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    • RE: COP 2018

      joy2:
      Just curious, are there any students qualified for IP yet choose O level path in the same school? Assuming the school is having dual track.

      yes. some VS students choose O instead of IP. so they would go RJC after O.

      event some of kids got score higher than RI, went to O level, then later go back to RJC.

      posted in Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • RE: COP 2018

      thisis2012:

      Hi from what I’ve read, the total number of dsa applications is not small, >16000 in 2017.

      https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/record-number-of-pupils-applied-for-direct-entry-to-sec-1

      With the new AL scoring system and all, it’s going to get even bigger. The battleground is shifting, so to speak? :roll: :?:
      no. the shifting is to select student based on more factors instead of academy only. the basis of selection criteria is still the same, pick the best of student, either through academy or sports/arts and etc.
      when the PSLE scoring system moves from t-score to AL, i.e. from competition to qualification, the DSA still remains as competition.

      posted in Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • RE: COP 2018

      LKY1967:
      Parents are given plenty of information on how the posting exercise works. They get a book \"Choosing your Secondary Schools\" which contains the relevant information. The key information is available online and schools also give details in one form or another. If you don't understand, ask your school / MOE. But DSA is another matter altogether. My kid's school gave out no information whatsoever (except for a leaflet from NUS High), and we didn't know anything about how DSA works. I asked my kid to ask his classmates. I was disgusted when my kid told me that no-one wanted to say anything. They didn't want to share any information (probably because if my kid applies too it reduces their own chance of getting it!). As an adult, I was appalled. Posting to secondary school should not be reduced to some Machiavellian game. I also feel sorry for those kids who didn't get any of their 6 choices.

      It is normal. DSA is not to qualify for a certification. It is a competition in a small group of student. Only the best could be awarded. it is just like a sports game, not a NAPFA test. If you want to win, you will not allow other competitors to know how you train yourself.

      If you wants to know about how DSA works and what is the experiences and tips. it is better to get it from forum like KSP or whatsapp/wechat group or other senior students you know.

      posted in Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • RE: COP 2018

      lee_yl:
      It may not be fair to say that. I too have friends in similar situations; they did not choose NYGH as their 1st choice as their kids’ tscores are below 260. It is not true they never thought of going over.


      Maybe your chart lah, estimating the COP of NYGH to be 262-263 which scares off people!! 🦆



      P/S: I counted 71 NYPS girls (MS+GEP) going back to NYGH.
      how many of 71 is through affiliation? or affiliation is counted separately?

      posted in Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • RE: COP 2018

      6thisnthat9:
      May I post a silly qn which may had been posted and answered to before ?


      Do top schools , mainly IP schools, have the autonomy to keep their COP at a minimum score? Meaning, if each of these top schools has 300 vacancies, but to maintain a min COP, they have only filled 200? Is this possible? If so, this is no longer just about demand and supply. Are they obliged to fill up all vacancies?

      How about MOE schools? I presumed they are obliged to fill up all vacancies. Correct?

      If all schools are obliged to fill their vacancies, then using EESIS 3% and third language 10% tscores, indicators to estimate COP is not wrong.

      This over demand in mid tier schools resulted in higher COP, must have come from some where.
      no. school's intake is fixed number almost, it could be single digit more/less, but it won't affected cop much. the cop may be affected by the number of dsa awarded also.

      no matter, dsa or intake. the major factor is still demand. as within one mark of t-score would have more than 400 pupils. it is much more than any school's intake.

      posted in Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • RE: COP 2018

      swissfondue:
      jpe:

      [quote=\"lovekin\"]This year's COP for the big fours lower than previous years. Does it mean the 2018 national cohort not as strong as previous years? Just wondering...


      no. it means the difficulty of paper is easier than before, especially EL and MT.
      it may cause lower t-score in overall and lower cop in girls schools.

      it could be MOE's adjustment to bring up boy's score for preparation of 2021.

      That’s not how t-scores work. If it is an easier paper and you did well, and so did all others, your t-score won’t go up (and neither will theirs).[/quote]how I estimate this is:
      1. EL/MT paper is easier than before, the deviation will be smaller.
      2. the deviation is smaller, then the tscore of these two subjects would be lower.
      3. generally, girls get better result than boys in language subjects. so girls schools would have lower cop.

      towards to 2021 AL, MOE would like to have more gauge feel about how to segregate different level of pupils and in-balance boy/girl ratio in top co-ed schools.

      posted in Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • RE: COP 2018

      lovekin:
      This year's COP for the big fours lower than previous years. Does it mean the 2018 national cohort not as strong as previous years? Just wondering...

      no. it means the difficulty of paper is easier than before, especially EL and MT.
      it may cause lower t-score in overall and lower cop in girls schools.

      it could be MOE's adjustment to bring up boy's score for preparation of 2021.

      posted in Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • RE: COP 2018

      snowmummy:
      mamamiya:

      [quote=\"snowmummy\"]My boy got RI at 261


      Mine too! At 262

      Just to check, the message says express course. Is it same as IP? Thanks[/quote]yes. IP is part of express.

      posted in Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • RE: PSLE 2017 (COP)

      Harrychew:

      It is 4 - 32, i.e. 29 distinct PSLE scores. I think people should should give the new system a chance to see how it works.

      In each batch of O level students (prior to IP program), roughly 25% of students contested for slots in JCs, while the rest go to ITE or Poly. L1R5 possible scores are from 6 upwards, and JC cut off was set at 20. I recall the top 5 JCs were able to take in students scoring less than 12, and most of top students went to RJ or HC. In those years, L1R5 worked fairly well for the students going into JC, so I think the new changes will also work well for sorting out the top 30% of PSLE students.

      I hope the new PSLE score will see the top 10% have scores spread across 4 to 10 points, instead of bunching up at 4 to 6 points. Probably MOE already has a good idea of how the students will be distributed based on current PSLE raw scores.
      my estimation is this, would you see it is close to real or not?

      al\tstream
      4\ttop1
      6\tesis
      10\tip
      16\tHMTL
      17\texpress, uni
      18\texpress, poly
      19\tmean
      21\texpress, poly
      22\tna, poly
      25\tna, poly
      26\tnt, ite

      posted in Secondary Schools - Selection
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    • RE: Way to GEP for a Normal Kid

      sembgal:
      GEP English screening test was easy but GEP Math screening test was very difficult to my child. First time she is telling me that Math is difficult! I think it must really be difficult! She did not attend any prep class at all.

      good luck. hope today's haze won't affect your DD.

      1st round is normal test. whoever can get high score in school would likely pass it.
      2nd round is gep test. it is a real tough test.

      posted in GEP
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