2e children.

[MrsKiasu]

Is 5 hours sleep ‘normal’ for JC students?

[sharonkhoo]

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2133584\" time=\"1715212581\" user_id=\"43981:

Is 5 hours sleep 'normal' for JC students?

My (not 2e) daughters slept at least 8 hrs a night, and a few more during weekends.

lyl - 3 hrs for a nap is quite long - a whole sleep cycle. Has she tried sleeping less - 30-40 mins instead? Sometimes that is enough to power the rest of the day, then she can sleep 8 hrs at night. My daughters sometimes did that - with an alarm to wake them up before they slept too deeply.

[bbbay]

There are education psychologists that can help to pinpoint strength/ weakness of your child. They will administer battery of tests: psychology, aptitude, and many more. To determine where the child stands in various domains among the general population. A very detail report will be given. Including any learning disabilities. The report will tell what type of learner the child is. And with those info , adjustments can be made to build on the strength of the child. It’s save lots of time and frustration from no knowing how to address the challenges the child face

[MrsKiasu]

Mine, not 2e, have been sleeping quite little imo. They usually sleep 6hrs at most and I always think they should sleep more. So when I read cher suggested 5hrs, I was quite surprised.


To cut from 10hrs to 5hrs, may be too much.

[MrsKiasu]

bbbay\" post_id=\"2133588\" time=\"1715214328\" user_id=\"175278:

There are education psychologists that can help to pinpoint strength/ weakness of your child. They will administer battery of tests: psychology, aptitude, and many more. To determine where the child stands in various domains among the general population. A very detail report will be given. Including any learning disabilities. The report will tell what type of learner the child is. And with those info , adjustments can be made to build on the strength of the child. It’s save lots of time and frustration from no knowing how to address the challenges the child face

Any idea the price range?

[sharonkhoo]

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2133589\" time=\"1715214581\" user_id=\"43981:

Mine, not 2e, have been sleeping quite little imo. They usually sleep 6hrs at most and I always think they should sleep more. So when I read cher suggested 5hrs, I was quite surprised.

To cut from 10hrs to 5hrs, may be too much.

I think the teacher is getting carried away - prioritising studies over health. There may be other ways to make more time to study, but cutting back to 5 hrs sleep should not be the way! Maybe cutting back to 8 hrs is reasonable for most kids, but that depends on whether there are other reasons why a teen might need more sleep. See:
https://www.singhealth.com.sg/news/medical-news/sleep-in-adolescence#:~:text=Studies%20conducted%20by%20Duke%2DNUS,speed%2C%20and%20working%20memory%209.

[bbbay]

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2133590\" time=\"1715214712\" user_id=\"43981:

Any idea the price range?

I think it depended on what are the tests requested. 8 hours worth of tests (over 2 days period) cost close to $3K. Some of the test are considered one on one.

[lee_yl]

doodbug\" post_id=\"2133579\" time=\"1715183555\" user_id=\"13281:

Take heart! Many outstanding individuals are 2E - Albert Einstein and LKY are both brilliant and dyslexic.

I guess parents will have to help the child navigate the Singapore/MOE education system, and if really not suited for it, to support the child in pursuing alternative pathways?

Thanks for your kind words. I also think maybe our local mainstream system is not suitable for DD2, but as long as we stay put in SG, we have to persevere and see how best we can help her.

[lee_yl]

slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2133586\" time=\"1715212968\" user_id=\"28674:

My (not 2e) daughters slept at least 8 hrs a night, and a few more during weekends.

lyl - 3 hrs for a nap is quite long - a whole sleep cycle. Has she tried sleeping less - 30-40 mins instead? Sometimes that is enough to power the rest of the day, then she can sleep 8 hrs at night. My daughters sometimes did that - with an alarm to wake them up before they slept too deeply.

Imagine the kid reaches home from sch at 6pm, takes a nap and by the time the kid wakes up, it’s 9pm. Takes a shower and dinner and by the time she settles down to study, it’s almost 11pm, which is bedtime!

For me, I sleep an average of 6hrs and my power nap is like 20mins? It’s not that I have not tried to wake my DD2 up from naps but it’s almost impossible cos she goes into very deep sleep.

Let’s not forget she has short attention span issues, so it will take her longer than usual for her to settle down and she can’t focus for long, every 5mins she will figet with something (pencil case, tissue etc.)
Didn’t know ADHD can also affect the dopamine level. Like what the newspaper article says, it gives others an impression the child is “unmotivated”.

[sharonkhoo]

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2133590\" time=\"1715214712\" user_id=\"43981:

Any idea the price range?

No idea of current pricing. Different tests cost different amounts as well. There should first be a fairly detailed interview with the parent(s) and sometimes the child to narrow down what tests to administer. It may be clear from the interview that some are not needed, or what the most likely issues could be.