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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • phtthpP Offline
      phtthp
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      Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2055878\" time=\"1642332565\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2055878 time=1642332565 user_id=58173]
      How does BCME compare with BCMP? During my time, triple science is popular with doing medicine.[/quote]
      whether is BCME or BCMP (last time many years ago), makes no difference

      because

      neither Economics nor Physics, help in medicine at all.

      Econs is applicable, if u enter business / finance career field.

      Physics is applicable, if u enter Engineering field.

      But mastery of Medicine Anatomy of human body or Surgery content, eg. Cardio-thoraxic surgery or brain surgery, don't need any Econs nor Physics back ground.


      Anyway, BCMP is forbidden now because you need a \"Contrasting \" subject.

      So,
      even if your child is in Year 4 IP or O level track now doing Triple Science, eventually when reach level JC(1), end up can only do maximum two Pure Sciences (either Chem + Bio Or Chem + Physics ) at A level. Still \" forced \" to drop one Pure Science, in the end.

      However, note that
      our A level H2 Biology content also don't dwell into study of our human body system anymore. This was done only at the O level (6093) Biology Moe syllabus.


      How about IB, a different curriculum from A level ?
      Allow u to study Triple Science in IB, Year 5, at ACSI (IB) or SJI (IB) ?

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      • SG_KP1S Offline
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        phtthp\" post_id=\"2055883\" time=\"1642332922\" user_id=\"35251:

        How about IB, a different curriculum from A level ?
        Allow u to study Triple Science in IB, Year 5, at ACSI (IB) or SJI (IB) ?
        No, IBDP is usually only one Science but you can drop Category 6 (Arts) for another Science if you want (i.e. make two Science).

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        • Zeal mummyZ Offline
          Zeal mummy
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          Imp75\" post_id=\"2055882\" time=\"1642332693\" user_id=\"2358:

          Now cannot do BCMP. Need 1 contrasting subject.
          Ah I see, thanks for the information. So now the kids would choose/ compare BCME with PCME?

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          • Zeal mummyZ Offline
            Zeal mummy
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            phtthp\" post_id=\"2055883\" time=\"1642332922\" user_id=\"35251:

            whether is BCME or BCMP (last time many years ago), makes no difference

            because

            neither Economics nor Physics, help in medicine at all.

            Econs is applicable, if u enter business / finance career field.

            Physics is applicable, if u enter Engineering field.

            But mastery of Medicine Anatomy of human body or Surgery content, eg. Cardio-thoraxic surgery or brain surgery, don't need any Econs nor Physics back ground.


            Anyway, BCMP is forbidden now because you need a \"Contrasting \" subject.

            So,
            even if your child is in Year 4 IP or O level track now doing Triple Science, eventually when reach level JC(1), end up can only do maximum two Pure Sciences (either Chem + Bio Or Chem + Physics ) at A level. Still \" forced \" to drop one Pure Science, in the end.

            However, note that
            our A level H2 Biology content also don't dwell into study of our human body system anymore. This was done only at the O level (6093) Biology Moe syllabus.


            How about IB, a different curriculum from A level ?
            Allow u to study Triple Science in IB, Year 5, at ACSI (IB) or SJI (IB) ?
            Interesting.. so I guess they will have to decide if they want physics or biology, along with CME.

            What does H2 A level biology do then? If it’s not the study of the human body?

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            • phtthpP Offline
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              You can go to Biology A level H2 syllabus (SEAB), subject code 9744 from 2021 onwards, to take a look. To do with cells, genetics, bio-molecules. Nothing to do with human body system like the study of heart, lungs, kidney, stomach digestive system, nervous system, muscles, etc. If you are interested in micro-biology, it suits u.



              Study of human body system was done / covered under O-level Pure Bio syllabus (6093) or under the O-level Combined Science (Bio) syllabus.


              Most IP students will choose Triple Science, in Year 3 and Year 4.

              By the time Year 4 IP students completed their year end October / November Promotion exam entering into JC (1), they ought to know


              1) what’s their own strength and weakness, between Physics vs. Bio, which one they can cope or cannot cope ?


              2) have a rough idea of what kind of career to pursue.

              If want engineering,
              eg. want
              Electrical, Electronic / Mechanical / Civil / Chemical / Computer Science engineering, then continue with A level Physics.


              If hate (disliked) engineering or don’t forsee their life has got anything to do with engineering, then drop Physics.

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              • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                Zeal mummy
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                Good information, thank you for sharing!

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                • sharonkhooS Offline
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                  Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2055896\" time=\"1642344891\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2055896 time=1642344891 user_id=58173]
                  Interesting.. so I guess they will have to decide if they want physics or biology, along with CME.

                  What does H2 A level biology do then? If it’s not the study of the human body?[/quote]
                  BCME and PCME are the most popular science combinations. I think we have to break out of the more narrow consideration of subjects in the past - Bio is obviously useful for medicine, but being factual, is easier to learn on their own. I know students who didn't do Bio and go into medicine, and they just did some cramming on their own to catch up. Modern medicine is so advanced now that chemistry, which is less easy to cram on your own, is more important in understanding a lot about how the body works, drugs and treatment options.

                  But not all students who take science subjects want to study medicine! Many take PCME and are clear that they will not.

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                  • doodbugD Offline
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                    In both my kids’ schools, it isn’t true that most IP students take Phy, Chem and Bio in upper sec.

                    AA Level Bio is not a prerequisite for consideration into NUS and NTU Medicine.
                    (But if you are applying overseas, some medical schools will require it.)

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                    • Zeal mummyZ Offline
                      Zeal mummy
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                      doodbug\" post_id=\"2055910\" time=\"1642379566\" user_id=\"13281:

                      In both my kids' schools, it isn't true that most IP students take Phy, Chem and Bio in upper sec.
                      AA Level Bio is not a prerequisite for consideration into NUS and NTU Medicine.
                      (But if you are applying overseas, some medical schools will require it.)
                      What are the popular combinations in your school? And are they relatively more flexible when it comes to J1 subject selection?

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                        Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2056012\" time=\"1642483822\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2056012 time=1642483822 user_id=58173]
                        What are the popular combinations in your school? And are they relatively more flexible when it comes to J1 subject selection?[/quote]
                        I am not sure how flexible the Year 5 subject combinations are relative to other JCs.
                        In my DS' school, apart from Bio as a 3rd science, a good number of students opt to take Computing instead, or other special programmes which do not involve Bio. There are also students who take double sci.
                        In my DD's school, IP girls read triple science (1 class), or double science (3 classes). All girls take two full humanities (non-negotiable) in upper sec.

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