Raffles Girls' School (Secondary) [*IP]
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Hi all, I heard that RGS girls are not doing as well in A level in recent years, probably due to their new teaching approach - project works and self-learning. Some RGS girls failed most subjects in JC1, kind of worrying our choice now. I think teaching fundamental knowledge in classroom is still very important for this age, project works and self-learning approach should be limited at max 20-30% of time. If your children from RGS are in RI(JC) now, kindly share your view on this. Thank you
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qcd\" post_id=\"2011555\" time=\"1610248163\" user_id=\"190693:
DD1 going to JC1, so I cant really comment on their A level results as she hasn't really heard any complaints from the seniors. But I wont be surprised if they start failing in JC1 due to the 'big jump' from secondary to JC. But at a breakfast dialogue with the principal a few years ago, a parent raised the concerns that RGS girls found themselves falling behind the RI boys in JC1, and questioned the learning gap and curriculum difference between RI and RGS. The P's answer at that time was that RI has streaming (top/ GEP classes), RGS doesn't (all mixed ability classes). The top classes in RI are pitched at a much higher standard than the average classes. Hence when RGS girls moved over and compared themselves with the top RI boys, yes, they will find a learning gap and that they are somewhat behind the boys. But the girls typically have no problems catching up, given the solid foundations they learnt at RGS. Kind of make sense, but I have no idea how true that is.
Hi all, I heard that RGS girls are not doing as well in A level in recent years, probably due to their new teaching approach - project works and self-learning. Some RGS girls failed most subjects in JC1, kind of worrying our choice now. I think teaching fundamental knowledge in classroom is still very important for this age, project works and self-learning approach should be limited at max 20-30% of time. If your children from RGS are in RI(JC) now, kindly share your view on this. Thank you
On project works, I actually found them to be really great. They learnt a lot of skills that I think are very useful in real life, practical skills that they can apply at work in future. I can really see DD1 grew as a person through the project works that she participated. I personally find these to be special about RGS, experiences that you may not get from taking the O level route. If academic results is all one is after, maybe O level is a better option? -
Cbk\" post_id=\"2011715\" time=\"1610350730\" user_id=\"49917:
Hi Cbk, thank you for your sharing, it is great to know that they can acquire useful life skill in RGS. However, the 'rumor' I heard is about the lower performance of RGS students in JC1 and A level in general. Yes, some of them will pick up the exam skills in RI fast, but it could be a painful process for quite a number of them. I just hope our daughters have the same chance to get into good universities and degrees of their choices, I am sure most of RGS girls do go to the universities. Yes, they can be very successful in working life with the project and people skills, that is provided they have sufficient knowledge to get to the interview. It would be good to learn from any parents whose daughters are already in RI and how they cope with the changes. I am sorry if I have created anxiety here, my daughter's Tscore is near the bottom line in RGS, kind of worried after hearing that. Much appreciated!
DD1 going to JC1, so I cant really comment on their A level results as she hasn't really heard any complaints from the seniors. But I wont be surprised if they start failing in JC1 due to the 'big jump' from secondary to JC. But at a breakfast dialogue with the principal a few years ago, a parent raised the concerns that RGS girls found themselves falling behind the RI boys in JC1, and questioned the learning gap and curriculum difference between RI and RGS. The P's answer at that time was that RI has streaming (top/ GEP classes), RGS doesn't (all mixed ability classes). The top classes in RI are pitched at a much higher standard than the average classes. Hence when RGS girls moved over and compared themselves with the top RI boys, yes, they will find a learning gap and that they are somewhat behind the boys. But the girls typically have no problems catching up, given the solid foundations they learnt at RGS. Kind of make sense, but I have no idea how true that is.qcd\" post_id=\"2011555\" time=\"1610248163\" user_id=\"190693:
Hi all, I heard that RGS girls are not doing as well in A level in recent years, probably due to their new teaching approach - project works and self-learning. Some RGS girls failed most subjects in JC1, kind of worrying our choice now. I think teaching fundamental knowledge in classroom is still very important for this age, project works and self-learning approach should be limited at max 20-30% of time. If your children from RGS are in RI(JC) now, kindly share your view on this. Thank you
On project works, I actually found them to be really great. They learnt a lot of skills that I think are very useful in real life, practical skills that they can apply at work in future. I can really see DD1 grew as a person through the project works that she participated. I personally find these to be special about RGS, experiences that you may not get from taking the O level route. If academic results is all one is after, maybe O level is a better option? -
Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2011636\" time=\"1610294453\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2011636 time=1610294453 user_id=58173]
Thank you, Zeal. It is nice to read this. My daughter does enjoy school so far, this is the most important thing at the moment.
https://www.rgs.edu.sg/qql/slot/u1290/Alumnae%20Stories/Alyssa%20Marie%20Loo%20Li%20Ann_October%202018.pdf[/quote] -
qcd\" post_id=\"2011765\" time=\"1610373168\" user_id=\"190693:
Agreed!
Thank you, Zeal. It is nice to read this. My daughter does enjoy school so far, this is the most important thing at the moment.[/quote]Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2011636\" time=\"1610294453\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2011636 time=1610294453 user_id=58173]https://www.rgs.edu.sg/qql/slot/u1290/Alumnae%20Stories/Alyssa%20Marie%20Loo%20Li%20Ann_October%202018.pdf
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qcd\" post_id=\"2011760\" time=\"1610372383\" user_id=\"190693:
My daughter was in RGS/RI quite a few years ago (A levels in 2017), so I don't know if there have been significant changes in teaching since she was there. Most of her friends did well (from super-top grades to good enough to get into courses they wanted in local universities). There were some who didn't do as well, but they also had other issues, not purely academic.
Hi Cbk, thank you for your sharing, it is great to know that they can acquire useful life skill in RGS. However, the 'rumor' I heard is about the lower performance of RGS students in JC1 and A level in general. Yes, some of them will pick up the exam skills in RI fast, but it could be a painful process for quite a number of them. I just hope our daughters have the same chance to get into good universities and degrees of their choices, I am sure most of RGS girls do go to the universities. Yes, they can be very successful in working life with the project and people skills, that is provided they have sufficient knowledge to get to the interview. It would be good to learn from any parents whose daughters are already in RI and how they cope with the changes. I am sorry if I have created anxiety here, my daughter's Tscore is near the bottom line in RGS, kind of worried after hearing that. Much appreciated!
All students face the jump between Yr 4 and A levels, and some cope better than others, whether they are in IP schools, O level schools, etc. PSLE score really means very little by that stage. Some kids may not be the top in PSLE score, but have other skills and habits which make them do better, some mature later, etc. Equally, just having a top PSLE score doesn't mean that the student automatically shines at everything all the way to A levels. Just getting into a top school in Sec 1 doesn't guarantee that a student is going to do well at A levels; neither does getting a lacklustre score at PSLE mean that the student is doomed never to achieve top grades at A levels. There are so many things that can affect grades - motivation, maturity, personal issues, distractions (CCA, boyfriend, etc.), family issues, health...
Given that you really can't really guarantee any particular outcomes, the best you can do is to make sure that your daughter develops good study habits, including discipline, time management and motivation, a keenness to learn, a willingness to ask questions, genuine interest in some subjects, etc. -
Hi slmkhoo, thanks for the nice sharing.
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slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2011798\" time=\"1610411448\" user_id=\"28674:
Have to agree that PLSE score doesn't mean very much and doesn't determine if one will continue to do well in O and A level. Have heard cases of top scorers who didn't do so well by the time they reach S4, while those who just met the COP doing well and shining. Their self motivation and time management skills is more important. I think its rare that those who continue to stay focus and work hard don't do well.
My daughter was in RGS/RI quite a few years ago (A levels in 2017), so I don't know if there have been significant changes in teaching since she was there. Most of her friends did well (from super-top grades to good enough to get into courses they wanted in local universities). There were some who didn't do as well, but they also had other issues, not purely academic.qcd\" post_id=\"2011760\" time=\"1610372383\" user_id=\"190693:
Hi Cbk, thank you for your sharing, it is great to know that they can acquire useful life skill in RGS. However, the 'rumor' I heard is about the lower performance of RGS students in JC1 and A level in general. Yes, some of them will pick up the exam skills in RI fast, but it could be a painful process for quite a number of them. I just hope our daughters have the same chance to get into good universities and degrees of their choices, I am sure most of RGS girls do go to the universities. Yes, they can be very successful in working life with the project and people skills, that is provided they have sufficient knowledge to get to the interview. It would be good to learn from any parents whose daughters are already in RI and how they cope with the changes. I am sorry if I have created anxiety here, my daughter's Tscore is near the bottom line in RGS, kind of worried after hearing that. Much appreciated!
All students face the jump between Yr 4 and A levels, and some cope better than others, whether they are in IP schools, O level schools, etc. PSLE score really means very little by that stage. Some kids may not be the top in PSLE score, but have other skills and habits which make them do better, some mature later, etc. Equally, just having a top PSLE score doesn't mean that the student automatically shines at everything all the way to A levels. Just getting into a top school in Sec 1 doesn't guarantee that a student is going to do well at A levels; neither does getting a lacklustre score at PSLE mean that the student is doomed never to achieve top grades at A levels. There are so many things that can affect grades - motivation, maturity, personal issues, distractions (CCA, boyfriend, etc.), family issues, health...
Given that you really can't really guarantee any particular outcomes, the best you can do is to make sure that your daughter develops good study habits, including discipline, time management and motivation, a keenness to learn, a willingness to ask questions, genuine interest in some subjects, etc.
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