Corona Virus Disease (COVID-19) Updates

[starlight1968sg]

there is no right or wrong on when to take the booster. afterall, it is a personal decision.

what we shld be concern with is when our country can see an improvement in the daily new cases and lesser deaths.

[sharonkhoo]

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slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2042617\" time=\"1634432291\" user_id=\"28674:

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I always think, those most educated, read too much into things & information overload to mobilized them fr doing the necessary. In the process, they forget the clues given how the frontliners worked so hard for so long round the clock to keep us safe & help those ill to recover & be more comfortable.

Oftentimes, I wonder at the meaning of staying UNITED in this pandemic & thinking beyond ourselves, if not for fellow SGers, then wldn’t it be for our loved ones (the very young ones & the elderlies) & relatives & friends we hope not spread any unintended ‘present’. I feel you. I feel I can’t do this alone.

UNITED does not mean UNIFORM.

You’re free to make your personal choice. No one is forcing you to conform. I made my decision as I’m past 60s and want to be responsible for myself & protected so I do not burden my family or the National frontliners & resources. Don’t read too much into my meaning coz my circumstances is diff fr yours. I really don’t want to cause anyone stress & burden just coz there is available prevention but I stubbornly not use it. I did the Pfizer & now Moderna. I’m now feel peaceful tt I’m sufficiently protected even if there’s no further need for ano booster unless comes ano super variant my current immunity can’t handle[/quote]Thank you for your clarification that we agree that it's each person's decision what course to take. Your previous response gave me to understand that you felt that your personal decision was the right one for everyone. If I misunderstood you, then I apologise.

[lee_yl]

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what we shld be concern with is when our country can see an improvement in the daily new cases and lesser deaths.

We are already seeing an improvement in daily cases since ART positive cases are not in the count anymore (if mild or no symptoms).

As for fewer deaths, sad to say, after all the vulnerable ones had passed on, then the death rate will slowly taper off.

August = 18 deaths
Sept = 40 deaths (2 times the August fatalities)

Earlier I estimated that the total deaths for the month of Oct would be around 160 (4 times the Sept fatalities) but unfortunately, looking at the recent trend, it is likely to be more than that, close to 300? Which is 7.5 times that of the previous month’s numbers.

So how about for Nov? Would it be 8 or 16 times OCT’s fatalities? If we go by the direct square relationship, we could see more than a thousand deaths in Nov should nothing change.

Those above 65yo with diabetes, High Blood and High cholesterol, there are higher risks of passing on if contracted covid even if vaccinated. The only way now is to quickly roll out booster shots for seniors and have more seniors fully vaccinated.

[starlight1968sg]

Is counting only PCR positive cases correct to reflect the covid situation in Singapore?

[WE2012]

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Is counting only PCR positive cases correct to reflect the covid situation in Singapore?

Correct or not is up to each's interpretation. But virus do not care about all the politics that human play. The result will be clearly shown in the death toll and that is the number that finally matters. Death toll however is a lagging indicator.

I have expected the number to fall but then increase later, abeit at a slower rate (i.e. due to change in methodology that redefines how cases are recorded), given that we start to exclude people who are ART-positive but mild and do not required PCR test for them. The slightly lower number we see this week compared to last week may not reflect a success in our SMM efforts. Rather it may largely be due to change in methodology of how we record cases.

[MrsKiasu]

We got to take it as positive cases may be just besides you..even when it is symptomatic haiz..this morning incidence was worse than the other day at same supermarket.


An elderly was coughing with kinda congested lung standing a distance away talking to a younger person just standing beside me. I was just thinking why didn't that elderly just wait inside the car if he is the one driving the younger person to supermarket or just stay outside the aircon enclosed store? He looked sick to me :sad: but I told myself at least he bother to cautiously be away from us haiz...

I been trying to be careful..went in abt 10-15mins b4 came out..Back home wash from head to toe..

[starlight1968sg]

WE2012\" post_id=\"2042643\" time=\"1634447677\" user_id=\"138082:

starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2042640\" time=\"1634447001\" user_id=\"14025:

Is counting only PCR positive cases correct to reflect the covid situation in Singapore?

Correct or not is up to each's interpretation. But virus do not care about all the politics that human play. The result will be clearly shown in the death toll and that is the number than finally matters. Death toll however is a lagging indicator.

I have expected the number to fall but then increase later, abeit at a slower rate (i.e. due to change in methodology that redefines how cases are recorded), given that we start to exclude people who are ART-positive but mild and do not required PCR test for them. The slightly lower number we see this week compared to last week may not reflect a success in our SMM efforts. Rather it may largely be due to change in methodology of how we record cases.

Agreed with death toll due to covid matters most.
Is about 10 deaths due to covid per day normal in the current situation?

[MrsKiasu]

Will we start seeing 10 as a low number in the very near future :sad:

[sharonkhoo]

starlight1968sg\" post_id=\"2042645\" time=\"1634448125\" user_id=\"14025:

WE2012\" post_id=\"2042643\" time=\"1634447677\" user_id=\"138082:

[quote=starlight1968sg post_id=2042640 time=1634447001 user_id=14025]Is counting only PCR positive cases correct to reflect the covid situation in Singapore?

Correct or not is up to each's interpretation. But virus do not care about all the politics that human play. The result will be clearly shown in the death toll and that is the number than finally matters. Death toll however is a lagging indicator.

I have expected the number to fall but then increase later, abeit at a slower rate (i.e. due to change in methodology that redefines how cases are recorded), given that we start to exclude people who are ART-positive but mild and do not required PCR test for them. The slightly lower number we see this week compared to last week may not reflect a success in our SMM efforts. Rather it may largely be due to change in methodology of how we record cases.

Agreed with death toll due to covid matters most.
Is about 10 deaths due to covid per day normal in the current situation?[/quote]I think the total case count isn't \"correct\" since it leaves out all those who self-test and recover at home without needing a PCR test. As WE2012 points out, as the counting methodology has just changed, it's hard to know what the nos. indicate until 3-4 weeks after the change at least. Hospitalisation and deaths give a better picture, I feel.

As for the deaths, it's been around 10 a day for quite a while, so it seems fairly \"normal\" for now, as vaccine efficacy wanes in some, especially the elderly and vulnerable, and the Delta variant catches some who haven't been vaccinated. I expect that the death nos. will decline once those have been protected by vaccination/boosters, or sadly, die. I've heard some experts say that once this \"catch-up\" phase is past, when everyone has caught and recovered (or not) from Covid-19, then the death rate from Covid might well stabilise at around 2 a day.

[MrsKiasu]

Then we hope dont see any ‘deadlier’ variant after that, else if according to ‘survival of fittest theory’, another round of elimination??