Febrile Fits
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Thank you thank you all for sharing !
My feet went wobbly each time i recall those incidents (had a couple) and every single fever alarm or call from teachers (yes I was kiasu enough to tell them to call me whenever the temp is above 37 deg) will make me jump and drop whatever I was doing and rushed to pick him up/home. Felt guilty and helpless too when sometimes you thought it’s due to your fault that perhaps ibufern was administered not fast enough.
I dont think others will be able to understand until you have seen your own child in that state before … -
Yes and I think I read somewhere that it’s more likely to affect boys rather than girls.
My 6 yr old (who had febrile fits last time) had fever yesterday and it went up to 40 degree. Never so high and we were at the GP clinic. So he was given nerofen immediately even though he just had his progesic 1/2 hr ago. His face tend to turn red and his eyes so not lively and also he complain of headache everytime the fever is high. Probably becoz he is tired, he was dozing off too.
For a moment, having talk abt his condition in this post saying that he seems to outgrow it. I was worried that he will suddenly get fits. Fortunately he is better today (back to normal). As he is supposed to be in BC camp this week, he was enjoying it tremendously and also the cost is not cheap but too bad we had to let him skip class today so as to be socially responsible. -
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Seeing your child in a first febrile fit is a very terrifying experience. Their body froze, eyeball out of alignment, etc...
My daughter had one when her temperature breached 40 degrees, when she was 2yo. It is about the most horrifying time of my life, second only to the time when I was told my mother probably won't survive her stroke. -
Febrile Fits only happen when there is high temp? If no fever and still have fits, what will tat be? Will children outgrow from it and is that deem to be serious? :roll:
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Hi luvmum, I dont know. Mine so far happens when accompanied with fever.
Here’s the extract from KK brochure on febrile fits - not sure if it helps.
- Simple febrile fits commonly occur in children between 6 mths to 6 years old. There may be a history of such fits in the family.
- Fits usually occur with high fevers, especially when the temp reachers 38.5 deg or more.
- In a fit, the child’s arms and legs will jerk involvuntarily; up-rolling of the eyes and teeth clenching are common sighs. The child may also pass motion and/or urine during a fit.
- Fits usually last a few minutes, with some as long as 15 minutes.
- A child will commonly feel sleepy after a fit.
- There is a 30 per cent chance that the child will have another fit, especially if the body temperature maintains at 38.5 deg and above.
- The actual cause of febrile fits has not been clearly established but they may be a background family history associated with it.
- Simple febrie fits do not cause brain damage nor do they cause delay in a child’s development. -
When my son was about 1 plus, he had diarrohea and vomitting (without fever). Then one early morning after his diarrohea, suddenly his arms and legs jerked involuntarily , clenching his teeth. The next thing I knew was that his lips turned black and he became motionless. He was like “gone" (forgot to check his heartbeat). We tried to wake him but he would not response.
We called an ambulance, they also could not wake him. I was holding him throughout the ride. The moment we reached KKH, he was awake and smiling. Warded for observation for 1 night, diagnosis was provoked seizure. -
chancing upon this thread brings back nightmares...
my girl had it once just a week before she turned 1. it was scary.
her face was blue, her lips black, she was limp and she couldn't respond to me at all.
i thought i had lost her and i was hysterical.
thankfully this was an isolated incident and it never occurred again.
doc told me that once the child hits 3 years old, chance of getting the fits greatly diminishes. apparently, i also had it when i was a kid.. i only found out very much later from my mum. -
My son also had febrile fits when he was 21 mths and provoked fits when he turned 24 mths. Both times, my hb and i were scared to death when we saw it happening. AFter he was discharged the 2nd time, he was supposed to go for eeg (to monitor the brain waves) but didnt cos' PD neurosurgeon told us to monitor and if it happened again (touch wood) then she will send him to go for it. However, she did mentioned that we must monitor my son closely esp when he's standing from a tall place or near a body of water.
I dun know how true it is but we brought him to see a TCM doctor after the 2nd episode and hopefully, he's fine now.
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Dear Mums and Dads,
Please take notes about Febrile Seizures(Fits),
Seizures are caused by abnormal electrical discharges in the brain. Symptoms may vary depending on the part of the brain that is involved, but seizures often cause unusual sensations, uncontrollable muscle spasms, and loss of consciousness.
Some seizures may be the result of a medical problem. Low blood sugar, infection, a head injury, accidental poisoning,lack of sleep or drug overdose can cause a seizure. A seizure may also be due to a brain tumor or other health problem affecting the brain. In addition, anything that results in a sudden lack of oxygen to the brain can cause a seizure. In some cases, the cause of the seizure is never discovered.
When seizures recur, it may indicate the chronic condition known as epilepsy.
Febrile seizures, relatively common in kids younger than 5 years old, can occur when a child develops a high fever, usually with the temperature rising rapidly to 102° Fahrenheit (38.9° Celsius) or more. While terrifying to parents, these seizures are usually brief and rarely cause any problems, unless the fever is associated with a serious infection, such as meningitis. A child who has a febrile seizure is not more likely to develop epilepsy.
If Your Child Has a Seizure
A child who's having a seizure should be placed on the ground or floor in a safe area. Remove any nearby objects. Loosen any clothing around the head or neck. Do not try to wedge the child's mouth open or place an object between the teeth, and do not attempt to restrain movements. (As this will causes injury to your child as their musles are contracting involuntarily). Once the seizure seems to have ended, roll your child onto his or her side.
Call Ambulance immediately if your child:
- has difficulty breathing
- turns bluish in color
- has sustained a head injury
- seems ill
- has a known heart condition
- has never had a seizure before
- might have ingested any poisons, medications, etc.
- If your child has previously had seizures, call emergency services if the seizure lasts more than 5 minutes, or if the seizure is different or unusual.
If your child is breathing normally and the seizure lasts just a few minutes, you can wait until it has subsided, then call your doctor.
Following the seizure, your child will probably fall into a deep sleep (this is called the postictal period). This is normal, and you should not try to wake your child. Do not attempt to give food or drink until your child is awake and alert.
For a child who has febrile seizures, the doctor may suggest that you give fever-reducing medicine (such as ibuprofen, neurofen or acetaminophen) to control the fever and prevent seizures from recurring. Your doctor may also recommend sponging your child with normal roomtemperature water to help cool him or her down. Controlling of temperature is very important for febrile fits.
Please take good care of your child. God Bless! -
i totally agree with ngchris that NO one can understand until you see your own kid at this state.
My son has febrile fits occasionlly only when he had fever.
1st very fits at 15mths. He cried right after the fits and we rushed him to KK hospital and he was hospitalised.
2nd relapse 20mths which happened once at home and had loose stools after the fits and one fits during the stay in the hospital. .When we rushed to the hospital, he was NOT crying and in deep sleep and we thought he was DEAD as he showed no response.
The 3rd time was 4 yrs old just few days right after his birthday. I was ALONE with him at home. His eyes was rolling up and showed NO jerk. Right arm was carrying him while the other arm opened the door. His body was so "jelly" that he almost FALL back as he was unconscious while i tried to open the door from my other arm. I can’t carried him with one arm as he was 12kg. I was SO panicked that i CANT open my door and started screaming! My neighbour asked me what happened that i told him that my son got fits. He vomitted his food on my clothes.
Worst of all, not all the lifts are accessible at my floor area and i had to go down the stairs and carried a bag and one of the lifts were under upgrading! Waiting for the lift seemed like ages.
I regretted that i didn’t take his words seriously as he told me he was going to have fever just few days before. Children has their "INSTINCT". Parents pls DO NOT IGNORE LIKE ME!
It seems like going to TCM helps.
Parents, take good care of your kid
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