Raymond's Math Studio - Discussion
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My child attended the science last year for just one term … I find it expensive and teacher changed schedule … And my child feedback was negative so I withdrew.
Elder child there too for o level … But not effective as he comment waste time so withdrew too. Expensive fee and replacement got to rush all the way to Katong -
MAEYTAN:
Just to say, Raymond Math is not the only one practising these policies. Some Centres do the same, eg Mindstretcher. MS collects deposit for every subject you take and no make up classes for those that falls on public holidays. On the other hand, no extra charges for months when you get 5 lessons, instead of 4.Raymond Studios getting greedy. They changed their policies.
First they charge 1 month's deposit for each subject. if your child attends maths , English and science you will be paying 3 months deposit total.
And they just change their public holidays policy. they are not going to replace the missed classes and even make you pay the full month's fees without refund and is not going to prorate the month's fees. Why is there unfair treatment ? those students attending classes that are not affected by public holidays will have more lessons than those with lessons that fall on public holidays. -
nicnac:
Agree that there are centres collecting deposits. but most don't and even if they take deposits, its sometimes just a basic $100 per subject. not the whole month's fees. Just imagine if a child signs upfor 3 or 4 subjects then its like estimate of $1000 per student, with that many classes and students Raymond studios have, that's a lot of money. And the deposit is not refundable until the student withdraws or graduate. just imagine if I start from sec 1 till sec 4 then its 4 years . They can just put the money in the bank and earn fixed deposit interest...Wonder if IRAS knows that... they should audit.
Just to say, Raymond Math is not the only one practising these policies. Some Centres do the same, eg Mindstretcher. MS collects deposit for every subject you take and no make up classes for those that falls on public holidays. On the other hand, no extra charges for months when you get 5 lessons, instead of 4.MAEYTAN:
Raymond Studios getting greedy. They changed their policies.
First they charge 1 month's deposit for each subject. if your child attends maths , English and science you will be paying 3 months deposit total.
And they just change their public holidays policy. they are not going to replace the missed classes and even make you pay the full month's fees without refund and is not going to prorate the month's fees. Why is there unfair treatment ? those students attending classes that are not affected by public holidays will have more lessons than those with lessons that fall on public holidays.
For the public holidays not getting replacement. its a unfair practice. no matter which centre. We are paying for tuition per lesson . 4 lessons for a month's fees. Why the discrimination ? the other students not affected by the public holidays will have at least 5 lessons more than those affected. its already BAD enough that my child will miss 5 lessons but I have to PAY for it !!!! that is nonsense. :mad: -
I dun like the payment scheme … And sometimes teacher change date so we lost count and we have to pay for material …
Sometimes do not charge material fee.
rMSS with high tuition fee still charge material fee
My child try one term she say no good so we remain at current center which is cheaper and we score A too -
Hello everyone I am a former RMSS student and I completed my o levels this year (2017).
I enrolled with RMSS for their A math lessons. To give you a more comprehensive and non partisan review, I shall list down what I think are the pros and the cons of using their services.
Pros:
1: plenteous materials, albeit paid for by parents
2: Depending on the class’ atmosphere, it can be rather cheery and fun. However, there has been innumerable instances of unpleasant encounters as well. It also can forge a rather family-like atmosphere, depending on the class.
3. Students often obtain sufficient practice (the negative points, however, will be mentioned later)
Cons:
1: The teachers’ teaching methods are rather shoddy and shallow, at best, mediocre. Perhaps due to their ginormous student body, it has become impossible for Teachers to guide students step by step, although I would prefer to see more effort on the Teachers’ ends as well. Despite sufficient practice, if a student’s concept is still weak, I don’t see how he or she can improve.
2: It can be a huge time waster when it comes to revision classes as I would often perceive it like Nazi concentration camps, whereby huge amounts of students congregate in a classroom for hours, doing test papers. Sufficient practice sounds great doesn’t it? Well not when explanations are often sub par and overall, thereby such sessions are often inefficient for many.
3: Condescension from the administrative staff. You’ll get harangued for submitting your fees late, snarled at too (in a centre with rather opulent upholstery and embellishments, also not forgetting the sometimes kitschy Hermes, or Bottega Veneta, whatever luxury bags flamboyantly sitting on the side of the counter) and it’s pretty ludicrous and vexing to be snarled at especially when we’re the customers although I must say, their attitude has improved drastically and I have not met with any unpleasant yellings for quite some time already.
4. Devoid of personal liberty. How’s that so? Well they have given complementary tee shirts, or the RMSS uniform as they call it, forcing students to wear them during a certain weekend of a month when they have to attend classes. It is pretty crystalline that it’s a desperate and shrewd attempt at advertising for their centre. That’s not my main point. The problem is students get reprimanded for not wearing the uniform. I have always abided by the rules so I’m not some vitriolic and bitter student here, in fact I am appreciative of their role in assisting me to attain A1s in my school exams. But my issue with them is their mannerisms in handling such cases, it rubs people off the wrong way.
5. Quality of materials is unimpressive. I’m not asking for immaculate and intricate, beauteous books but I am asking for a higher quality of materials. Both print quality and form factor wise.
6. The lack of understanding of the students’ psyche. Punishments for forgetting formulas etc or punishments of not being able to complete questions ( due to forgetting certain things) are often imposed, leaving students unwilling to ask, thereby stifling them and limiting their learning potential and stunting their progress. They have yet to seen this point (I feel), and even if they do, the damage has been caused.
7. Despite being insistent on the stance that they care more about their students, I still feel that their methods are immensely inefficacious for the majority, and it isn’t difficult to notice that they’re more of a commercial-orientated business.
8. Large class sizes
Yes you might rebutt me with their roll of achievements, but please also take into account the size of their student body, now I don’t think the amount of distinctions are that splendiferous and spectacular right.
All in all, I think that it is a mediocre tuition centre, irrefutably still improving on it’s ways, and I believe it will become better as time passes by but if one is a weak student, I do not think that it’s the most apposite choice. For stronger or average students, I would say it is worth a try.
Perhaps other tuition centres aren’t anymore spectacular, I don’t know but the aforementioned points are what I can encapsulate from my time in RMSS. -
i’m thinking to enroll my daughter but after seeing so many neg (-) feedback. Have to reconsider now.
any review for Punggol new center? -
Hi,
For those who have enrolled your kids in the centre before, can I find out if the class size is really big? I was told it can be max of 20 in a class and in fact up to 28 in bishan branch. My concern is if it is supposed to be a tuition class, can the child learn in such a big class? Thanks! -
Hopper0311:
28 for regular class or only for the revision classes? I know the revision classes are combined classes.Hi,
For those who have enrolled your kids in the centre before, can I find out if the class size is really big? I was told it can be max of 20 in a class and in fact up to 28 in bishan branch. My concern is if it is supposed to be a tuition class, can the child learn in such a big class? Thanks! -
Is their Concept/method good? easy to understand?
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skyblue_77:
Is their Concept/method good? easy to understand?
My friend's son was in the bishan branch.She said the concept is good but the class is too big. Now he having a private tutor
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