DSA 2023
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Winterapple\" post_id=\"2115113\" time=\"1690805120\" user_id=\"131173:
refer to last year's dates. should give u an idea of this year's estimated date for those schools u applied for.
A long wait till 11 Sep is unbearable for the parents and kid. Wonder if any school domain has announced its CO & WL?
https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=101834&hilit=basketball&start=3550 -
keas\" post_id=\"2115031\" time=\"1690768716\" user_id=\"29240:
Hi it is quite well known that RI will take in top medalists even with weak P5/6 grades for DSA. They are very hungry for the achievements. If the child cannot cope, worse case is to ask to transfer school. Personally know of kids who entered via Sports DSA that obtained 15-18 for actual PSLE. Also known kids with P5 SA2 worse than 17 shortlisted for interviews. It’s really nothing new. Like u, I also wonder why those parents still choose RI and not care about whether the overall fit is there.
Yes, not to mention it might dampen the child’s spirit.
But I don’t think it is RI in the question.
Anyway, for sports DSA, I heard RI will still push them for academics. End up the kid couldn’t pursue the sports at high level either cos RI asked him to buck up his study first. -
DSA outcome will be released via email or snail mail?
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MissPPP\" post_id=\"2115143\" time=\"1690813737\" user_id=\"200335:
Yes I believe it is not common but it does happen, especially in areas they are in need I guess.
Hi it is quite well known that RI will take in top medalists even with weak P5/6 grades for DSA. They are very hungry for the achievements. If the child cannot cope, worse case is to ask to transfer school. Personally know of kids who entered via Sports DSA that obtained 15-18 for actual PSLE. Also known kids with P5 SA2 worse than 17 shortlisted for interviews. It’s really nothing new. Like u, I also wonder why those parents still choose RI and not care about whether the overall fit is there.
Recently at a DSA interview, some current students shared their previous DSA experience with us and I got to know one who scored about AL18 at the time of his DSA, and yet still received CO from RI. He did achieve much better for PSLE though. (He did not choose RI and went for O level prog of another school.) -
Paneermomo\" post_id=\"2115144\" time=\"1690814579\" user_id=\"202162:
Email... some may follow up w a letter...
DSA outcome will be released via email or snail mail? -
From what I have seen in recent years, students who get in top schools via non-academic dsa often do not get enough credit for being strong in BOTH their academic results and their talent dormains. Gone are the days when only medals or ranking matter. The schools’ selection panel needs to not only be accountable to their own school leaders for the CO+WL given, but also to the ministry that they all report to. Of course the top schools will always get a bigger pool of applicants and they can choose the best among them, and since they have a bigger pool of talents to pick from, they pick talented candidates who give the schools less problems in their academics.
For those who had outdated information about past lax dsa requirements and think schools only want the child’s talent but don’t care about their academics, or felt disgruntled because someone else’s kid was selected but not yours - fret not. The selection committee might be doing u and your child a favor by not giving the spot to candidates whom they think can’t cope with the academic rigors + can’t contribute for the talent dormain. Interestingly, more often than not, the cohort that comes in via psle score into these top schools are usually quite multi talented too, thus no lack of talent pool to be honest.
For IP schools with dual track ie o levels, the schools are able to move the students to a different track if deem unsuitable midway. One straightforward way to assess if a “pure” IP school has been effective in their dsa selection - check if there is a need for them to open any o level class in recent years. Granted those who went in by psle score might not make it through too but it gives u an idea of how the school supports their students. Do your own research by asking the right questions.
For those who have the opportunity to progress through the various stages of selection tests or trials/auditions/interviews, hope u and your child have a better idea now on which is a better fit for your child. Personally after seeing so many real life examples of dsa success and failure stories, I can only conclude that the real winners in this dsa “game” are the parents who found the right fit for their child - the school which is able to bring out the best in their child for the next 4-6 years. Good luck. :rahrah: -
MissPPP\" post_id=\"2115143\" time=\"1690813737\" user_id=\"200335:
By achievements I presume it is the DSA domains achievements since we are taking about medals. I am not sure myself too. But how sure are we that top schools like RI care mostly about achievements for the school and not about developing the child in talent domain, academic and character, when they see a potential candidate?
Hi it is quite well known that RI will take in top medalists even with weak P5/6 grades for DSA. They are very hungry for the achievements.
I don’t think MOE’s KPI to the schools put medals number ahead of education outcomes in students -
lassie girl\" post_id=\"2115150\" time=\"1690823267\" user_id=\"35383:[quote=\"lassie girl\" post_id=2115150 time=1690823267 user_id=35383]
Thanks, great to know the info and update myself. Just sharing what I know.
From what I have seen in recent years, students who get in top schools via non-academic dsa often do not get enough credit for being strong in BOTH their academic results and their talent dormains. Gone are the days when only medals or ranking matter. The schools’ selection panel needs to not only be accountable to their own school leaders for the CO+WL given, but also to the ministry that they all report to. Of course the top schools will always get a bigger pool of applicants and they can choose the best among them, and since they have a bigger pool of talents to pick from, they pick talented candidates who give the schools less problems in their academics.
For those who had outdated information about past lax dsa requirements and think schools only want the child’s talent but don’t care about their academics, or felt disgruntled because someone else’s kid was selected but not yours - fret not. The selection committee might be doing u and your child a favor by not giving the spot to candidates whom they think can’t cope with the academic rigors + can’t contribute for the talent dormain. Interestingly, more often than not, the cohort that comes in via psle score into these top schools are usually quite multi talented too, thus no lack of talent pool to be honest.
For IP schools with dual track ie o levels, the schools are able to move the students to a different track if deem unsuitable midway. One straightforward way to assess if a “pure” IP school has been effective in their dsa selection - check if there is a need for them to open any o level class in recent years. Granted those who went in by psle score might not make it through too but it gives u an idea of how the school supports their students. Do your own research by asking the right questions.
For those who have the opportunity to progress through the various stages of selection tests or trials/auditions/interviews, hope u and your child have a better idea now on which is a better fit for your child. Personally after seeing so many real life examples of dsa success and failure stories, I can only conclude that the real winners in this dsa “game” are the parents who found the right fit for their child - the school which is able to bring out the best in their child for the next 4-6 years. Good luck. :rahrah:[/quote]
Though sometimes I do see parents not happy cos their kids are not chosen, but not all. Words about feelings guessing are not necessary. I don’t know if the other parents are really disgruntled or not. 😊
Thanks! -
Winterapple\" post_id=\"2115113\" time=\"1690805120\" user_id=\"131173:
NUSH should be emailing parents this week.
A long wait till 11 Sep is unbearable for the parents and kid. Wonder if any school domain has announced its CO & WL? -
Actually my gripe is not about whether the child is ultimately chosen. But the way some schools conduct auditions / interviews should be proper.
My child attended 3 in 2 schools. First 2 went well, teachers / leaders were very friendly and encouraging as they afforded the full allocated time for the child. Child was also confident things went well for both stages.
However the later school, vibe given to child was like the disinterested teachers were preoccupied and eager to end the session fast and cut short the session in under 10 min.
I get it that maybe the school has identified their targets or someone on the panel instinctively felt the child was not a fit but they should at least at face value give every child they shortlisted their allocated time and not cut short the audition/interview.
For my child this was the last audition of the 2 schools so was not that much affected. I can’t imagine if it was the 1st or only for many kids.
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