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I wonder how they classify if a case is linked or unlinked, and if linked, which cluster to link to. Yesterday case 63664 and case 63665 are household contacts, of which case 63665 has been quarantined earlier due to close contact with a suspected case that later tested negative. Combining information from of them, they visited Westgate on 8May, 10May and 11May. Both case are from Singapore Polytechnic. Why allocated them to the JEM/Westgate cluster instead of the Singapore Polytechnic cluster. The 2 cases have tested for covid-19 on 19 May and it is likely negative then and their result only turn positive on 23 May. How did they conclusively say this is definitely a JEM/Westgate cluster instead of the Singapore Polytechnic cluster, or is it a matter of confirmation bias.
Given that these 2 cases were found just 2 days ago, unlikely that phylogenetic study can be done in double quick time to link them definitively to case 62933. -
starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2025101\" time=\"1621894246\" user_id=\"14025:
https://ppvbc.github.io/
Is there a website where one can check on the current clusters and their number of infected?
The news said the JEM/Westgate is the 2nd largest cluster after Changi Airport ???
Not sure how accurate is this, but I have using it.
Stay safe everyone! -
WE2012\" post_id=\"2025109\" time=\"1621905207\" user_id=\"138082:
No idea, but I would guess that movement tracing and timing info will be used. SP is a big place with thousands of students, and if those students are in different departments and used different canteens etc from known cases, while they were in the same locations in Jem/WG at the same times as other known cases, then it would seem more likely that they would belong to the Jem/WG cluster.
I wonder how they classify if a case is linked or unlinked, and if linked, which cluster to link to. Yesterday case 63664 and case 63665 are household contacts, of which case 63665 has been quarantined earlier due to close contact with a suspected case that later tested negative. Combining information from of them, they visited Westgate on 8May, 10May and 11May. Both case are from Singapore Polytechnic. Why allocated them to the JEM/Westgate cluster instead of the Singapore Polytechnic cluster. The 2 cases have tested for covid-19 on 19 May and it is likely negative then and their result only turn positive on 23 May. How did they conclusively say this is definitely a JEM/Westgate cluster instead of the Singapore Polytechnic cluster, or is it a matter of confirmation bias.
Given that these 2 cases were found just 2 days ago, unlikely that phylogenetic study can be done in double quick time to link them definitively to case 62933. -
starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2025101\" time=\"1621894246\" user_id=\"14025:
https://www.moh.gov.sg/docs/librariesprovider5/pressroom/press-releases/annex-24-may.pdf
Is there a website where one can check on the current clusters and their number of infected?
The news said the JEM/Westgate is the 2nd largest cluster after Changi Airport ??? -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2025113\" time=\"1621907052\" user_id=\"28674:
No idea, but I would guess that movement tracing and timing info will be used. SP is a big place with thousands of students, and if those students are in different departments and used different canteens etc from known cases, while they were in the same locations in Jem/WG at the same times as other known cases, then it would seem more likely that they would belong to the Jem/WG cluster.WE2012\" post_id=\"2025109\" time=\"1621905207\" user_id=\"138082:
I wonder how they classify if a case is linked or unlinked, and if linked, which cluster to link to. Yesterday case 63664 and case 63665 are household contacts, of which case 63665 has been quarantined earlier due to close contact with a suspected case that later tested negative. Combining information from of them, they visited Westgate on 8May, 10May and 11May. Both case are from Singapore Polytechnic. Why allocated them to the JEM/Westgate cluster instead of the Singapore Polytechnic cluster. The 2 cases have tested for covid-19 on 19 May and it is likely negative then and their result only turn positive on 23 May. How did they conclusively say this is definitely a JEM/Westgate cluster instead of the Singapore Polytechnic cluster, or is it a matter of confirmation bias.
Given that these 2 cases were found just 2 days ago, unlikely that phylogenetic study can be done in double quick time to link them definitively to case 62933.
SP is a big place definitely, but so is JEM/Westgate.
The only link seems to be to say they visited JEM/Westgate. However they are also student at SP, and they will have spend much more time in SP, compared to JEM/Westgate.
Beside that, yesterday news tried to pin the origin of the JEM/Westgate cluster to a cleaner (case 62933) who visited Westgate on 6 May. But MOH decided to expand free testing for people who visited JEM/Westgate only between 10 May and 22 May. So in between 6 May and 10 May, MOH decided the virus can lived in the air by itself and there is no need to test people who visited JEM/Westgate on these 4 days. :evil: :evil:
Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions. So many assumptions. -
WE2012\" post_id=\"2025120\" time=\"1621908993\" user_id=\"138082:
I believe that they are more specific in the location tracing than just \"SP\" or \"Jem/SG\". They probably go down to specific eateries, shops, etc.
SP is a big place definitely, but so is JEM/Westgate.
The only link seems to be to say they visited JEM/Westgate. However they are also student at SP, and they will have spend much more time in SP, compared to JEM/Westgate.
Beside that, yesterday news tried to pin the origin of the JEM/Westgate cluster to a cleaner (case 62933) who visited Westgate on 6 May. But MOH decided to expand free testing for people who visited JEM/Westgate only between 10 May and 22 May. So in between 6 May and 10 May, MOH decided the virus can lived in the air by itself and there is no need to test people who visited JEM/Westgate on these 4 days. :evil: :evil:
Assumptions, assumptions, assumptions. So many assumptions.
Not sure what assumptions are made, but I guess they know what they are doing. The fact that we haven't had exponential increases in nos. over the past week would seem to indicate that they have ring-fenced the spread. -
starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2025101\" time=\"1621894246\" user_id=\"14025:
This should explain the Jem/WG cluster.
Is there a website where one can check on the current clusters and their number of infected?
The news said the JEM/Westgate is the 2nd largest cluster after Changi Airport ???
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-jem-westgate-cluster-50-cases-free-swab-tests-14880200 -
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What caught my eye was that the possible source of infection for JEMS/Westgate, was from a cleaner who worked at a SHN facility.
Over at Changi Airport cluster, the first to be confirmed was also a cleaner (an 88yo uncle).
And out of 43 airport staff who caught covid, 12 of them were cleaners. That’s quite a lot! And of the 12 cleaners, only 6 have been fully vaccinated.
So currently, the biggest and 2nd biggest clusters had something to do with cleaners? The old aunties/uncles aren’t protected well enough because cleaning is outsourced to the companies with lowest quote?
Guarding the airport (ground zero) is utmost important. But from the JEMS/Westgate episode, the lesson learnt is that it’s equally important to make sure no cleaner/staff leaks the covid virus into the community from these SHN facilities! Someone should keep an eye on the details to prevent such oversight to cause the next wave. -
I am not trying to discredit anyone but no matter how tight the SMMs are, it all boils down to individuals to strictly observe it. How many times have we seen smokers huddling around maskless and chit-chatting at the obscure smoker’s corner.
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