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:mad: :mad: :mad:
Shd dis PRC MOE scholar Sun Xu be written off as a bad investment
or allow to stay to teach our young?

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AC_Power:


What he has said might be hard to swallow but it is a fact. I guess it is not called the hard truth for no reason.
If it is all facts, why need to \"stand corrected\"..?

under pressure became not fact already....? hmmmmm....

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/737437https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/737437Thu, 29 Mar 2012 05:03:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:35:20 GMT]]>

AC_Power:
limlim:

aiya.. only one person can say this kind of words.. chen act blur har.....


What he has said might be hard to swallow but it is a fact. I guess it is not called the hard truth for no reason.

However, are we really inferior than them because of our ancestry? Instead of arguing with him, I would rather prove him wrong.

At one time, people believe the sun circles around the earth, and it was believed the earth was flat. What is the truth? It is called the hard truth because he believes it to be so. Nevertheless, I do agree with your second statement. :hi5:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/737294https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/737294Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:35:20 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:23:29 GMT]]>

limlim:
aiya.. only one person can say this kind of words.. chen act blur har.....

What he has said might be hard to swallow but it is a fact. I guess it is not called the hard truth for no reason.

However, are we really inferior than them because of our ancestry? Instead of arguing with him, I would rather prove him wrong.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/737281https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/737281Thu, 29 Mar 2012 01:23:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:26:44 GMT]]>

limlim:
aiya.. only one person can say this kind of words.. chen act blur har.....

:spank: I really dunno.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736186https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736186Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:26:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:23:56 GMT]]>aiya… only one person can say this kind of words… chen act blur har…

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736183https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736183Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:23:56 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:19:26 GMT]]>

concern2:
Chenonceau:

[quote=\"concern2\"]
Guess who said this: ”怎麼說我們都不過只是福建、廣東等地目不識丁、沒有田地的農民的後裔，他們有的卻儘是留守中原的達官顯要、文人學士的後代。” - sorry, could only find the Chinese version, actual one should be in English.

Who said it?

It is a translation from the hard truth.[/quote]Ohhhh! :oops: :oops: Thanks for clarifying.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736181https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736181Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:19:26 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:15:55 GMT]]>

Chenonceau:
concern2:


Guess who said this: ”怎麼說我們都不過只是福建、廣東等地目不識丁、沒有田地的農民的後裔，他們有的卻儘是留守中原的達官顯要、文人學士的後代。” - sorry, could only find the Chinese version, actual one should be in English.

Who said it?

It is a translation from the hard truth.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736179https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736179Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:15:55 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:13:13 GMT]]>

concern2:

Guess who said this: ”怎麼說我們都不過只是福建、廣東等地目不識丁、沒有田地的農民的後裔，他們有的卻儘是留守中原的達官顯要、文人學士的後代。” - sorry, could only find the Chinese version, actual one should be in English.
Who said it?
concern2:
Kekeke. Education cannot be independent of politics.
It can be independent of politics if MOE would stop saying everything is \"parent perception\". Since feedback (through private channels and even directly) is not going through... or goes through and is brushed aside... then that gives the opposition something to bite onto.

THAT is what makes it political. If there was even a halfway understanding of how bad textbooks interfere with our kids' learning, and some effort made to acknowledge and slowly fix the problem, people can be patient. THREE years ago, a group of parents met with Curriculum Specialists to give feedback on textbooks. Till now, nothing. Not one peep.

It's the denials, the brush offs and the silences about what is obviously wrong that give the opposition mileage with the people... and the insincere assurances - \"All schools are good schools\".

Clearly, even FT like Mr Snaw believes there are good and not-so-good schools... else, why threaten to leave?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736177https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736177Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:13:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:07:18 GMT]]>

hquek:
is it tokking about the minister salary?

😆 Different people singing different tunes here. :rotflmao:

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hquek:
is it tokking about the minister salary?

Dunno leh... :scratchhead:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736173https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736173Tue, 27 Mar 2012 10:06:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:59:12 GMT]]>

Chenonceau:
concern2:

... despite the worst words coming from our grandfather about our inferior genes ( and if you believe that to be true, to prove that DNAs do change! 😆 )


Who said we have inferior genes? This is a genuine question.

Guess who said this: ”怎麼說我們都不過只是福建、廣東等地目不識丁、沒有田地的農民的後裔，他們有的卻儘是留守中原的達官顯要、文人學士的後代。” - sorry, could only find the Chinese version, actual one should be in English.

Oh, and this: “This had made them less able than the people of Hong Kong or Taiwan, whose ancestors were mainly businessman or technocrats.Singaporeans could function well only as a group, not as individuals. They would never be non-conformist or stand out above the crowd,”
Chenonceau:
Why say we have bad genes (nature) when it could just as well be a lopsided education (nurture)? This is a rhetorical question.
Kekeke. Education cannot be independent of politics.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736168https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736168Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:59:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:49:51 GMT]]>is it tokking about the minister salary?

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caroline3sg:
concern2:

[quote=\"Chenonceau\"]

At one time I read that the population target was 6+ million. Flats are smaller. Stress on public transport. Schools cannot cope with numbers. This might be a stupid question... but why do we need 6 million people here on this island that cannot expand in the way American metropolises can?

Just wondering aloud.

Has it occurred to you that with less manufacturing and production, less emphasis on labour-intensive industries, why do we need more people? Recently I read that Singapore is trying to attract non-profit organizations coming into Singapore. So...the industries we are attracting aren't really on real production, but money circulation - finance, charities, casinos, - money making more money kind of industries. And it looks like Singapore is making money out of selling land - through housing. What is happening? Surely it is not to support an aging population?!

ya, money ($4 mil) not enough.[/quote]Huh? Am I the only one who doesn't get this?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736145https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736145Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:29:27 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:27:09 GMT]]>

concern2:
Chenonceau:



At one time I read that the population target was 6+ million. Flats are smaller. Stress on public transport. Schools cannot cope with numbers. This might be a stupid question... but why do we need 6 million people here on this island that cannot expand in the way American metropolises can?

Just wondering aloud.

Has it occurred to you that with less manufacturing and production, less emphasis on labour-intensive industries, why do we need more people? Recently I read that Singapore is trying to attract non-profit organizations coming into Singapore. So...the industries we are attracting aren't really on real production, but money circulation - finance, charities, casinos, - money making more money kind of industries. And it looks like Singapore is making money out of selling land - through housing. What is happening? Surely it is not to support an aging population?!

ya, money ($4 mil) not enough.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736143https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736143Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:27:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:23:29 GMT]]>

concern2:
Chenonceau:



At one time I read that the population target was 6+ million. Flats are smaller. Stress on public transport. Schools cannot cope with numbers. This might be a stupid question... but why do we need 6 million people here on this island that cannot expand in the way American metropolises can?

Just wondering aloud.

Has it occurred to you that with less manufacturing and production, less emphasis on labour-intensive industries, why do we need more people? Recently I read that Singapore is trying to attract non-profit organizations coming into Singapore. So...the industries we are attracting aren't really on real production, but money circulation - finance, charities, casinos, - money making more money kind of industries. And it looks like Singapore is making money out of selling land - through housing. What is happening? Surely it is not to support an aging population?!

civil engineers are extinct, almost

for so many years, NUS / NTU intake for civil engrg were shrunk, like wise not many applicants for it.

it is proven to be short sighted - we are so lacking in civil engrg related people we had to grab fresh grad from other countries to come do the job due to the many construction related jobs, not just the hard labourers

we think we are far sighted to train so many IT engineers ? The PRC and Indian software engineers proven to be cheaper when the software writing are outsourced to all these countries. It is no secret that many singaporean software companies have office in Suzhou and Bangalore.....

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736138https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736138Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:23:29 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:21:17 GMT]]>

concern2:
Chenonceau:



At one time I read that the population target was 6+ million. Flats are smaller. Stress on public transport. Schools cannot cope with numbers. This might be a stupid question... but why do we need 6 million people here on this island that cannot expand in the way American metropolises can?

Just wondering aloud.

Has it occurred to you that with less manufacturing and production, less emphasis on labour-intensive industries, why do we need more people? Recently I read that Singapore is trying to attract non-profit organizations coming into Singapore. So...the industries we are attracting aren't really on real production, but money circulation - finance, charities, casinos, - money making more money kind of industries. And it looks like Singapore is making money out of selling land - through housing. What is happening? Surely it is not to support an aging population?!

Very cheem leh... I catch no ball.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736136https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736136Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:21:17 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:14:03 GMT]]>

Chenonceau:


At one time I read that the population target was 6+ million. Flats are smaller. Stress on public transport. Schools cannot cope with numbers. This might be a stupid question... but why do we need 6 million people here on this island that cannot expand in the way American metropolises can?

Just wondering aloud.
Has it occurred to you that with less manufacturing and production, less emphasis on labour-intensive industries, why do we need more people? Recently I read that Singapore is trying to attract non-profit organizations coming into Singapore. So...the industries we are attracting aren't really on real production, but money circulation - finance, charities, casinos, - money making more money kind of industries. And it looks like Singapore is making money out of selling land - through housing. What is happening? Surely it is not to support an aging population?!

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736129https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736129Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:14:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:11:44 GMT]]>

concern2:
... despite the worst words coming from our grandfather about our inferior genes ( and if you believe that to be true, to prove that DNAs do change! 😆 )

Who said we have inferior genes? This is a genuine question.

Why say we have bad genes (nature) when it could just as well be a lopsided education (nurture)? This is a rhetorical question.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736128https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736128Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:11:44 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:03:24 GMT]]>

Chenonceau:
Flats are smaller.

Isn't that conflicting despite efforts for parents to have more children? How to accommodate more children when flats are getting smaller? Bigger families have to move into older HDBs cos the older HDBs are bigger. 😆

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736122https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736122Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:03:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:00:05 GMT]]>By end of June 2011, Singapore’s population stood at 5.18 million with 3.8 million citizens and 1.4 million non-resident foreigners… While the Singapore Department of Statistics reports overall population figures for Singapore (4.48 million in 2006).


At one time I read that the population target was 6+ million. Flats are smaller. Stress on public transport. Schools cannot cope with numbers. This might be a stupid question… but why do we need 6 million people here on this island that cannot expand in the way American metropolises can?

Just wondering aloud.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736118https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736118Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:00:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:47:05 GMT]]>

verykiasu2010:
before the internet age, all the swearing, cursing, and rantings are in coffee shop and nobody cares


now with internet age, totally different effect
As more people are cramped into small, limited space, likelihood of conflict rises. Like putting too many fishes into a small aquarium, and fishes will start attacking each other. This is made worse when the people is not from homogeneous background, but from different parts of the world. Cramping all people into close proximity is simply asking for trouble. Looking around at the numerous high-rise housing emerging and one sees the tendency of conflict could only get worse. No wonder politicians are looking into zoology 😆

So basically, human beings are not very different from animals, so what's more important than to learn your way through and to survive? Let the fire burn inside us and may we channel that energy into doing something for ourself - to survive, to continue to believe in ourselves, despite the worst words coming from our grandfather about our inferior genes ( and if you believe that to be true, to prove that DNAs do change! 😆 )

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736107https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736107Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:47:05 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:02:02 GMT]]>before the internet age, all the swearing, cursing, and rantings are in coffee shop and nobody cares


now with internet age, totally different effect

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736075https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/736075Tue, 27 Mar 2012 08:02:02 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to There are more dogs than humans in Singapore on Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:54:40 GMT]]>The Nanyang Poly case is posted by a Singaporean. She has deleted the post and apologised.


Another case after the Swiss case is by Brian Tan (Director) from Fairmont Hotel. He supported the Swiss's remarks claiming Singaporeans are weak & lazy. Fairmont Hotel was alerted and posted that they do not support Brian's stand and is looking into it.


http://temasektimes.wordpress.com/2012/03/27/fairmont-hotel-to-investigate-brian-tan-cheow-engs-derogatory-comments-about-singaporeans/

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zmonster1969:
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_782120.html


Now, we have another case, this time a student from Nanyang Polytechnic.
the names look local, looks like targeting foreigners


A polytechnic student's derogatory post about Indians on social networking site Twitter has gone viral and stirred angry reactions from netizens.

In an expletive-laden post, the Nanyang Polytechnic (NYP) student known as Shimun Lai wrote on her Facebook and Twitter accounts that Indians need their own form of transport or to be in separate cabins from others.

She also likened them to dogs.

Ms Lai, believed to be a diagnostic radiography student in NYP's School of Health Sciences, has deleted both her Facebook and Twitter accounts.

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