<![CDATA[HMT in SAP schools]]>Nan Hua High is an OP Secondary school (4 years), not IP school


there is Open house on 23 November, 9 am to 12.30 pm
you may visit, ask the Teachers and Secondary students there questions u have

website news
https://nanhuahigh.moe.edu.sg/

since AL implement 2 years later in 2021, perhaps can clarify with Chinese HOD (Mdm Tan Hui Miang), she can address your concern

Nan Hua school management team
https://nanhuahigh.moe.edu.sg/our-people/school-management-committee

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/87930/hmt-in-sap-schoolsRSS for NodeWed, 06 May 2026 00:11:17 GMTMon, 04 Nov 2019 03:16:09 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Mon, 04 Nov 2019 02:59:48 GMT]]>Anyone knows if currently it’s compulsory to take HMT in Nan Hua ? Are all SAP schools the same in terms of compulsory HMT?


If my child goes into ip program, any implication if she didnt take higher chinese?

I am asking for kids in new AL system.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1944528https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1944528Mon, 04 Nov 2019 02:59:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Sun, 26 Feb 2017 09:16:49 GMT]]>

DTx:
Agree totally with you. That is my thought too. I cannot see the rationale of chinese SAP schools requiring the students to take a test to take HMT to have more barriers to promote HMT and the chinese culture.

MyPillow:

Promoting MT culture Is a SAP sch programme .
The BIG plus point of SAP sch is full 7 to 9 classes of EXPRESS students - ( as a parent point of view, i personally prefer it 🙂

I think the school wants to make sure more students can get A1/A2.
But actually if the students can pass HCL, can already get -2 in O level. Which will help them a lot.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1757155https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1757155Sun, 26 Feb 2017 09:16:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 10 Jan 2017 08:12:41 GMT]]>My DD enjoyed her studies at CCHMS thoroughly. School teachers are truly dedicated, be it chinese or malay teachers although it is a chinese school. Her lit teacher was a malay male whom she highly respected as he is kind, impart a whole lot of knowledge and made lessons enjoyable. I was also impressed by how much my DD' s chinese and Higher Chinese improved although she did not have HCL in her pri sch! Was in a dilemma choosing AHS or CCHMS as we were residing in Bedok, which is closer to AHS but finally decided to go for CCHMS instead after attending both open house. Am glad I did and went ahead to move closer to CCHMS. As for cut off pt, during my DD's enrolment year, the cut-off was only 239 and I overheard a parent at the G.O asking for withdrawal, but the admin was kind enough to ask the parent to reconsider as she pointed to the whole stack of forms at a corner under waiting list. Am glad the parent did not do so, as coincidentally, I saw her again on the first day of sch! They have a new principal since beginning of 2016 though, so hope the culture remains the same 🙂


\"O\" results gonna be released tomorrow!! Good luck to all!

P.S CCHMS refers to their main school, while CCH refers to Yishun branch.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1746260https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1746260Tue, 10 Jan 2017 08:12:41 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Wed, 21 Dec 2016 02:43:03 GMT]]>

Liangbrolovesoccer:
DTx:



\"not compulsory\" or \"not wanting to take\"? It is different. I am getting a strong impression that some schools are \"choosing\" better students to meet their KPI and not \"wasting\" time on nurturing students for bilingualism. If the schools take the students if they are keen to learn HMT, end of the day, if the student can opt out if feeling that they cannot cope, is different vs from the start, you need to take a test to \"meet the mark\" to take HMT in sec 1. Means if the kid does not do well for the school \"test\", (and it is holidays now and the test is on 26 Dec right after xmas day), no more HMT.

The kid does not have a say in the interest in HMT but the decision lies in the KPI of the school.

You are putting it too absolute! If your child is willing to and have potential for HMT, schools can still allow switch to HMT. (Just that whether your child is able to adapt to it.) btw I was also one if those who took the test in sec 2 to take HMT by will last time(I was barred from taking HMT fr lower sec coz my P5 CL tcher forced me to drop and I didt make it for the entry test in sec1). My CL teacher is the one that helped me in adapting to HMT before I took the test again.

The point here is whether is your child willing to take the additional challenge of improving his or her language. The teachers are more than willing to help students that are self-motivated to learn.

Friend, work towards solutions for a common goal, not to just going rigid over the guidelines and criticise it won't change the case! No matter what you and ur child are still stakeholders of the school ur child is enrolled in.

How many of your kind made it back to HMT? Why make it so hard if the intend is to educate? Anyway, it is my frank opinion of the school and you have yours. Each will have an impression of the decision made by the schools which we all have to respect. Time will tell, parents and students will know which school is more sincere from the first impression. Damage service recovery is tough. Cheers.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1741313https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1741313Wed, 21 Dec 2016 02:43:03 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Wed, 21 Dec 2016 01:00:00 GMT]]>

DTx:


\"not compulsory\" or \"not wanting to take\"? It is different. I am getting a strong impression that some schools are \"choosing\" better students to meet their KPI and not \"wasting\" time on nurturing students for bilingualism. If the schools take the students if they are keen to learn HMT, end of the day, if the student can opt out if feeling that they cannot cope, is different vs from the start, you need to take a test to \"meet the mark\" to take HMT in sec 1. Means if the kid does not do well for the school \"test\", (and it is holidays now and the test is on 26 Dec right after xmas day), no more HMT.

The kid does not have a say in the interest in HMT but the decision lies in the KPI of the school.
You are putting it too absolute! If your child is willing to and have potential for HMT, schools can still allow switch to HMT. (Just that whether your child is able to adapt to it.) btw I was also one if those who took the test in sec 2 to take HMT by will last time(I was barred from taking HMT fr lower sec coz my P5 CL tcher forced me to drop and I didt make it for the entry test in sec1). My CL teacher is the one that helped me in adapting to HMT before I took the test again.

The point here is whether is your child willing to take the additional challenge of improving his or her language. The teachers are more than willing to help students that are self-motivated to learn.

Friend, work towards solutions for a common goal, not to just going rigid over the guidelines and criticise it won't change the case! No matter what you and ur child are still stakeholders of the school ur child is enrolled in.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1741248https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1741248Wed, 21 Dec 2016 01:00:00 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 20 Dec 2016 08:01:33 GMT]]>

gnihs:

The following SAP schools (O Level stream), higher chinese is not compulsory for lower sec. It's depend on students' interest and results
- nan chiau, anglician high, maris stella, chij st nick.

Wonder what about nan hua?
\"not compulsory\" or \"not wanting to take\"? It is different. I am getting a strong impression that some schools are \"choosing\" better students to meet their KPI and not \"wasting\" time on nurturing students for bilingualism. If the schools take the students if they are keen to learn HMT, end of the day, if the student can opt out if feeling that they cannot cope, is different vs from the start, you need to take a test to \"meet the mark\" to take HMT in sec 1. Means if the kid does not do well for the school \"test\", (and it is holidays now and the test is on 26 Dec right after xmas day), no more HMT.

The kid does not have a say in the interest in HMT but the decision lies in the KPI of the school.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1741086https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1741086Tue, 20 Dec 2016 08:01:33 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:47:23 GMT]]>

gnihs:
DTx:

It is sad to know this but seems so where most IP and SAP schools are trying to promote bilingualism, Nan Chiau High is focusing on results and better students.


Thanks.
[quote=\"grow and glow\"]Hi Dt
If I were you, I'll also choose CCHMS.

CCHMS policy spells one thing. That is, the school is nurturing enough to give more students the chance to do HMT.

Nan Chiau policy of having a test spells another. That is, if you have no strong background, then don't do HMT because the school doesn't want to do more work in teaching you.

Nan chiau is not the only one SAP school to create barriers for doing HMT.
It's really a shame that these so called SAP schools are trying to do less work. Some neighbourhood schools are willing to give HMT too.

CCHMS really deserves our respect. They are more nurturing.

The following SAP schools (O Level stream), higher chinese is not compulsory for lower sec. It's depend on students' interest and results
- nan chiau, anglician high, maris stella, chij st nick.

Wonder what about nan hua?[/quote]IMO this is more of the difference in definition of protecting the students well-being in learning.

The retention of the policy to have an entry test in schools such as Nan Chiau, Anglican High, St Nicks is more to ensure that the students' language standard are taken care of. This is a move to ensure that those who have difficulty in coping with HMT will not have to endure the additional stress which might affect their overall performance in other subjects too. In turn, it also ensure that the study pace of those with capability to take on HMT will not be affected greatly. On a neutral point of view, its not wrong, but a more conservative approach to the matter. But in terms of the benefits of SAP, both groups of students will still have equal opportunities that they are entitled to, such as immersion in a more cultured environment and cultural appreciation etc, as SAP does not apply only on academic basis, but more on the school programmes and culture exposure.

In the case of CCHMS, they are willing to integrate the students in another approach, which is more towards a ideal situation where the students having a stronger foundation helping the weaker students. But for students that are unable to keep up with the language standards, the subject might become yet a burden to them, despite additional efforts from the school.

The difference between the 2 approach is actually more at the lower secondary level. Do still consider that switching between HMT and MT is allowed during the transition from sec 2 to sec 3. So the difference of both approach is actually very little as both are meeting the primary objective to allow immersion into the language and end up with the same outcome that the subject will eventually be taught base on the capability and needs of the student. So don't be too concerned over the entry test policy.

Hope this helps to clear the air on this. : )

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1741074https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1741074Tue, 20 Dec 2016 05:47:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:52:40 GMT]]>Nanyang is a SAP IP school. The malay should be the Malay special programme (3rd language for chinese students)

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1737024https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1737024Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:52:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:23:07 GMT]]>

gnihs:
jetsetter:

[quote=\"gnihs\"]
The following SAP schools (O Level stream), higher chinese is not compulsory for lower sec. It's depend on students' interest and results
- nan chiau, anglician high, maris stella, chij st nick.

Wonder what about nan hua?


The above SAP schools do not make HMT compulsory in lower sec? AHS, SNGS, MS? Do they have Express stream? :scratchhead:

SAP schools only have chinese as mother tongue and all express students.
Some prefer SAP schools because no NA or NT stream. And furthermore, students are more exposure to chinese culture, example conducting assembly in chinese, extra chinese culture lesson.

Some parents prefer SAP sch , not bec of HMT, they want their kids(mostly from english spoken environment, with great english result) to improve their chinese through more exposure to the language, rather them force them to study. Their children chinese is borderline ,they are already struggling to understand normal chinese passages, cant cope with HMT syllabus. Making HMT compulsory in SAP schools, will close the entry for all these students.

And it's really work , according to my friend. Her son starts to communicate in chinese and even start to swatch tv shows (from no chinese programme to every night channel 8 News)[/quote]I thought i saw a post somewhere saying NYGH offers Malay. Is it because NYGH is not a SAP but an IP school now? Or were they talking about 3rd lang?

Can SAP students take Malay as 3rd lang?

All these changes ah... :stupid:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1737010https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1737010Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:23:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:17:11 GMT]]>Once upon a time there was a Special stream. They did CL1


Express stream was for those who took CL2.

So now O level track students in SAP schools are Express students…

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1737006https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1737006Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:17:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:46:42 GMT]]>Js, yes SAP Sch offers pure Express classes only , no NA n NT streams

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1737004https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1737004Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:46:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:37:59 GMT]]>Agree totally with you. That is my thought too. I cannot see the rationale of chinese SAP schools requiring the students to take a test to take HMT to have more barriers to promote HMT and the chinese culture.

MyPillow:
Promoting MT culture Is a SAP sch programme .
The BIG plus point of SAP sch is full 7 to 9 classes of EXPRESS students - ( as a parent point of view, i personally prefer it 🙂

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1737002https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1737002Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:37:59 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:02:38 GMT]]>

jetsetter:
gnihs:


The following SAP schools (O Level stream), higher chinese is not compulsory for lower sec. It's depend on students' interest and results
- nan chiau, anglician high, maris stella, chij st nick.

Wonder what about nan hua?


The above SAP schools do not make HMT compulsory in lower sec? AHS, SNGS, MS? Do they have Express stream? :scratchhead:

SAP schools only have chinese as mother tongue and all express students.
Some prefer SAP schools because no NA or NT stream. And furthermore, students are more exposure to chinese culture, example conducting assembly in chinese, extra chinese culture lesson.

Some parents prefer SAP sch , not bec of HMT, they want their kids(mostly from english spoken environment, with great english result) to improve their chinese through more exposure to the language, rather them force them to study. Their children chinese is borderline ,they are already struggling to understand normal chinese passages, cant cope with HMT syllabus. Making HMT compulsory in SAP schools, will close the entry for all these students.

And it's really work , according to my friend. Her son starts to communicate in chinese and even start to swatch tv shows (from no chinese programme to every night channel 8 News)

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736980https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736980Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:02:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:54:52 GMT]]>

MyPillow:
pokoyoko:

[quote=\"gnihs\"]Oh right. Maris stella only implemented compulsory higher chinese this year , if not wrong.

But it's really up to individuals.
My friend's son (sec 3 this year) who is studying at maris stella, comment that luckily when he enrolled to this sch, higher chinese is not yet compulsory, otherwise he wont consider the school.

Oh that is interesting! What is their rationale behind it???? If I told my ds he needs to take higher chinese he will show me this :siao:

Promoting MT culture Is a SAP sch programme .
The BIG plus point of SAP sch is full 7 to 9 classes of EXPRESS students - ( as a parent point of view, i personally prefer it :)[/quote]MP I m confused...
Do u mean all 7 to 9 classes of SPECIAL stream students? SAP = SPECIAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMME right?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736973https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736973Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:54:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:44:18 GMT]]>

gnihs:

The following SAP schools (O Level stream), higher chinese is not compulsory for lower sec. It's depend on students' interest and results
- nan chiau, anglician high, maris stella, chij st nick.

Wonder what about nan hua?

The above SAP schools do not make HMT compulsory in lower sec? AHS, SNGS, MS? Do they have Express stream? :scratchhead:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736968https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736968Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:44:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:45:12 GMT]]>

pokoyoko:
gnihs:

Oh right. Maris stella only implemented compulsory higher chinese this year , if not wrong.

But it's really up to individuals.
My friend's son (sec 3 this year) who is studying at maris stella, comment that luckily when he enrolled to this sch, higher chinese is not yet compulsory, otherwise he wont consider the school.

Oh that is interesting! What is their rationale behind it???? If I told my ds he needs to take higher chinese he will show me this :siao:

Promoting MT culture Is a SAP sch programme .
The BIG plus point of SAP sch is full 7 to 9 classes of EXPRESS students - ( as a parent point of view, i personally prefer it 🙂

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736935https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736935Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:45:12 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 06:49:24 GMT]]>

gnihs:
Oh right. Maris stella only implemented compulsory higher chinese this year , if not wrong.

But it's really up to individuals.
My friend's son (sec 3 this year) who is studying at maris stella, comment that luckily when he enrolled to this sch, higher chinese is not yet compulsory, otherwise he wont consider the school.
Oh that is interesting! What is their rationale behind it???? If I told my ds he needs to take higher chinese he will show me this :siao:

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736910https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736910Tue, 29 Nov 2016 06:49:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 06:35:45 GMT]]>Oh right. Maris stella only implemented compulsory higher chinese this year , if not wrong.

But it’s really up to individuals.
My friend’s son (sec 3 this year) who is studying at maris stella, comment that luckily when he enrolled to this sch, higher chinese is not yet compulsory, otherwise he wont consider the school.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736902https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736902Tue, 29 Nov 2016 06:35:45 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 05:46:46 GMT]]>

gnihs:
DTx:

It is sad to know this but seems so where most IP and SAP schools are trying to promote bilingualism, Nan Chiau High is focusing on results and better students.


Thanks.
[quote=\"grow and glow\"]Hi Dt
If I were you, I'll also choose CCHMS.

CCHMS policy spells one thing. That is, the school is nurturing enough to give more students the chance to do HMT.

Nan Chiau policy of having a test spells another. That is, if you have no strong background, then don't do HMT because the school doesn't want to do more work in teaching you.

Nan chiau is not the only one SAP school to create barriers for doing HMT.
It's really a shame that these so called SAP schools are trying to do less work. Some neighbourhood schools are willing to give HMT too.

CCHMS really deserves our respect. They are more nurturing.

The following SAP schools (O Level stream), higher chinese is not compulsory for lower sec. It's depend on students' interest and results
- nan chiau, anglician high, maris stella, chij st nick.

Wonder what about nan hua?[/quote][/quote]

nanhua similar as nc, heard anglican also quite strict in hmt requrirements , the only sch who encouraged hmt to all students seem to be cchm and MSH , but not compulsory

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736872https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736872Tue, 29 Nov 2016 05:46:46 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 05:03:15 GMT]]>By the virtue of fact, Nan Hua is a Chinese school claiming to promote bilingualism in the open house speech with all students taking mandarin during PSLE.


I will not have the same thinking for English schools like Maris, CHIJ St Nic, HMT is not mandatory as there is a good mixture of good non Chinese students.

gnihs:
DTx:

It is sad to know this but seems so where most IP and SAP schools are trying to promote bilingualism, Nan Chiau High is focusing on results and better students.

Thanks.
[quote=\"grow and glow\"]Hi Dt
If I were you, I'll also choose CCHMS.

CCHMS policy spells one thing. That is, the school is nurturing enough to give more students the chance to do HMT.

Nan Chiau policy of having a test spells another. That is, if you have no strong background, then don't do HMT because the school doesn't want to do more work in teaching you.

Nan chiau is not the only one SAP school to create barriers for doing HMT.
It's really a shame that these so called SAP schools are trying to do less work. Some neighbourhood schools are willing to give HMT too.

CCHMS really deserves our respect. They are more nurturing.

The following SAP schools (O Level stream), higher chinese is not compulsory for lower sec. It's depend on students' interest and results
- nan chiau, anglician high, maris stella, chij st nick.

Wonder what about nan hua?[/quote]

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736853https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736853Tue, 29 Nov 2016 05:03:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 04:14:38 GMT]]>

DTx:
It is sad to know this but seems so where most IP and SAP schools are trying to promote bilingualism, Nan Chiau High is focusing on results and better students.


Thanks.
grow and glow:

Hi Dt
If I were you, I'll also choose CCHMS.

CCHMS policy spells one thing. That is, the school is nurturing enough to give more students the chance to do HMT.

Nan Chiau policy of having a test spells another. That is, if you have no strong background, then don't do HMT because the school doesn't want to do more work in teaching you.

Nan chiau is not the only one SAP school to create barriers for doing HMT.
It's really a shame that these so called SAP schools are trying to do less work. Some neighbourhood schools are willing to give HMT too.

CCHMS really deserves our respect. They are more nurturing.

The following SAP schools (O Level stream), higher chinese is not compulsory for lower sec. It's depend on students' interest and results
- nan chiau, anglician high, maris stella, chij st nick.

Wonder what about nan hua?

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736816https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736816Tue, 29 Nov 2016 04:14:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 00:48:36 GMT]]>It is sad to know this but seems so where most IP and SAP schools are trying to promote bilingualism, Nan Chiau High is focusing on results and better students.


Thanks.

grow and glow:
Hi Dt
If I were you, I'll also choose CCHMS.

CCHMS policy spells one thing. That is, the school is nurturing enough to give more students the chance to do HMT.

Nan Chiau policy of having a test spells another. That is, if you have no strong background, then don't do HMT because the school doesn't want to do more work in teaching you.

Nan chiau is not the only one SAP school to create barriers for doing HMT.
It's really a shame that these so called SAP schools are trying to do less work. Some neighbourhood schools are willing to give HMT too.

CCHMS really deserves our respect. They are more nurturing.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736712https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736712Tue, 29 Nov 2016 00:48:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to HMT in SAP schools on Tue, 29 Nov 2016 00:48:30 GMT]]>It is sad to know this but seems so where most IP and SAP schools are trying to promote bilingualism, Nan Chiau High is focusing on results and better students.


Thanks.

grow and glow:
Hi Dt
If I were you, I'll also choose CCHMS.

CCHMS policy spells one thing. That is, the school is nurturing enough to give more students the chance to do HMT.

Nan Chiau policy of having a test spells another. That is, if you have no strong background, then don't do HMT because the school doesn't want to do more work in teaching you.

Nan chiau is not the only one SAP school to create barriers for doing HMT.
It's really a shame that these so called SAP schools are trying to do less work. Some neighbourhood schools are willing to give HMT too.

CCHMS really deserves our respect. They are more nurturing.

]]>https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736710https://forum.kiasuparents.com/post/1736710Tue, 29 Nov 2016 00:48:30 GMT