2021 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2009)
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Imp75\" post_id=\"2041944\" time=\"1634024537\" user_id=\"2358:
It will be better if we can talk about facts instead of what we think or hearsay etc. Perhaps someone can write to MOE to confirm instead of conjecturing.
I also like to believe the raw scores in psle in prior years were on bell curve and not strictly above 91 for A*. My 3 girls were quite evidenced. They had never gotten beyond 85 for languages in a single exam setting in sch yet in psle, all 3 got A*.... impossible for them to score above 91 in my opinion since I did check in with them on their answers post psle etc. Anyway going forward, its AL score. Someone brought up a point about referencing to ESIS cutoff. If I have p6 kid now and troubled about whether eligible for top 4 or not, I will use the ESIS cutoff as a good gadge.
Supposed what you said is correct, if A* grade moves up or down, then rest of the grade will follow. Which mean a passing grade of 50 may become 45, or 54 if suppose the A* jump from 91 to 95.
So what is the intention of the grading system if every year the value is fluctuating? -
CCK2008\" post_id=\"2041946\" time=\"1634024746\" user_id=\"26004:
Is your daughter t-score result around 265-267?
Agreed, I think A* is not 91+, my DD had only managed 80+ for both English and science in Pri 5 and 6, but when PSLE result was released last year, she had 4 A*.
And in fact, she had never heard anyone in her class had 91+ for english in pri 5 and 6 before. -
Veyron\" post_id=\"2041956\" time=\"1634027053\" user_id=\"30663:
267.
Is your daughter t-score result around 265-267?CCK2008\" post_id=\"2041946\" time=\"1634024746\" user_id=\"26004:
Agreed, I think A* is not 91+, my DD had only managed 80+ for both English and science in Pri 5 and 6, but when PSLE result was released last year, she had 4 A*.
And in fact, she had never heard anyone in her class had 91+ for english in pri 5 and 6 before. -
https://www.ifaq.gov.sg/seab/apps/Fcd_faqmain.aspx#FAQ_93279
PSLE
Grades
1. Are bell curves used in grading the PSLE?
We would like to clarify that grades awarded to candidates taking the PSLE are not based on pre-determined percentage of candidates for certain grades (i.e. bell curves). Instead, grading takes into consideration various factors such as the paper difficulty and the quality of candidates’ work, so as to maintain standards across years.
While the grading/scoring system has changed in 2021, I am pretty sure this exact language was there last year (under t-score). -
CCK2008\" post_id=\"2041959\" time=\"1634028153\" user_id=\"26004:
267.[/quote]In one of my earlier post, I have given an estimate of raw score to t-score conversation rate using 257/350.
Is your daughter t-score result around 265-267?Veyron\" post_id=\"2041956\" time=\"1634027053\" user_id=\"30663:
[quote=CCK2008 post_id=2041946 time=1634024746 user_id=26004]Agreed, I think A* is not 91+, my DD had only managed 80+ for both English and science in Pri 5 and 6, but when PSLE result was released last year, she had 4 A*.
And in fact, she had never heard anyone in her class had 91+ for english in pri 5 and 6 before.
If 4 A* = 91 91 91 91, the total raw score marks will be 364.
If you multiply 364 by the conversation rate you will get 267.
One possible explanation is that the school standards for languages can be higher than PSLE. So some students will actually do better in PSLE. Even it is 90.1 marks, it will round up to 91 I think. -
Veyron\" post_id=\"2041964\" time=\"1634029087\" user_id=\"30663:
In one of my earlier post, I have given an estimate of raw score to t-score conversation rate using 257/350.
267.CCK2008\" post_id=\"2041959\" time=\"1634028153\" user_id=\"26004:
[quote=Veyron post_id=2041956 time=1634027053 user_id=30663]
Is your daughter t-score result around 265-267?
If 4 A* = 91 91 91 91, the total raw score marks will be 364.
If you multiply 364 by the conversation rate you will get 267.
One possible explanation is that the school standards for languages can be higher than PSLE. So some students will actually do better in PSLE. Even it is 90.1 marks, it will round up to 91 I think.[/quote]Her classmate at 264, also 4A*. -
CCK2008\" post_id=\"2041976\" time=\"1634031367\" user_id=\"26004:
Her classmate at 264, also 4A*.[/quote]90.1 x 4 x (257/350) is in the region of 264.63
In one of my earlier post, I have given an estimate of raw score to t-score conversation rate using 257/350.Veyron\" post_id=\"2041964\" time=\"1634029087\" user_id=\"30663:
[quote=CCK2008 post_id=2041959 time=1634028153 user_id=26004]
267.
If 4 A* = 91 91 91 91, the total raw score marks will be 364.
If you multiply 364 by the conversation rate you will get 267.
One possible explanation is that the school standards for languages can be higher than PSLE. So some students will actually do better in PSLE. Even it is 90.1 marks, it will round up to 91 I think.
If you believe A* is 89, then 89 x 4 x (257/350) = 261.
What do you reckon is the right value for A*? -
I'm genuinely confused.
Why can it not be 95*2+85*2? That will also give a Tscore of 264.3. How does your calculation prove that all subjects have the same A* score?
In fact, by similar calculation, i can get Tscore 267 (99*2+85*2). How can this show that 85 is not A*? Unless there is proof that A* for all subjects means the same score, any kind of calculation can be done. Agreed that it is difficult to imagine A* for a score in the 70s, but 80s still seem plausible.Veyron\" post_id=\"2041978\" time=\"1634032300\" user_id=\"30663:
90.1 x 4 x (257/350) is in the region of 264.63
Her classmate at 264, also 4A*.CCK2008\" post_id=\"2041976\" time=\"1634031367\" user_id=\"26004:
[quote=Veyron post_id=2041964 time=1634029087 user_id=30663]
In one of my earlier post, I have given an estimate of raw score to t-score conversation rate using 257/350.
If 4 A* = 91 91 91 91, the total raw score marks will be 364.
If you multiply 364 by the conversation rate you will get 267.
One possible explanation is that the school standards for languages can be higher than PSLE. So some students will actually do better in PSLE. Even it is 90.1 marks, it will round up to 91 I think.
If you believe A* is 89, then 89 x 4 x (257/350) = 261.
What do you reckon is the right value for A*?[/quote] -
Mommymini\" post_id=\"2041993\" time=\"1634037684\" user_id=\"129282:
You are right because we are discussing the minimum t-score for 4A*
I'm genuinely confused.
Why can it not be 95*2+85*2? That will also give a Tscore of 264.3. How does your calculation prove that all subjects have the same A* score?
In fact, by similar calculation, i can get Tscore 267 (99*2+85*2). How can this show that 85 is not A*? Unless there is proof that A* for all subjects means the same score, any kind of calculation can be done. Agreed that it is difficult to imagine A* for a score in the 70s, but 80s still seem plausible.
Certainly, a 3A* + A t-score can be higher than 4A*
This is the same reason why AL6 students can achieve a higher raw score or T-score equivalent than AL4
e.g
AL6 95 95 89 89
AL4 90 90 90 90
One very good example is the AL COP for NYGH.
T-score COP is 261 in 2020, similar to RGS, but AL COP for 2020 is AL7, while RGS is AL6 -
Veyron\" post_id=\"2041999\" time=\"1634039135\" user_id=\"30663:
Is it because NYGH is SAP, thus t-score can be 258+3?
You are right because we are discussing the minimum t-score for 4A*Mommymini\" post_id=\"2041993\" time=\"1634037684\" user_id=\"129282:
I'm genuinely confused.
Why can it not be 95*2+85*2? That will also give a Tscore of 264.3. How does your calculation prove that all subjects have the same A* score?
In fact, by similar calculation, i can get Tscore 267 (99*2+85*2). How can this show that 85 is not A*? Unless there is proof that A* for all subjects means the same score, any kind of calculation can be done. Agreed that it is difficult to imagine A* for a score in the 70s, but 80s still seem plausible.
Certainly, a 3A* + A t-score can be higher than 4A*
This is the same reason why AL6 students can achieve a higher raw score or T-score equivalent than AL4
e.g
AL6 95 95 89 89
AL4 90 90 90 90
One very good example is the AL COP for NYGH.
T-score COP is 261 in 2020, similar to RGS, but AL COP for 2020 is AL7, while RGS is AL6
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