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    How to own a property when my household income is net $4600

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    • J Offline
      jojo
      last edited by

      Hi Financial Guru,


      More questions for you:)

      Which is better investment if both ppty is 99 y lease? brand new or 20 y o ppty.
      Friends told me brand new unit it might not the layout we see in the showflat plus we have to pay a premium price. As for old unit we can have a feel whether we are comfortable plus the facing of the unit. :xedfingers:
      What is your thoughts?

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        financial_guru
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        dreamrat:
        financial_guru, I am 31 this year. My DH is 28.

        The flat was purchased on Jan 2010. So, we still have to service it till Jan 2015 before we can buy a 2nd property.

        After re-calculating, if I were to re-finance the HDB loan, i.e. using cash of $125k & all the balance in CPF O.A, I would be able to clear the HDB loan by Jan 2015.

        1) If it were u, would u be topping up $125k cash?

        2) After I repay all the loan in HDB, how much the bank will loan me? 80%? Thanks thanks

        3) Additionally, i realised that I have less cash after the cash re-payment... So, I have to start saving again...Hopefully, after another 5 years, I will have more than $100K again...
        For 1), the answer is it depends. If yr cash investment is getting a higher rate of return than yr HDB loan interest rate of 2.6%, dont pay up the loan too early.

        For 2) Yes. Right now its max 80%, though I expect the value could drop lower, depending how khaw boon waan will change the housing rules to further cool the housing market.

        For 3) answer is in 1) above.

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          financial_guru
          last edited by

          jojo:
          Hi Financial Guru,


          More questions for you:)

          Which is better investment if both ppty is 99 y lease? brand new or 20 y o ppty.
          Friends told me brand new unit it might not the layout we see in the showflat plus we have to pay a premium price. As for old unit we can have a feel whether we are comfortable plus the facing of the unit. :xedfingers:
          What is your thoughts?
          Well, firstly I wouldn't put my money in 99yr leasehold for investment, only to stay in or pass to kids. 99yr leasehold properties can be difficult to sell once the leasing duration goes below 60yrs.

          I would not buy a 20yr property. That means there is less than 79 yrs left on the lease. Once the property goes below 60 yrs, the property becomes difficult to sell because of the CPF rules. If you need to sell to cash out, you'll need to find a cash-rich buyer and he will have the advantage to dictate the price you get.
          There could be estate maintainance issues also unless you're speculating for en-bloc, which I advise you not to do so. Its like gambling.

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            Poonie
            last edited by

            Hi Financial Guru

            If gov’t is listening to the grouses of the public prices of brand new hdb will drop. Do you think those still holding hdb should sell at its all time high to cash out and buy a condo now before condo prices go up further. Condo prices might go up further if govt change policy and forbid PRs to buy hdbs resulting in higher demand for condos? What is your opinion on these? Not sure if my analysis is correct.

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              financial_guru
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              Poonie:
              Hi Financial Guru

              If gov't is listening to the grouses of the public prices of brand new hdb will drop. Do you think those still holding hdb should sell at its all time high to cash out and buy a condo now before condo prices go up further. Condo prices might go up further if govt change policy and forbid PRs to buy hdbs resulting in higher demand for condos? What is your opinion on these? Not sure if my analysis is correct.
              The govt knows they have to engineer a soft landing in the public housing market which is too hot right now.
              Personally I don't think they will take the drastic step of disallowing PRs to buy HDB. That will totally collapse the resale market!
              PRs will still be allowed to buy HDB flats on resale market.
              What I think will happen is:
              1) They will relook at the BTO process and application for new HDB flats and increase the supply for the new flats to keep prices affordable.
              2) Increase CPF housing grant for 1st time buyers, may link amt of housing grant to inflation?

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                heyhoe
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                Hi Financial Guru,


                I am with UOB for 15 years loan and on fixed rate for the 1st, 3 years. By next month, my fixed rate will end. Thus, does this mean I won’t be able to refinance if the amount falls below $100K? Please advise.

                If not, it will be difficult to refinance, isn’t it? What other option do I have?

                Appreciate your advice. Thanks!

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                  Poonie
                  last edited by

                  financial_guru:
                  Poonie:

                  Hi Financial Guru

                  If gov't is listening to the grouses of the public prices of brand new hdb will drop. Do you think those still holding hdb should sell at its all time high to cash out and buy a condo now before condo prices go up further. Condo prices might go up further if govt change policy and forbid PRs to buy hdbs resulting in higher demand for condos? What is your opinion on these? Not sure if my analysis is correct.

                  The govt knows they have to engineer a soft landing in the public housing market which is too hot right now.
                  Personally I don't think they will take the drastic step of disallowing PRs to buy HDB. That will totally collapse the resale market!
                  PRs will still be allowed to buy HDB flats on resale market.
                  What I think will happen is:
                  1) They will relook at the BTO process and application for new HDB flats and increase the supply for the new flats to keep prices affordable.
                  2) Increase CPF housing grant for 1st time buyers, may link amt of housing grant to inflation?

                  Financial Guru
                  Thanks. We have a hdb in a prime location which we are very reluctant to sell. Thinking of buying a condo. Do you think I should keep it for rental and move back when we are old or should we sell it whilst it is at its highest price? Do you think the policy changes will affect pte pties or will the focus be on hdb prices?

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                    Leander
                    last edited by

                    Hi,

                    I am with UOB for 10 years loan and on fixed rate for the 1st 2 years. By next month my fixed rate will end. Thus, does this mean, I won’t be able to refinance if the amount falls below $100K? Please advise.Thanks advance

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                      Harleston
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                      I have also similar amount of income and want to own a residential property. I am looking for home loan which is under my financial means so that I can pay the loan amount easily.

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                        dreamrat
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                        Harleston, will u be buying EC or condo?


                        Right now, we are considering to sell our HDB and buy EC instead of Condo as Condo seems out of our reach, unless our income increases significantly. Owning two properties seems not feasible at current market pricing.

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