that one needs a special referral code to get into this NickleBee GEP prep class. Also claimed that 100% of the NickleBee students got into GEP after attending their prep class?

However, I read the ST article on 5th Nov 2023 that Mr Zhou of NickleeBee said the centre does not do GEP prep class.

So who is lying now?

https://www.mycarforum.com/forums/topic/2723185-straits-times-gifted-education-programme-offers-deeper-learning-but-kids-can-still-excel-outside-of-it/

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/gifted-education-programme-a-differentiated-curriculum-but-smart-kids-can-still-excel-even-if-they-don-t-get-into-it

ggb@gmail.com\" post_id=\"2117561\" time=\"1693138357\" user_id=\"202647:

Hi, how to get referral code for NickleBee GEP preparatory class?

janil_\" post_id=\"2117269\" time=\"1692836085\" user_id=\"202620:

Parent of a gepper here.

Definitely surprised that NickleBee Tutors is not included in the list of GEP prep providers.

The principal is an ex-gepper. I was told that they have close to a 100% record of getting kids into the GEP.

Interestingly their GEP prep course is not advertised openly and interested parties must get a referral before going through an interview and selection test.

AFAIK, the NickleBee Tutors GEP prep course is conducted one-to-one by the principal. Rates are eye-popping and way out of my budget, so I signed up with Mind Stretcher instead.

Not_Kiasu\" post_id=\"2117367\" time=\"1692922057\" user_id=\"202508:

You are sounding the alarm bells for local super kiasu parents to sit up.

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2117276\" time=\"1692837772\" user_id=\"17023:

Many of these mainland PRC, even if not in GEP, in any mainstream primary schools, good ones are really good. In the first place, they are very hardworking and hungry for success.

Many of them came over with their parents who are academics or professionals, not farmers!

Besides PRC Chinese, the Indians are another force to be reckoned with. In my daughter’s batch, the top gepper for English in her school is of Indian origin and top gepper for Maths is also of Indian origin. This is exceptional considering that there were only 5 Indian geppers in her school’s GEP cohort.

iRabbit\" post_id=\"2117259\" time=\"1692804904\" user_id=\"51587:

I think you're right. On PSLE result day during my kid's time, parents were invited into the classrooms (pre-covid) and so I got to know that even the lowest score (they had 3-digit scores then) was a 259 with majority hovering at mid 26x and some at 27x.

Once in IP, seems that majority instinctively knew how to conduct research for projects due to past exposure and was able to organise themselves effectively as a group. I guess this was one big takeaway from the prg.

janil_\" post_id=\"2117275\" time=\"1692837260\" user_id=\"202620:

Not just mainland Chinese. Those from the Indian sub-continent are also pushing their kids heavily into GEP and STEM Competitions.

lee_yl\" post_id=\"2117276\" time=\"1692837772\" user_id=\"17023:

Many of these mainland PRC, even if not in GEP, in any mainstream primary schools, good ones are really good. In the first place, they are very hardworking and hungry for success.

Many of them came over with their parents who are academics or professionals, not farmers!

Besides PRC Chinese, the Indians are another force to be reckoned with. In my daughter’s batch, the top gepper for English in her school is of Indian origin and top gepper for Maths is also of Indian origin. This is exceptional considering that there were only 5 Indian geppers in her school’s GEP cohort.

janil_\" post_id=\"2117268\" time=\"1692835646\" user_id=\"202620:

This is news to me.

I personally know of a couple of geppers from my kid's school who got AL10 / AL11 for last year's PSLE. Pulled down (or rather up) by MT and English.

Had to enroll at non-IP schools in the end.

bbbay\" post_id=\"2117273\" time=\"1692836617\" user_id=\"175278:

Whether prep course really help aside, many main land chinese are seeing Spore as less competitive than in China. Alots of them can achieve more in spore than in china. If these kids have real talents , can raise standards and can contribute to spore next time, we should accept losing out study places to them. It’s not like we are going to lose out livelihood
entirely. What we can ask from them is to serve Singapore. For me personally, I will be happy if the doctor treating me or my family next time is of the highest calibre irregardless they are foreign or local
born. Or the leaders leading spore in this complex world is local or foreign born, as long as they are of the highest calibre, create jobs with higher pay for us. More of us will benefit in the end. I know one young mainland Chinese with a degree and ACCA certification obtained while in China, a local U master degree, and she still find China’s job market is too competitive for her than Spore.

bbbay\" post_id=\"2117273\" time=\"1692836617\" user_id=\"175278:

Whether prep course really help aside, many main land chinese are seeing Spore as less competitive than in China. Alots of them can achieve more in spore than in china. If these kids have real talents , can raise standards and can contribute to spore next time, we should accept losing out study places to them. It’s not like we are going to lose out livelihood
entirely. What we can ask from them is to serve Singapore. For me personally, I will be happy if the doctor treating me or my family next time is of the highest calibre irregardless they are foreign or local
born. Or the leaders leading spore in this complex world is local or foreign born, as long as they are of the highest calibre, create jobs with higher pay for us. More of us will benefit in the end. I know one young mainland Chinese with a degree and ACCA certification obtained while in China, a local U master degree, and she still find China’s job market is too competitive for her than Spore.

jialinmum\" post_id=\"2117229\" time=\"1692782427\" user_id=\"202564:

The PRC community has a completely different outlook from the KSP community.
They are willing to share information and resources, and many people are genuinely helpful, though competitive.

Certainly one of the reasons why they dominate in GEP and all the olympiads.

iRabbit\" post_id=\"2117259\" time=\"1692804904\" user_id=\"51587:

I think you're right. On PSLE result day during my kid's time, parents were invited into the classrooms (pre-covid) and so I got to know that even the lowest score (they had 3-digit scores then) was a 259 with majority hovering at mid 26x and some at 27x.

Once in IP, seems that majority instinctively knew how to conduct research for projects due to past exposure and was able to organise themselves effectively as a group. I guess this was one big takeaway from the prg.

jialinmum\" post_id=\"2117228\" time=\"1692782082\" user_id=\"202564:

The often-cited point about PSLE prep is overrated, because the vast majority of GEP kids breeze through PSLE (especially for math and science) . They are doing things that are way more advanced than the PSLE itself during the GEP curriculum, why would they need to worry about cramming late??

When they say that GEP has to cram, they really mean that they are just worried about not getting AL4D for all subjects.
Chinese is a common weakness.

mystique_j\" post_id=\"2117162\" time=\"1692725050\" user_id=\"39431:

I’ve had a K2 parent volunteer (PRC mom) asking me if I sent my kids for prep. She shared that her own group of friends are all sending.

iRabbit\" post_id=\"2117160\" time=\"1692718340\" user_id=\"51587:

With the removal of GEP DSA category some years back, I tot that this GEP prep course business should die a natural death. Instead, I read from another thread that it appears to be thriving.

Mabbe the smaller class size and beyond classroom exposure is really something desired. The flip side is that the cramming for PSLE is scheduled much later than mainstream which May unease some parents.

00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2117191\" time=\"1692760402\" user_id=\"143605:

I dont think banning is our style. See how diff countries deal with Covid and their outcome.
This debate of whether the program is even worth keeping, selection process is accurate and if prep classes are distrupting the selection process will never come to a peaceful conclusion. I try to avoid, dont like being called sour grapes...haha.. just to lighten mood hoh... Yes, give me money to put my kid in prep classes... I rather be called sour grapes...haha

One way is a reset button, a total overhaul. start from a blank canvas again. I still think it is time too, to avoid 2nd gen advantage. :siam:

iRabbit\" post_id=\"2117160\" time=\"1692718340\" user_id=\"51587:

With the removal of GEP DSA category some years back, I tot that this GEP prep course business should die a natural death. Instead, I read from another thread that it appears to be thriving.

iRabbit\" post_id=\"2117160\" time=\"1692718340\" user_id=\"51587:

With the removal of GEP DSA category some years back, I tot that this GEP prep course business should die a natural death. Instead, I read from another thread that it appears to be striving.

Mabbe the smaller class size and beyond classroom exposure is really something desired. The flip side is that the cramming for PSLE is scheduled much later than mainstream which May unease some parents.