2020 PSLE Discussions and Strategies(for those born in 2008)
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mommyNg\" post_id=\"2006425\" time=\"1606883180\" user_id=\"2838:
Most IP students who take HCL do not need to take O level Express chinese at Sec 3 as long as you pass HCL in school exams. But this pass criteria may differ from school to school. Most schools will indicate it as C6 (50%), but in certain schools such as NYGH you need a min of B4 (60%) for HCL at the end of Sec 2. My friend’s Sec 3 dd from NYGH had to sit for O level express chinese exam this year because she only got 50+% for her HCL in Sec 2. I think for SCGS, the pass criteria is 50%.m3i_m3i\" post_id=\"2006419\" time=\"1606881796\" user_id=\"18745:
Hi phtthp,
Are all IP students who take HCL no need to take O-level at Sec 3?
Or this is applied only for CHS?
My DD is going to SCGS IP and eligible to take HMT.
Thank you -
m3i_m3i\" post_id=\"2006419\" time=\"1606881796\" user_id=\"18745:
Hi!
Hi phtthp,
Are all IP students who take HCL no need to take O-level at Sec 3?
Or this is applied only for CHS?
My DD is going to SCGS IP and eligible to take HMT.
Thank you
I just asked my DD's teacher - SCGS IP students reading HMT do not take O level MT in Sec 3.
However, not all SCGS girls who start with HMT, continue with HMT for four years - some of the girls who fail HMT in Sec 1/2/3, do drop HMT. -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2005880\" time=\"1606707392\" user_id=\"35251:
This is really good overview, thanks!!! Just to clarify...
Since your son have accepted the DSA offer into Catholic High -deardear07\" post_id=\"2005855\" time=\"1606704617\" user_id=\"1429:
hi phtthp, do u know which SAP schs push the kids to take HCL in sec 1? is Catholic High 1 of them?
1)
HCL is compulsory for All IP students in Catholic High (SAP school)
At end of Sec 4,
All IP students sit for O-level (HCL) exam.
All IP students,
no need to sit for O-level (bu-hua) in Sec 3, because they are destination bound for Eunoia Junior College, hence don't need to be bothered by this L1R5 thing.
2)
for O-level track CHS students, HCL is Not compulsory.
O-level students do have a choice.
a)
If Moe has already given your son the HCL eligibility letter, then he (in O-level track) can study HCL from Sec 1.
Three years later, in Sec 3,
he will take O-level (bu-hua) National exam first.
In Sec 4, the following year, then he take O-level (gao-hua) exam next, in the month of November, together with rest of all the other IP students inside the exam hall.
b)
But,
if your son didn't receive any MOE HCL letter, then he will proceed to study CL (bu-hua) in Sec 1, not gao-hua.
However,
when reach the end of his Sec 1 journey -
if O-level track students are keen & interested to study Sec 2 gao-hua, they can appeal to CHS Chinese HOD,
using their Sec 1 Report card (showing bu-hua CL results + overall results in other subjects as well including English, Maths, Science & best performance in Humanities subject). Out of 3 Humanities subjects, choose the best one
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Apart from this HCL thing, two years later, for O-level track CHS students,
at the end of Sec 2 streaming year,
If they are keen to Transfer across to IP starting Sec 3, can approach Principal directly.
P will interview short-listed candidates for suitability, to join Sec 3 IP curriculum.
Once vacancies are released, because successful O-level students have Transferred across into IP, then
the other way round now,
end-of-Y2 students from the IP track who wish to Transfer back to OP quickly to prepare for O-level exam just in time for Upper (Sec 3 and 4) , because after attempted IP for two years, they find that IP doesn't quite suit them after all, they will grab these vacancies eagerly, after seats released by the O-level students who have transferred across successfully into IP (Sec 3).
As you know,
the O-level seats in CHS, are very precious.
Why precious ?
because
every year, at end of Sec 2 streaming, there is a lot of movement
- not just internally within CHS from different OP and IP track only,
- but also from external students studying in other schools locally also seeking transfer into CHS. These pupils can be from any local Sec school.
- as well as students from Asean countries also seeking Transfer in, concurrently.
Transfer Application form, at end of Sec 2, into CHS
https://catholichigh.moe.edu.sg/secondary/admission-to-year-3-integrated-programme/
For OP students:-
1) In S3, they will take 普华 national exam, and the score can be used for L1R5?
2) In S4, they will take 高华 national exam, and this score can be used for L1R5 and bonus 2pts deduction?
3) If the result for 高华 is borderline kind but still pass (btw what grade is pass?), then the student use it to earn bonus 2pts but not consider it in L1R5 aggregate?
For IP students,
1) Only required to take 高华 national exam at S4, and if the pass then JC1 & 2 can throw away all CL books liao? -
jakoh\" post_id=\"2006557\" time=\"1606917317\" user_id=\"151698:
For OP students:
This is really good overview, thanks!!! Just to clarify...
For OP students:-
1) In S3, they will take 普华 national exam, and the score can be used for L1R5?
2) In S4, they will take 高华 national exam, and this score can be used for L1R5 and bonus 2pts deduction?
3) If the result for 高华 is borderline kind but still pass (btw what grade is pass?), then the student use it to earn bonus 2pts but not consider it in L1R5 aggregate?
For IP students,
1) Only required to take 高华 national exam at S4, and if the pass then JC1 & 2 can throw away all CL books liao?
1) they can choose to use MT as one of the R5, provided they did not also use HMT as their L1.
2) they can choose to use HMT as their L1 (and not EL), and regardless of whether they use HMT or not as long as they pass both EL and HMT, they get their 2 bonus points.
3) “Pass” HMT according to MOE requirement to get 2 bonus points is C6, but to be exempted from taking MT at JC is D7, to meet the min requirement to go JC is E8 for HMT or D7 for MT. Yes. Students can use EL as L1 instead of HMT if the formal score is better than the latter and still earn the bonus 2 points anyway.
For IP students:
1) For most IP schools, if you pass HMT (D7), then you are exempted from taking MT in JC. But for NYGH and HCI, IP students have to get a minimum grade of B4 for their O level HCL exam in Sec 4, otherwise, sorry, they cannot throw away all CL books. They have to attend 2 hours of H1 CL lessons every week and sit for GCE A level H1 CL exam at the end of JC 1.
http://www.hci.edu.sg/uploadfile/admission/subject%20info%20and%20prerequisites%20for%202016%20J1_Final%2028Aug15.pdf -
mommyNg\" post_id=\"2006579\" time=\"1606923343\" user_id=\"2838:
Pg 12 of the JAE booklet for bonus points indicate that both EL & HMT has to be at least C6 to get the 2 bonus points for JC/MI admission.
For OP students:jakoh\" post_id=\"2006557\" time=\"1606917317\" user_id=\"151698:
This is really good overview, thanks!!! Just to clarify...
For OP students:-
1) In S3, they will take 普华 national exam, and the score can be used for L1R5?
2) In S4, they will take 高华 national exam, and this score can be used for L1R5 and bonus 2pts deduction?
3) If the result for 高华 is borderline kind but still pass (btw what grade is pass?), then the student use it to earn bonus 2pts but not consider it in L1R5 aggregate?
For IP students,
1) Only required to take 高华 national exam at S4, and if the pass then JC1 & 2 can throw away all CL books liao?
1) they can choose to use MT as one of the R5, provided they did not also use HMT as their L1.
2) they can choose to use HMT as their L1 (and not EL), and regardless of whether they use HMT or not as long as they pass both EL and HMT, they get their 2 bonus points.
3) “Pass” HMT according to MOE requirement is D7. Yes. Students can use EL as L1 instead of HMT if the formal score is better than the latter and still earn the bonus 2 points anyway.
For IP students:
1) For most IP schools, if you pass HMT (D7), then you are exempted from taking MT in JC. But for NYGH and HCI, IP students have to get a minimum grade of B4 for their O level HCL exam in Sec 4, otherwise, sorry, they cannot throw away all CL books. They have to attend 2 hours of H1 CL lessons every week and sit for GCE A level H1 CL exam at the end of JC 1.
http://www.hci.edu.sg/uploadfile/admission/subject%20info%20and%20prerequisites%20for%202016%20J1_Final%2028Aug15.pdf
Pg 31 of the JAE booklet says E8 is the minimum for higher mother tongue or D7 for mother tongue to go JC/MI
https://beta.moe.gov.sg/uploads/2021-JAE-Information-Booklet.pdf -
Thanks for the clarification! I’ve edited my post accordingly. Interestingly, according to MOE requirement, both EL and HMT must be min C6 to get 2 bonus points (page 12), but to be exempted from taking MT at JC it requires min D7 (page 97), and to meet the min requirement to go JC is E8 for HMT or D7 for MT (page 31).
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Hi! I have a question about the PSLE listening comprehension exam. Can someone tell me if the questions and 4 options of the MCQs are read aloud in the recording? I know the texts are read aloud, and I believe the questions are as well. But what about the 4 choices? Thanks!
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slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2006603\" time=\"1606956927\" user_id=\"28674:
My son said that for English only the question were read aloud. For MT (CL), the questions as well as the answer options (3 choices) were read aloud too.
Hi! I have a question about the PSLE listening comprehension exam. Can someone tell me if the questions and 4 options of the MCQs are read aloud in the recording? I know the texts are read aloud, and I believe the questions are as well. But what about the 4 choices? Thanks!
At least that is what he recalled. Others feel free to correct - I am not 100% sure on his answer... -
SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2006606\" time=\"1606957564\" user_id=\"188234:
This is what my DS said too.
My son said that for English only the question were read aloud. For MT (CL), the questions as well as the answer options (3 choices) were read aloud too.slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2006603\" time=\"1606956927\" user_id=\"28674:
Hi! I have a question about the PSLE listening comprehension exam. Can someone tell me if the questions and 4 options of the MCQs are read aloud in the recording? I know the texts are read aloud, and I believe the questions are as well. But what about the 4 choices? Thanks!
At least that is what he recalled. Others feel free to correct - I am not 100% sure on his answer... -
I have a question on tscore, sorry if it has been asked before.
For the tscore reflected in the certificate, is it rounded to nearest score or round down to nesrest score? Eg. 249.99 is rounded up to reflect as 250 or rounded down to 249?
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