winsomelosesomee\" post_id=\"1964764\" time=\"1582598623\" user_id=\"183607:

obm\" post_id=\"1964754\" time=\"1582597021\" user_id=\"162988:

I have a not-so-good impression of NYJC, after reading all the nasty posts by NYJCians on Kiasuparents.com and Reddit.

winsomelosesome, in a meaningless bid to hardsell your own NYJC, you now also target SAJC that is accessible by NEL that also serves NYJC. My goodness.

Badmouthing SAJC
[quote=winsomelosesomee post_id=1959011 time=1578994013 user_id=183607]Its long over due reply.
From what i know, its UAS 76-77.
I just saw 1 SAJC couple in half uniform holding hands and hugging inside mrt from Potong Pasir. 🙁

Have been hearing bad feedback on SAJC culture these few years.

There was another negative post re SAJC's 2019 UAS which you published in the SAJC thread. You've since deleted it.

Do you think you bring honour to your JC by doing this a few times a year (1. O level results release, 2. A level results release, 3. DSA season, 4. S1 Posting season, 5. your own PH/semester break previously) ? Do you think your parents are proud of your cyber antics?

Why don't you get on with your life, get a partner and leave behind all these T-score, RP/ UAS, JC ranking monitoring. These are understandably unemployed kiasu parents' obsessions. But It should not be the preoccupation of a young adult who should be happily dating, interning, learning new skills at the workplace, climbing the corporate ladder, growing his wealth or bringing dole back to the family, after graduating from a JC he is so obsessively proud of.

Look at these posts that are posted by you an NYJC alumnus. Does MOE still measure Value-addedness? How do you measure value-addedness without the Government's formula?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Putting down EJC

winsomelosesomee\" post_id=\"1964671\" time=\"1582541671\" user_id=\"183607:

Ejc 3 H2 A% dropped from 45% to 33%
Median from 85 to 83.
Sharp drop.
No value add.
Mean wd be 80..
----
2018 IP cohort came in with 249-268 P6 results. Thats top % kids.
Dont think these P6 kids shunned EJC IP.
With such results, didnt add value.
----
Jae cop was 10/11, yup.
Total cohort 610.
But JAE cohort 200+ only.
IP cohort ard 400.
----
Yes, its a drop compared to last yr result.
----
2018 IP cohort of EJC took 2019 A level.
These cohort entered de 3 IP Sec with very high T scores (249-268), no affiliation point.
They didnt get in with avg scores n didnt shun EJC IP Prog.
These batch IP cohort ard 400 out of 610.
Results dropped sharply.
----
Value add.
1 EJC ksp last yr said Ejc first A level results 2018 had value addedness.
Yet now u said too early to conclude value add in Ejc.
Go n check.

Why u insist to compare with Nyjc ah.
Worried.

For Ny, u know the LINK to the Head's talk.
If cant derive much, then so be it.
------

2nd batch IPs not as strong?
Your opinion only.
They re still De Top 1-5 % P6 scorers to enter EJC Sec 1.
U mean only ~275 scorers can excel better in A level ah.

I reckoned the diff in cop of EJC JAEs. But still 200+ size.
Go n tell yr supporters that now cant conclude if EJC value add or not. Not me.

Why u like to compare with Ny ah.
Better chance if u compare with Tjc, Acjc, other JCs.

winsomelosesome's posts found in other JC threads should be quoted and pasted back on NYJC's own thread. Let the Principal and MOE see what their IBs have been up to on social media. Sociopaths like winsomlosesome if not reined in early may become a fake news spreader in future. They want to influence unsuspecting netizens' minds.

Sajc news is true.
A Sajc parent asking so i reply. Deleted as its my wish.
Ejc 2019 results is true. To post here, nothing wrong as i got de info.
Other postings are reply to yr ksp supporters.
U dun worry abt me eg wat i do.

Now yr ksp kakis re pestering me abt Ny.
Why u dun tell them to stop ah.[/quote]For the record, those forummers are not my kakis.

Any photo to show those SAJCians frolicking in public?

I'm more interested to know your own RP. I don't like people to ride on the coattails of their more successful seniors or juniors.

You can go on and on, year after year, about NYJC's Median and Mean, but did you yourself hit that sort of Median and Mean?

Earlier, your Grandyma also attacked ASRJC which is also near NYJC.

https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=92909&p=1902059#p1902059

Looks like I'm not the only parent who has a poor impression of your JC now.

KTKS\" post_id=\"1902059\" time=\"1552189964\" user_id=\"134904:

Hello guys! I suppose this thread is for ASRJC pupils and parents to share their experiences and journey in this new merged JC. Please refrain from 'kiasuly' comparing which JC is better and criticising how standard must have dropped in a certain JC and such. As we all know, there are many factors affecting the choice of a JC and not due simply to the Principal or teachers of the school. By boasting, you are actually giving bad impressions to others about NYJC or EJC. As the saying goes '有其父（母）必有其子（女）‘. Others will think badly of the students of these JCs since they have such kiasu, boastful, inconsiderate and narrow-minded parents.
Please show more graciousness and keep your feet off your neighbour's backyard.
Thank you!

Dino\" post_id=\"1964736\" time=\"1582595276\" user_id=\"6726:

Parent\" post_id=\"1964735\" time=\"1582595180\" user_id=\"2348:

Btw, heard a NYJC boy attained 9 Distinctions, including 3 H3 subjects.

WOW FIERCE SIA!!!!!

Please don't spread fake news.

I have a not-so-good impression of NYJC, after reading all the nasty posts by NYJCians on Kiasuparents.com and Reddit.


winsomelosesome, in a meaningless bid to hardsell your own NYJC, you now also target SAJC that is accessible by NEL that also serves NYJC. My goodness.

Badmouthing SAJC

winsomelosesomee\" post_id=\"1959011\" time=\"1578994013\" user_id=\"183607:

Its long over due reply.
From what i know, its UAS 76-77.
I just saw 1 SAJC couple in half uniform holding hands and hugging inside mrt from Potong Pasir. 🙁

Have been hearing bad feedback on SAJC culture these few years.

There was another negative post re SAJC's 2019 UAS which you published in the SAJC thread. You've since deleted it.

Do you think you bring honour to your JC by doing this a few times a year (1. O level results release, 2. A level results release, 3. DSA season, 4. S1 Posting season, 5. your own PH/semester break previously) ? Do you think your parents are proud of your cyber antics?

Why don't you get on with your life, get a partner and leave behind all these T-score, RP/ UAS, JC ranking monitoring. These are understandably unemployed kiasu parents' obsessions. But It should not be the preoccupation of a young adult who should be happily dating, interning, learning new skills at the workplace, climbing the corporate ladder, growing his wealth or bringing dole back to the family, after graduating from a JC he is so obsessively proud of.

Look at these posts that are posted by you an NYJC alumnus. Does MOE still measure Value-addedness? How do you measure value-addedness without the Government's formula?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Putting down EJC

winsomelosesomee\" post_id=\"1964671\" time=\"1582541671\" user_id=\"183607:

Ejc 3 H2 A% dropped from 45% to 33%
Median from 85 to 83.
Sharp drop.
No value add.
Mean wd be 80..
----
2018 IP cohort came in with 249-268 P6 results. Thats top % kids.
Dont think these P6 kids shunned EJC IP.
With such results, didnt add value.
----
Jae cop was 10/11, yup.
Total cohort 610.
But JAE cohort 200+ only.
IP cohort ard 400.
----
Yes, its a drop compared to last yr result.
----
2018 IP cohort of EJC took 2019 A level.
These cohort entered de 3 IP Sec with very high T scores (249-268), no affiliation point.
They didnt get in with avg scores n didnt shun EJC IP Prog.
These batch IP cohort ard 400 out of 610.
Results dropped sharply.
----
Value add.
1 EJC ksp last yr said Ejc first A level results 2018 had value addedness.
Yet now u said too early to conclude value add in Ejc.
Go n check.

Why u insist to compare with Nyjc ah.
Worried.

For Ny, u know the LINK to the Head's talk.
If cant derive much, then so be it.
------

2nd batch IPs not as strong?
Your opinion only.
They re still De Top 1-5 % P6 scorers to enter EJC Sec 1.
U mean only ~275 scorers can excel better in A level ah.

I reckoned the diff in cop of EJC JAEs. But still 200+ size.
Go n tell yr supporters that now cant conclude if EJC value add or not. Not me.

Why u like to compare with Ny ah.
Better chance if u compare with Tjc, Acjc, other JCs.

winsomelosesome's posts found in other JC threads should be quoted and pasted back on NYJC's own thread. Let the Principal and MOE see what their IBs have been up to on social media. Sociopaths like winsomlosesome if not reined in early may become a fake news spreader in future. They want to influence unsuspecting netizens' minds.

H2 Art/AEP is not an easy subject to ace. Quite a no. of them ended up getting B&Cs for unknown reasons even though they can really draw, and note such outliers could pull down the cohort’s Mean to some extent if they only take 3H2s. What were the Art/AEP distinction rates for NYJC and NJC last year?


How about NYJC’s CLEP distinction rates vs TJC’s?

NotEducatedMan\" post_id=\"1941750\" time=\"1571290281\" user_id=\"98110:

This chap suddenly no sound no shadow after last A-level results.
But I think he/she just came back with 2 new but similar username.. haha!

Wrong subject identified.
The phraseology and forensics reveal that subject has been using an electronic handheld device.
Profile: An Art, Media & Design student who did AEP in JC, who scored RP60+, employment prospects unknown.

^ Admission to Art, Design & Media programme is based on Composite Score which comprises Entrance Requirement Score and University Admission Score. IGP for AMD is CCD/C (10th percentile), far from the median.

Your scenario of a kid laterally switching from G3 Phy to G3 Bio at the end of Sec 3: I don't think there's time to complete G3 Bio in 1 year. Very much doubt this will be recommended or approved by his school.


Under SBB, NA/NT students may be advised to drop the higher level subject(s) to NA/NT level if they cannot pass. This should be allowed after 2024 too, i.e. AL21-30 scorers can flexibly move up or move down the G123 ladder.

Read this:

“So then we are put under pressure to make sure the students who cannot pass go back to the Normal (Technical) stream where they can get an 'A', and we are pressurised to make sure the students are okay with it,” she said.

“You can have very hardworking students, but if they’re not as bright sometimes … this could be an issue.”

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/phasing-out-streaming-in-schools-stigma-labelling-may-be-reduced-11340762



Why not just wait for MOE to release more information? The affected people will only take the new exam in 2027

phtthp\" post_id=\"1902585\" time=\"1552492032\" user_id=\"35251:

MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"1902581\" time=\"1552490065\" user_id=\"43981:

maybe balloting also they have layers (internally)? like the highest go first/allocated higher weightage?

you mean, in the name of balloting, they refered to the internal T-score, captured inside the computer system (hidden info from parents' prying eyes), to determine the degree (or extent) of how lucky a candidate is, during balloting ?

This way, for the two identical 8 pointers, the \"luckier\" 259 T-score student will be balloted in first, before \"unlucky\" 248 T-score student, because 259 has a higher T-score (hidden info) than 248 student, therefore has \"more luck\", so to speak. ? No doubt their AL-score (8 points) is identical ( the same), however their T-score internally, is very far apart. (259 minus 248), is almost ten T-score points difference, apart. After all, no outsider (P6 parent nor student) is allowed to watch how they conduct balloting. Behind the scene, even if they made use of other sources of internal system crunched data available, nobody know except themselves, those conducting the ballot process. Balloting is Not a Transparent process, since outsiders cannot witness. So, the definition of 'luck\", is not the divine luck that one usually think of initially.

It's the same as JAE computerised balloting.

JAE posting webpage says 'equal opportunity', so no internal fine layers like decimal or raw score differentiation. Pure luck. RANDOM like iBet, BTO flats and NDP tickets. Rigorously audited.

A parent on Pg 13 was correct to say you won't even know if you have undergone a ballot, because the central computer will just cascade to your Choice 2 as soon as you're balloted out at Choice 1. And suppose you are so unfortunate to encounter another tie at Choice 2, you just undergo balloting again until Choice 6. As with JAE posting, you are not going to be informed. All these algorithms should have been built in.

Probably they will issue the 2021 batch a booklet with COP estimates, and briefings will be conducted to ensure you don't select a school you are not prepared to be posted to or misrank your dream school or affiliated school?

phtthp\" post_id=\"1902771\" time=\"1552575962\" user_id=\"35251:

Why they only pilot run 25 schools, so few ?

Why not pilot run majority of the schools, then come 2024, the official grand roll-out all take place ? Not enough resources ?

AL scores kick in 2021. From 2022 to 2024 the COPs stablise. They may want to monitor the progress of different AL scorers first.

So far, they said G1/G2 students (AL23-24 scorers) who 'did very well' in e.g. Eng and Math can take those subjects in G3, but have they defined 'very well' under the new AL system? Would the cut-off be AL1-AL4?

And though AL4-20 scorers are almost certainly going to take full G3, Ong also told CNA reporter that if given a chance to turn back the clock, he might consider taking Eng (or was it Geog/Hist/Lit, I cannot remember) at G2 level. That means G3 Express can also 'downgrade' to G2 subjects. Will that mean relabelling the current O-level Combined SS/Hist or SS/Geog to G2 in future?

Maybe not, because Ong said:

\"Subject-based banding will allow lower secondary school students to study more subjects at a higher level – not just English, mother tongue languages, maths and science, but also others, such as geography, history and literature, Mr Ong said.

“As it may be difficult to ascertain the level suitable for students using just their PSLE results, MOE and schools will develop guidelines and assessment mechanisms, including using Secondary 1 year-end examinations,” he added.\"

All that to-ing and fro-ing between SEAB, MOE and the Cambridge exam board over accreditation matters sure take a few years.

And before 2027, the year in which the first national G-level exam takes place, they need to sort out the devil in the details for JAE. Pretty much what some members had already mentioned a week ago.

There'll be plenty of changes after 2027. JC rankings will change again when you have G-level people with different combis entering thru JAE.

FantasyLandDreams\" post_id=\"1902766\" time=\"1552575151\" user_id=\"105816:

Me thinks Boon Lay Secondary could be one of the 25 schools too...
For my friends who are asking, they prefer to choose the pilot run schools instead as they think these 25 pilot schools are chosen might be due to them having more experienced teachers or other resources. Plus they have younger kids in kindergarten now too and those schools would be ‘more experienced’ by then. Not sure how other folks think though.

Ok. If they plan ahead to enrol child in a primary school affiliated to a pure G3 secondary, then their kids won't need to mingle, is it? There was a mum with P5 and P6 (another Sec 2) children interviewed by ST last weekend. Not sure if you've read what she told the reporter. She has some issues with intermingling classes.

https://mothership.sg/2019/03/streaming-straits-times-prejudice-snobbish/

I think PLMGS could be one of the schools too. I saw it featured by MOE on their Facebook and on schoolbag.

If I'm not wrong, from 2020 till 2024, it's just timetabling and reorganising 3 streams into mixed ability classes. So if you enter Sec 1 next year into these 25 schools, you should find yourself in a mixed ability class, although the NA, NT classmates will still take their own papers in 2023 and O levels in 2024.

This re-timetabling process shouldn't take that long since primary schools have been doing that for a while. Perhaps they just don't want to rush through. They should 'full-SBB' another 25-30 schools in 2021, 25-30 more in 2022, etc.

The papers reported that SBB teachers have already been trained by MOE to handle multiple streams. There are allied educators to support them too. G1 might be more challenging due to behavioral issues, but they break up at staggered periods for their respective G combis. They only come together as a form class during art, music, PE, and what have you.

Senior principals are very adaptable and versatile too. For instance, Crest Secondary (a full NT school) principal could helm Raffles (a full IP+JC school).

I only worry for the fresh NIE graduates. Can they cope with mixed ability classes?

anxious.dad\" post_id=\"1902367\" time=\"1552378336\" user_id=\"52054:

As long as the COP for these top favourite schools is not 4, there will always be opportunity for deserving PRs and foreigners as long as they are 4 pointers. Furthermore, there will be scholars joining the schools, so these \"tier 1\" schools will not be SC only closed systems.

Personally, I feel DSA should screen by citizenship first: SCs first, followed by PRs.

The former has the power to remove your 4G from office. The latter serves NS too.

Surely the new DSA application portal is clever enough?