fromnuaa:

you are right, that is why i said that it is unfair for local NYGH students..

semaj:

[quote=\"fromnuaa\"]Chinese scholar: strong in MT, weak in other subjects (because of English).
Local students: weak in MT, strong in other subjects.

I think it would be fairer for secondary school (year 1 - year 4) if the school has less China scholars....

I think you are wrong fromnuaa. The china & vietnam scholars in NYGH are actually very bright. And very good all round except for ENGLISH. In math and the sciences, they are miles ahead of our local students. Many of these scholars are acutally older than the local students. So for example in Sec 1, while the locals are 13y, the scholars are 14 or 15. Some have already studied what NYGH is teaching them when they were in their home counry. So it is only a revision for them. So obviously, they will do very well in the exams. Most of them get in to the top 2 classes ij NYGH.

[/quote]Sad but true. So in the end our kids have to really really really study damn hard. They got to have NO LIFE but study. Like that Malay girl who takes 40 mins break only . Only becoz she wants to go to RGS. She mugs so hard. Then she gets an uneven playing field in RGS. Then she studies even harder coz she has to compete with the foreign students.

fromnuaa:

Chinese scholar: strong in MT, weak in other subjects (because of English).

Local students: weak in MT, strong in other subjects.

I think it would be fairer for secondary school (year 1 - year 4) if the school has less China scholars....

semaj:

[quote=\"fromnuaa\"]how about RGS? In RGS, lots of China scholars or not?

I think there are China scholars in RGS too but I think the number is smaller as NYGH/HCI is more well known to mainland Chinese than Raffles. In an ealier thread on this forum, someone wrote this: Go to NYGH/HCI if you want to study in Beijing/Oxford & Cambridge (humanities programme). But if you want ot go to US Ivy League, then go to Raffles JC. So want to study in China go to NYGH. Want to study in US, study in RGS. Sorry this may sound very blunt. No offense to NYGH or RGS.

[/quote]I think you are wrong fromnuaa. The china & vietnam scholars in NYGH are actually very bright. And very good all round except for ENGLISH. In math and the sciences, they are miles ahead of our local students. Many of these scholars are acutally older than the local students. So for example in Sec 1, while the locals are 13y, the scholars are 14 or 15. Some have already studied what NYGH is teaching them when they were in their home counry. So it is only a revision for them. So obviously, they will do very well in the exams. Most of them get in to the top 2 classes ij NYGH.

There is so much talk about which school, RGS or NYGH. RI or HCi? But in the end really what every parent is asking is which IP programme is better. Raffles IP or Hwa Chong IP? And the only thing we really have is the A level results. I believe the 1st batch of IP students graduated in 2008. So here are some more stats on A level results (gathered from the respective school web sites upon release of A level results)

No of students with 7 A’s and above (meaning all distinctions)
2008 RJC 360 HCJC 174
2009 RJC 303 HCJC 216
Hope this helps parents to decide. Granted one should not only look at the results. One has to look at the child and see which culture suits the child. But as parents, we always want the best for our child right?

noob:

fromnuaa:

It means last year the average T-score of NYGH students is lower than RGS, right?


School\t 2009-S1 \t 2010-S1
Hwa Chong \t259-3=256 \t257-3=254
Nanyang Girls' \t263-3=260 \t263-3=260
Raffles Girls' \t263 \t260
Raffles Institution \t262 \t259

Thus RI and RGS average T-score should be higher than HCI and NYGH.

Yes agreed. Base on that NJC average T-score is higher than HCI and DHS too.

Hey Noob, good point . I didn't even see that. Based on this argument, then NJC should be 3rd after the 2 Raffles!!!

fromnuaa:

how about RGS? In RGS, lots of China scholars or not?

semaj:

Yes there are lots of China & Vietnam scholars in Nanyang. I know coz my daughter studied there.

I think there are China scholars in RGS too but I think the number is smaller as NYGH/HCI is more well known to mainland Chinese than Raffles. In an ealier thread on this forum, someone wrote this: Go to NYGH/HCI if you want to study in Beijing/Oxford & Cambridge (humanities programme). But if you want ot go to US Ivy League, then go to Raffles JC. So want to study in China go to NYGH. Want to study in US, study in RGS. Sorry this may sound very blunt. No offense to NYGH or RGS.

fromnuaa:

Then means last year NYGH and RGS COP are same (260)...

But don't forget that NYGH has students coming in with affliation from Nanyang Pri. And for them the COP point is 253 or there abouts.

sinoboy:

May I ask which years were you in NYGH? While you were there, were there already many china students?

Yes there are lots of China & Vietnam scholars in Nanyang. I know coz my daughter studied there.

jtoh:

fromnuaa:

would you tell me which newspaper has this news?


actually majority of the top scorers of 2010 come from GEP, they should have DSA offer already.

[quote=\"jtoh\"]I was reading the newspapers and it appears that quite a few of the top PSLE scorers this year have decided to go either RI or RGS. This was also the case last year where a majority of the top scorers (as listed by MOE) chose to go RI / RGS.

ST and online. And yes, many of them have DSA'd into RGS/RI while others are opting for RI/RGS during the S1 posting exercise.[/quote]
If you base on COP alone, then the top five schools would be 1.RGS 2. NYGH 3.RI 4.HCI 5. Dunman High in order. NB: I know that for last year, the cut off point for NYGH was higher than RGS and Dunman High was higher than HCI. But that was for only last year. In previous years, since 2003, it has always been the top 5 ranked with RGS being top and HCI at 4th ahead of Dunman High.

mummyjoyce:

fmer1317:

RGS or NYGH?

My daughter scored 262 + 3 and I am wondering does she stand a good chance to enter RGS or NYGH? If she does, should her 1st choice be RGS or NYGH? Please advise. Tks:D

RGSS for sure

RGS for sure. Yes both are IP. But RGS goes on to RJC and NYGH goes to Hwa Chong. But RJC's A level results, since the IP started, is better than Hwa Chong's A Level results. Just some stats to help you decide. For 2009 A level results RJC 362 out of 1285 (26.2%) got perfect 90 pts for entry to University. Hwa Chong had 212 perfect scorers out of 1104 (19.2%). My choice would be RJC.

XiaoYang:

Can someone with a score of 254(+1) get into dunman high?

Considering that he's GEP and the COPs will be lower this year?

Dunman High will grab!!! Coz he's a GEP kid!!!!!! Never mind the PSLE score. He's a GEP kiid!!!!