<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title><![CDATA[Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition?]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>MP Dr Intan Azura Mokhtar said in Parliament on 21 Oct 2011  \"We need to bring our students' learning away from tuition teachers and tuition centres, that tend to regard education as a commodity, and back into our schools where teachers are there because they see education as a necessity. To them, teaching is a calling where they care and they believe they can lead and inspire our students.\"<br /><br /> <br /><a href="http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1160987/1/.html">http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/singaporelocalnews/view/1160987/1/.html</a><br /><br />Anyone knows whether there is any MOE follow-up to what Dr Intan said? <br /><br />Just came across an article \"Tuition We Don’t Have to Believe In\", while I do not agree with some points in the article, there are quite a number of valid points raised. There is also a lengthy comment by a JC1 student in response to the article, I quote some of the points here (entire article can be found in the link below):-<br /><br />The problem with education is that tuition is forcing standards upwards, requiring students to take even more tuition courses in order to compete with their peers.<br /><br />When schools find that a larger-than-expected number students are exceeding the benchmarks set, they might conclude that their benchmarks are too low, and they can afford to push their students further, and hence they might raise the difficulty of their tests until the number of students exceeding the benchmarks returns to more normal levels. This is likely due to a belief that harder tests will prepare students better for the various standardised exams they must sit for (PSLE, N’s/O’s, A’s), and that by having their students do better for these exams the school becomes more competitive and prestigious, as well as receiving awards from the government.<br /><br />Hence, in this case, an increase in the level of expenditure on tuition services may lead to a rise in the academic standards of a particular batch of students, but this rise may in turn lead to the schools raising the difficulty of their tests even further, leading to more students receiving “poor” results and hence driving parents to spend more on tuition in order to ensure their child has a shot at entering the “elite” who receive scholarships and other rewards for good academic performance, and hence a vicious cycle of expenditure and raising of standards in response to expenditure. <br /><br />Food for thought?<br /><br /><a href="http://guanyinmiao.wordpress.com/2011/10/07/tuition-we-dont-have-to-believe-in/">http://guanyinmiao.wordpress.com/2011/10/07/tuition-we-dont-have-to-believe-in/</a></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/30536/can-we-bring-our-students-learning-away-from-tuition</link><generator>RSS for Node</generator><lastBuildDate>Mon, 04 May 2026 22:16:01 GMT</lastBuildDate><atom:link href="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/30536.rss" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml"/><pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 15:59:10 GMT</pubDate><ttl>60</ttl><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 12:25:25 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Chenonceau:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>ksi:</b><p>There is always a PM facility you know.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p></blockquote></blockquote><br />I love you too.... kekekekekekekeke!!!!! Bud-sies, not I say hah... is ksi say hor....  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" /><p></p></blockquote><a href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php">http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php</a><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692299</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692299</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[buds]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 12:25:25 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 12:23:05 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>ksi:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>Chenonceau:</b><p>[quote=\"buds\"]If my girls aren't still there i don't mind.. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p></blockquote></blockquote><br />I understand.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /><p></p></blockquote>There is always a PM facility you know.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" />[/quote]:faint:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692297</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692297</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[buds]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 12:23:05 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:59:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Chenonceau:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>ksi:</b><p>[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]<br /><br />I understand.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /></p></blockquote></blockquote>There is always a PM facility you know.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p></blockquote>I love you too.... kekekekekekekeke!!!!! Bud-sies, not I say hah... is ksi say hor....  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" />[/quote]We are all here to learn right?   This is positive learning....   <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692281</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692281</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[corneyAmber]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:59:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:26:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>ksi:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>Chenonceau:</b><p>[quote=\"buds\"]If my girls aren't still there i don't mind.. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p></blockquote></blockquote><br />I understand.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /><p></p></blockquote>There is always a PM facility you know.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" />[/quote]I love you too.... kekekekekekekeke!!!!! Bud-sies, not I say hah... is ksi say hor....  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f606.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--laughing" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":laughing:" alt="😆" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692265</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692265</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chenonceau]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:26:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:25:29 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Chenonceau:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>buds:</b><p>If my girls aren't still there i don't mind.. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p></blockquote></blockquote><br />I understand.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /><p></p></blockquote>There is always a PM facility you know.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692264</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692264</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[corneyAmber]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:25:29 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:20:00 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>SlimShady:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Well said, but isn't it disgusting to see parents forgetting the joy of bringing up happy children but instead join the rat race and in doing so putting their kids under this tremendous pressure for the self satisfaction of the parents. Basically the parents want to brag about the kids and be praised on how they have done well to bringing up such intelligent kids. But are these kids street smart? Do they have the necessary EQ to outperform the others holistically? Kiasu Parents ask yourself, do you want happy children or just intelligent ones? A happy child will enjoy the learning process..............<br /><br /><br />It really saddens me to see our children these days. They do not know how to play!<br /><br /><blockquote><b>Joule:</b><p>yes, we can bring our students learning away from tuition WHEN<br /><br />1) grade inflation has stopped and is under control<br /><br />but grade inflation is but a result of parental 'kiasu-ness' (which is why you are here, no?)<br /><br />also, in an increasing competitive nation (with more FT kiddos coming in), how do your kids stand out? isn't it to study harder and hopefully become a chicken essence kiddo?<br /><br />basically, in parent's hearts, I think deep down they still have this ancient china imperial examination mindset. the best and brightest become officials and get to serve the emperor.... wonder who the emperor is going to be, this time....<br /><br />if marks were not the issue, tuition centres would go out of business.<br />so being kiasu parents, they subscribe to more tuition, more homework, more enrichment.....more grades...which means scholarship, become an elite official / civil servant and live happily ever after.....</p></blockquote></blockquote><p></p></blockquote> :goodpost:  :lovesite:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692261</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692261</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[tutormum]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 11:20:00 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:48:39 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>buds:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Far-fetched because...<br /><br /><br />This too will help ease the parents' pockets from <b><b><span style="\&quot;color:">getting too many unnecessary guides, resources, materials, assessments and what nots OR worse for parents who don't even know what to get... they get too many that end up as white elephants</span></b></b>. <br /><br />But like i said, it can be done. Yes, i AM optimistic. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":D" alt="😄" /><br /><br />Baby steps i guess..</blockquote></blockquote> :udawoman:<br /><br />Worse ... if parents ask their kids to spend hours and hours working regularly on the stuffs you listed above thinking it would work but even if the kids do well academically, at what price? Focusing too much on academics without a well-balanced life ...  :sad:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692244</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692244</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[coast]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:48:39 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:39:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>buds:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">If my girls aren't still there i don't mind.. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></blockquote></blockquote><br />I understand.  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692237</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692237</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chenonceau]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:39:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:36:20 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>If my girls aren't still there i don't mind.. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692235</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692235</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[buds]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 10:36:20 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:53:47 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>buds:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Okay...<br /><br /><br />It's this school....<a href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php">http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php</a><br /><br />Too soft arh...<br /><br /><br /><br />K, one more time...<br />It's this school... <a href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php">http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php</a><br /><br /><br /><br />:whut: Still cannot hear?<br />K, last chance...<br />It's this school....<a href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php">http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php</a><br /><br /><br /><br />:dowan: Dowan laar..<br /><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php">http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php</a> I'm mysterious buds you know. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></blockquote></blockquote><br />Ok lor... ne'er mind.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692216</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692216</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chenonceau]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:53:47 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:46:31 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Okay...<br /><br /><br />It's this school....<a href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php">http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php</a><br /><br />Too soft arh...<br /><br /><br /><br />K, one more time...<br />It's this school... <a href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php">http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php</a><br /><br /><br /><br />:whut: Still cannot hear?<br />K, last chance...<br />It's this school....<a href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php">http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php</a><br /><br /><br /><br />:dowan: Dowan laar..<br /><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php">http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php</a> I'm mysterious buds you know. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692211</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692211</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[buds]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 09:46:31 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:56:35 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Now that you are sufficiently buttered up... which school?  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692178</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692178</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chenonceau]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:56:35 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:55:02 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>buds:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Far-fetched because...<br /><br /><br />1. There are curriculum specialists within the industry but they go to tuition centers to develop sound resources and materials to prepare for the supposed PSLE standard that are absent in our local textbooks. <br /><br />2. There must be curriculum specialists within MOE as the curriculum gets updated certain years, ain't it? So instead of just updating the list of \"concepts to be covered\", delve right into churning out the \"actual\" resources for our students. <br /><br />This too will help ease the parents' pockets from getting too many unnecessary guides, resources, materials, assessments and what nots OR worse for parents who don't even know what to get... they get too many that end up as white elephants. <br /><br />3. Why far-fetched? Because we hear umpteen times of improvements to be implemented to level the playing field.. better resources for teachers.. better training.. uhhh... still waiting... sooo ... in other words, if you add one more task to the few suggested-look-intos to date... errr... when arh? :scratch head:<br /><br />But like i said, it can be done. Yes, i AM optimistic. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":D" alt="😄" /><br /><br />It takes a hands-on leader and fellow educator to lead the education dept to whip the sub-depts into shape and also to follow thru with the promises and agendas as proposed time and time again. If need be, employ more people with the expertise to run the projects to succession... and not just lip-service... for once.<br /><br />However, all that being said... my girls' teachers update us as and when and what courses, workshops or seminars they have to attend to keep up with the changes of the curriculum. In a way, internally they do have something in place which i think is doing good... for my children and their schoolmates at least. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /> While MOE doesn't declare or have the need to declare everything they do, they are doing something. :please:<br /><br />Baby steps i guess..</blockquote></blockquote>I love you.<br /><br />With all my heart and all my soul.<br /><br />I love you.<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692177</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692177</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chenonceau]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:55:02 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:54:01 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Far-fetched because...<br /><br /><br />1. There are curriculum specialists within the industry but they go to tuition centers to develop sound resources and materials to prepare for the supposed PSLE standard that are absent in our local textbooks. <br /><br />2. There must be curriculum specialists within MOE as the curriculum gets updated certain years, ain't it? So instead of just updating the list of \"concepts to be covered\", delve right into churning out the \"actual\" resources for our students. <br /><br />This too will help ease the parents' pockets from getting too many unnecessary guides, resources, materials, assessments and what nots OR worse for parents who don't even know what to get... they get too many that end up as white elephants. <br /><br />3. Why far-fetched? Because we hear umpteen times of improvements to be implemented to level the playing field.. better resources for teachers.. better training.. uhhh... still waiting... sooo ... in other words, if you add one more task to the few suggested-look-intos to date... errr... when arh? :scratch head:<br /><br />But like i said, it can be done. Yes, i AM optimistic. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":D" alt="😄" /><br /><br />It takes a hands-on leader and fellow educator to lead the education dept to whip the sub-depts into shape and also to follow thru with the promises and agendas as proposed time and time again. If need be, employ more people with the expertise to run the projects to succession... and not just lip-service... for once.<br /><br />However, all that being said... my girls' teachers update us as and when and what courses, workshops or seminars they have to attend to keep up with the changes of the curriculum. In a way, internally they do have something in place which i think is doing good... for my children and their schoolmates at least. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /> While MOE doesn't declare or have the need to declare everything they do, they are doing something. :please:<br /><br />Baby steps i guess..</p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692175</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692175</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[buds]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:54:01 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:46:43 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Chenonceau:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>coast:</b><p>[quote=\"buds\"]<br />Well yep... ideally if MOE <b><b><span style="\&quot;color:">just publishes the textbooks and resources/materials and not independent publishers</span></b></b>... good. A wee far-fetched for now but i am optimistic it can be done by employing curriculum specialists. I used to furnish ideas and worksheets for the organization i worked with and their syllabus and worksheets are pretty much auto-run now plus children are sufficiently (if not more) prepared for primary school education and i'm not referring to just P1. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><br /></p></blockquote></blockquote> :goodpost: <br /><br />Why far-fetched?  :?<p></p></blockquote>Yeah... why hah?<br /><br />And Coast, why your colour-coding so odd?[/quote]Mebbe she highlight, click on colour.. type type.. then forgot.. then highlight again..?  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" />  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692167</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692167</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[limlim]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:46:43 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:44:36 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Chenonceau:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>coast:</b><p><br /> <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f613.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--sweat" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":sweat:" alt="😓" /></p></blockquote></blockquote> :snuggles:  :hugs:  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f48b.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--kiss" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":kiss:" alt="💋" /> <br /><br />Hope you feel better now...<p></p></blockquote> :thankyou: <br /><br />Well, it's my mistake for not putting my point clearly in the first place <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" /> But my conscience is clear as I never thought that way.<br /><br />Sorry about the colour coding ... have edited that post <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f642.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--slightly_smiling_face" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":)" alt="🙂" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692164</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692164</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[coast]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:44:36 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:39:28 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Joule:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">yes, we can bring our students learning away from tuition WHEN<br /><br /><br />1) grade inflation has stopped and is under control<br /><br />but grade inflation is but a result of parental 'kiasu-ness' (which is why you are here, no?)<br /><br />also, in an increasing competitive nation (with more FT kiddos coming in), how do your kids stand out? isn't it to study harder and hopefully become a chicken essence kiddo?<br /><br />basically, in parent's hearts, I think deep down they still have this ancient china imperial examination mindset. the best and brightest become officials and get to serve the emperor.... wonder who the emperor is going to be, this time....<br /><br />if marks were not the issue, tuition centres would go out of business.<br />so being kiasu parents, they subscribe to more tuition, more homework, more enrichment.....more grades...which means scholarship, become an elite official / civil servant and live happily ever after.....</blockquote></blockquote><blockquote><b>SlimShady:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">Well said, but isn't it disgusting to see parents forgetting the joy of bringing up happy children but instead join the rat race and in doing so putting their kids under this tremendous pressure for the self satisfaction of the parents. Basically the parents want to brag about the kids and be praised on how they have done well to bringing up such intelligent kids. But are these kids street smart? Do they have the necessary EQ to outperform the others holistically? Kiasu Parents ask yourself, do you want happy children or just intelligent ones? A happy child will enjoy the learning process..............<br /><br />It really saddens me to see our children these days. They do not know how to play!</blockquote></blockquote><img src="\&quot;http://i53.tinypic.com/hwwex2.jpg\&quot;" /><img src="\&quot;&lt;a" />http://i53.tinypic.com/hwwex2.jpg\"&gt;<br /><br />ME! ME! <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f602.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--joy" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":joy:" alt="😂" /><br /><br /><span style="\&quot;font-size:"><b><b>(Psst.. verykiasu2010.. i borrow your hand hor. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f602.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--joy" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":joy:" alt="😂" />)</b></b></span><br /><br />I have playful children! Err.. i mean i have children who have time to play.<br />They are not so intelligent and not so street smart but they ARE happy..<br />Can? :please:<br /><br />And oh oh oh.. one more.. my children enjoy the learning process. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692162</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692162</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[buds]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:39:28 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:38:22 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>coast:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>buds:</b><p><br />Well yep... ideally if MOE <b><b><span style="\&quot;color:"><span style="color:#BF0000">just publishes the textbooks and resources/materials and not independent publishers</span></span></b></b>... good. A wee far-fetched for now but i am optimistic it can be done by employing curriculum specialists. I used to furnish ideas and worksheets for the organization i worked with and their syllabus and worksheets are pretty much auto-run now plus children are sufficiently (if not more) prepared for primary school education and i'm not referring to just P1. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><br /></p></blockquote></blockquote> :goodpost: <br /><br />Why far-fetched?  :?<p></p></blockquote>Yeah... why hah?<br /><br />And Coast, why your colour-coding so odd?<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692161</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692161</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chenonceau]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:38:22 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:36:58 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>buds:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />Well yep... ideally if <b><b><span style="\&quot;color:">MOE just publishes the textbooks and resources/materials and not independent publishers</span></b></b>... good. A wee far-fetched for now but i am optimistic it can be done by employing curriculum specialists. I used to furnish ideas and worksheets for the organization i worked with and their syllabus and worksheets are pretty much auto-run now plus children are sufficiently (if not more) prepared for primary school education and i'm not referring to just P1. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f609.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--wink" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":wink:" alt="😉" /><br /></blockquote></blockquote> :goodpost: <br /><br />Why far-fetched?  :?<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692159</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692159</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[coast]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:36:58 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:36:05 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>coast:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br /> <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f613.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--sweat" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":sweat:" alt="😓" /></blockquote></blockquote> :snuggles:  :hugs:  <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f48b.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--kiss" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":kiss:" alt="💋" /> <br /><br />Hope you feel better now...<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692157</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692157</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chenonceau]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:36:05 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:34:49 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>Chenonceau:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><blockquote><b>coast:</b><p><br />I guess in my ernest wish that a system could be put in place to ensure schools teach enough following limlim's suggestion (which I did say it is a good idea), I was playing too much of a devil's advocate to the loopholes (as I feel MOE will not implement unless loopholes can be somewhat addressed). </p></blockquote></blockquote>A wee misunderstanding all around. Words got in the way. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /><p></p></blockquote> <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f613.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--sweat" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":sweat:" alt="😓" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692156</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692156</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[coast]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:34:49 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:32:54 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>buds:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />Well yep... ideally if MOE just publishes the textbooks and resources/materials and not independent publishers... good.</blockquote></blockquote> :goodpost:  :goodpost:<p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692153</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692153</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chenonceau]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:32:54 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:30:57 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p>Well said, but isn't it disgusting to see parents forgetting the joy of bringing up happy children but instead join the rat race and in doing so putting their kids under this tremendous pressure for the self satisfaction of the parents. Basically the parents want to brag about the kids and be praised on how they have done well to bringing up such intelligent kids. But are these kids street smart? Do they have the necessary EQ to outperform the others holistically? Kiasu Parents ask yourself, do you want happy children or just intelligent ones? A happy child will enjoy the learning process..............<br /><br /><br />It really saddens me to see our children these days. They do not know how to play!<br /><br /></p><blockquote><b>Joule:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black">yes, we can bring our students learning away from tuition WHEN<br /><br />1) grade inflation has stopped and is under control<br /><br />but grade inflation is but a result of parental 'kiasu-ness' (which is why you are here, no?)<br /><br />also, in an increasing competitive nation (with more FT kiddos coming in), how do your kids stand out? isn't it to study harder and hopefully become a chicken essence kiddo?<br /><br />basically, in parent's hearts, I think deep down they still have this ancient china imperial examination mindset. the best and brightest become officials and get to serve the emperor.... wonder who the emperor is going to be, this time....<br /><br />if marks were not the issue, tuition centres would go out of business.<br />so being kiasu parents, they subscribe to more tuition, more homework, more enrichment.....more grades...which means scholarship, become an elite official / civil servant and live happily ever after.....</blockquote></blockquote><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692150</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692150</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[SlimShady]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:30:57 GMT</pubDate></item><item><title><![CDATA[Reply to Can we bring our students&#x27; learning away from tuition? on Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:29:45 GMT]]></title><description><![CDATA[<p></p><blockquote><b>coast:</b><blockquote style="border:1px solid black"><br />I guess in my ernest wish that a system could be put in place to ensure schools teach enough following limlim's suggestion (which I did say it is a good idea), I was playing too much of a devil's advocate to the loopholes (as I feel MOE will not implement unless loopholes can be somewhat addressed). </blockquote></blockquote>A wee misunderstanding all around. Words got in the way. <img src="https://forum.kiasuparents.com/assets/plugins/nodebb-plugin-emoji/emoji/android/1f604.png?v=f4f27f6278e" class="not-responsive emoji emoji-android emoji--smile" style="height:23px;width:auto;vertical-align:middle" title=":smile:" alt="😄" /><p></p>]]></description><link>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692148</link><guid isPermaLink="true">https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/692148</guid><dc:creator><![CDATA[Chenonceau]]></dc:creator><pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 08:29:45 GMT</pubDate></item></channel></rss>