Veyron\" post_id=\"2053188\" time=\"1640337898\" user_id=\"30663:

My assessment on RGS using historical t score of 260 has been spot on as many parents in RGS forum have expressed their disappointment that their DD didn't managed to get into RGS with AL6.

As I have explained before RGS 2020 t-score cop of 260 very close to AL5 range.

The outcome of the S1 posting is the most important validation.

I for one don't see what's so 'spot on' about this prediction. It's not wrong, but it's nothing more than we already knew.

MOE's simulation already showed RGC COP as AL6, which means the last student admitted had AL6, which also means (most likely) other AL6 students didn't get in. This further means under the new AL system, balloting will take place at AL6. And that's exactly what happened. We knew some AL6 students would be balloted out from the get-go using MOE data!

If your analysis (using historical t-score) can tell us anything additional -- for example, the % of AL6 students got balloted in/out -- then that's helpful. Without that, historical t-score adds nothing to this discussion.

SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2049415\" time=\"1638107791\" user_id=\"188234:

No one knows for sure but it is unclear to me whether students who enter via DSA Academic domains are strongly biased towards AL4s and AL5s vs. AL6s+ (obviously still very good scores).

In the past, I believe the vast majority of DSA Academic could meet the COP based on PSLE results. Part of this was due to the fact the very very high scores in your \"talent\" subject helped to boost the overall t-score. But under AL since 90 and 100 are both AL1, the subject geniuses no longer get any leverage out the best subject and AL4-AL5 means you are just good at everything (perhaps >90 should be described in a different way than \"just good\" ).

Combined with the fact that the AL COP will involve many more students than in the past, there's a reasonable case that the DSA Academic took out less of the supply of students \"well inside\" (i.e. high or best scorers) of the COP vs years past. Again, no one knows for sure, and I wouldn't suggest anyone behaves differently with their choices but it's something to think about.

That being said, there are definitely going to be students who got AL4-AL5 and also got a CO/WL converted (froma ll of academic, sports, leadership, CCA, etc); there's no shortage of really bright kids that work hard to put up great results!

I agree. There's still quite a bit of guesswork involved. Statistically, it's possible that AL4-5 students' flocking to one particular school (esp a girl school) would drive that school's COP down to AL5.

I think the gender distribution can produce some interesting outcomes. Girls traditionally already outperformed boys under t-score, now that the AL system further rewards more well-rounded students (dilute boys' advantages in science and math, so goes the stereotypical thinking), the expectation is that girls would do even better.

What impact will this have? Some AL6 girls pushed out RGS, NYGH, and MGS, and a cascading effect happens: they have to settle for co-ed schools (NJS, DHS, RVHS) and push out boys who would otherwise get into those under t-score?

Maybe something to take into consideration when making selection choices.

Some of the confusion over choice order and merit (AL score) is probably caused by a misestimate of the # of AL4 and AL5 students. If we assume the total % of AL4 + AL5 students is 3%, that translates to 1173 students. Of these, I guess at least half would already be admitted through DSA. That leaves about, let’s say, 600 to go through S1 posting. Divide that by half gives 300 boys and 300 girls (more likely 200 boys vs. 400 girls). Unless they all somehow choose the same school as their first choice, then there is no possibility that AL4 or AL5 would not get into their first choices.


As many have said, no school has a COP below AL6. No point worrying about those lucky ones with AL4 and 5 – they will all get in their first choice, while still leaving spaces (not sure how many though) in every school for the rest.

bryanwang5155\" post_id=\"2049101\" time=\"1638020722\" user_id=\"98252:

Good evening all. My DS got AL8M for her PSLE. Need guru here to give me feedback on her/my choice of school as follows:-

1. Cedar IP (8)
2. Dunman High IP (8D), a SAP school, my DS loves CL
3. St Nicks O lvl (8M)
4. Cedar O lvl (9)
5. Nan Chiau O lvl (11M), a SAP school, near home
6. SCGS O lvl (9), near her twin sis choice of school.

She wishes to do IP like her sis, so that explains the 1st 2 choices. Thank you in advance.

If she loves IP and CL, can choose DHS as 1st choice -- she may get in if this year's COP drops just a little. For Cedar, she'll likely go through balloting, as the AL8 group can be sizable. If unsuccessful, then her chance at DHS as 2nd choice is further diminished. But of course, the reverse is also true: if unsuccessful at DHS, then her chance at Cedar as 2nd choice decreases. So this is where the tough choice lies:
1) Cedar as 1st choice, to maximize the chance of just getting into any IP school, or
2) take more risk and aim for an IP-SAP school (DHS), but be prepared to accept a non-IP SAP school (SNGS-O, Nan Chiau).

Nan Chiau will be a very safe choice and a good choice (SAP and close to home), you can afford to be aggressive in the earlier choices.

Good luck!

putien\" post_id=\"2048596\" time=\"1637900250\" user_id=\"29927:

simplycho\" post_id=\"2048493\" time=\"1637864978\" user_id=\"39507:

hi all! my child is considering between DHS, VS and HCI for 2022 intake so would like to find out the culture in DHS and what made your child enjoy DHS

DHS was my husband’s alma mater and he strongly believes in the character building which DHS has, which has shaped his character and forged many great friendships which lasted till this day.

building character is our primary focus when researching for a secondary school for my child, with strong moral values

however, as DHS was still not an IP school in my husband’s era, I’m wondering if anyone knows how the past cohorts have fared for A levels?

The current indicative COP for DHS is 4-8, while my child scored 6 with a merit in HCL, i do feel anxious placing him in an IP track


thanks in advance for reading my post

My hubby and I were considering RI, HCI and DHS last year. Our primary focus was, and still is, character building and strong moral values. We preferred a small close knit environment where the A-level cohort size is smaller ~400 (vs ~800-1200 in larger JCs). This is because the two years in JC are short and by the time one adapts to a new campus, make new friends etc one year would have gone by. Choosing DHS minimises these changes. A co-ed school may also help boys and girls to gain a fresh perspective from each other intellectually, develop socially, and become more confident in expressing their views in the presence of members of the opposite sex and leaves them with a wider, more diverse network of friends. If your child wants to experience JC life, then I think a real JC (i.e .HCJC or VJC) will be a preferred choice because the dynamics is totally different from DHS.

My child made the final decision to join DHS and enjoys it - likes the proximity (we stay in the east) and the 16 canteen stalls offering pretty good choices and variety. lol

For A level results, pls refer to https://dunmanhigh.moe.edu.sg/?s=a+level+results
and discussion on comparison of A level results between larger JCs (HCJC, VJC etc) and smaller ones (DHS/RVHS)
https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=67330&start=2930

If your child is a self-directed learner, he will be fine in an IP track.

Most importantly, talk to him about the school choices - pros, cons and let him decide where he wants to spend the next 4-6 years of his student life. Intrinsic motivation is important when the going gets tough.

You may want to check out DHS virtual open house too: https://dunmanhigh.moe.edu.sg/e-openhouse-nov2021/

Very useful thoughts! Thanks! We will follow the same logic and send DS (AL6D) to DHS. Let's just hope this year's COP doesn't go up drastically. :xedfingers:

Some other factors also in DHS's favor:
- one of the strongest in Chinese language
- got MEP, as well as BCS, CLEP -- the only school with this combination.
- lower fees!!!
- nicer uniform!

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2046146\" time=\"1636764647\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2046146 time=1636764647 user_id=53606]
Here is my new list for AL COPs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QGdLuY1MgnMm95Zp-euxV_AU2TfCnNyBojWHHFTGyC0/edit?usp=sharing

(T score is history, so don't ask me to map or correlate from T scores to AL scores.) - someone else can do it if they wish[/quote]

Incredible work! MOE should have done this. We're all in your debt.

IMHO, the added benefit of learning a third language at MOELC is very limited. If one only wants some superficial ability, now can easily learn by oneself, with all the technologies available nowadays. To acquire a high level of proficiency requires a lot of commitment, which few would have. I think being a polyglot is overrated–before long, AI will give us an app that can easily translate between languages.

Hi, can someone share a rough timetable for Sec 1 students? – things like when school starts and ends every day, some afternoons got CCA and electives, etc.?


Thanks in advance!

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forrestz\" post_id=\"2024950\" time=\"1621676738\" user_id=\"135905:

Can anyone share at what time school starts every day at NUSH (sec 1)? We live quite a distance from the school. Need to take this into consideration. Thanks!

Hope this help ...

Example timetable:

Mon 8-10 lesson, 10-10:30 recess, 10:30-12 lessons, 12-1pm lunch, 1-3pm lessons, 3-4 assembly, CCA (depend on individual)

Tue 8-10 lesson, 10-10:30 recess, 10:30-1:30pm lessons, 1:30-2:30pm lunch, reserve for pull out and etc (depend on individual) ... if nothing, then school end at 1:30pm

Wed 8-9:30 lesson, 9:30-10 recess, 10:30-1pm lessons, 1-2pm lunch, 2-6pm lessons

Thu 8-10 lesson, 10-10:30 recess, 10:30-1:30pm lessons, 1:30-2:30pm lunch, 3-6 electives (depend on individual) ... if no electives, then school end at 1:30pm

Fri 8-8:30 mentoring session, 8:30-9:30 lesson, 9:30-10 recess, 10:30-12pm lessons, 12pm-2pm lunch, 2-3pm lessons, 4-6pm CCA (depend on individual)

long lunch time on Friday, or free time like Friday 3-4pm, Thu 2:30-3pm can be used for pull out, doing homework, looking for teachers, or mentoring session

2 Hr of PE, 2 Hr Art/Music, 2Hr Hum

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6.Timetable
- Monday
CCA 6pm
-Tuesday
Usually early(1pm) unless you take electives such as Olympiad or in lower years \"fun\"classes.
-Wednesday
Depends if you have research. Ends at 2pm then you continue your research classes. Yr 1-3 have compulsary research classes known as Da Vin Ci program. Upper years have their advanced research projects to complete.
-Thursday
Varies from level to level
-Friday
CCA 6pm but usually have a super long break

Sources:-
https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95132&start=5090
https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1926874

Thanks a lot! That's very helpful!

Can anyone share at what time school starts every day at NUSH (sec 1)? We live quite a distance from the school. Need to take this into consideration. Thanks!