Application for NUS/NTU Medicine 2024/2025

[mother777]

lucid\" post_id=\"2133974\" time=\"1715863188\" user_id=\"14312:

You may want to take this into consideration, talk to current and former dentistry students to verify what’s is really on the ground.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/comments/icnijz/uni_why_i_disliked_being_in_nus_dentistry_advice/

If really true, it will be very sad if our kids may have to suffer like that.
Perhaps, not having the WL converted may be a blessing to have dodged a bullet. So please do your own due diligence for the child’s interest.

Wow, I just read this lucid!
Its traumatic to even read and imagine what the young kids are going through for taking a course they wanted to pursue with passion.

Really saddened to hear it's not something new but has been happening for many years. Toxic culture {bullying, calling names, not supporting or ignoring people in need, ostracizing (excluding from group), purposefully failing because they stand out, demoralizing or demeaning behaviors - be it place of study or work} should be weeded out. No student should be left unsupported. My heart goes out to those who suffered or are at present going through this.

My DD wasn't interested in dentistry, but other students who aspire to take dentistry but are deterred because of unsupportive education environment - is absolutely unacceptable.

As parents, what can we do to bring this to limelight - so that the existing and future students do not have to face this again? Will bringing this to local media's attention work?

Wonder if anyone tried to reach out to MOE or the ministers to request an investigation and seek reform..

[mother777]

00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2133838\" time=\"1715665195\" user_id=\"143605:

Thanks for sharing the link. Interesting read... For some, the sharing at Redxxt... may cause more confusion than clarity..... Haha... Either way, it is win win for all.... Those with both offers if reject one, those on waitlist get offered

Was definitely an interesting read and insightful.
For double offer holders - please share which med school you finally chose to firm and accept

[lucid]

To be fair, the dentistry post was 3 years ago and things may have improved, the commentators could be just the disgruntled silver of cohort [what higher ups use to explain away disenchantment].

I think more pertinent to do own due diligence, kick the tyres , talk to students current and former. (Applies to LKC Vs YLL vs UK vs AU)
I did rem my own frens had a hard time in Dentistry and one was held back from graduating when a volunteer patient on a long case treatment ghosted and didn’t turn up. There was no Reddit or Ksp then so we didn’t know the details.

Own kids were never interested in dentistry so it made the scope narrower when looking at universities and courses.
We do recall one open house ( 2022 or 2023) where the dentistry talk was just before or after med so we caught it…
The faculty rep just stood woodenly on stage delivering slides on curriculum and the programme - nothing abt student life, no student rep to speak abt their experiences. No charisma, no heart etc. DS said ”no feel wor “ for both course and career.
Also, my friends in healthcare send their children to AU for dentistry - though I am not sure if they had applied to NUS too.


In life, I tell my kids to watch and observe what people do and then have the intuition and pray hard for wisdom.

[mother777]

lucid\" post_id=\"2133987\" time=\"1715910108\" user_id=\"14312:

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I think more pertinent to do own due diligence, kick the tyres , talk to students current and former. (Applies to LKC Vs YLL vs UK vs AU)
I did rem my own frens had a hard time in Dentistry and one was held back from graduating when a volunteer patient on a long case treatment ghosted and didn’t turn up. There was no Reddit or Ksp then so we didn’t know the details.

Own kids were never interested in dentistry so it made the scope narrower when looking at universities and courses.
We do recall one open house ( 2022 or 2023) where the dentistry talk was just before or after med so we caught it…
The faculty rep just stood woodenly on stage delivering slides on curriculum and the programme - nothing abt student life, no student rep to speak abt their experiences. No charisma, no heart etc. DS said ”no feel wor “ for both course and career.
Also, my friends in healthcare send their children to AU for dentistry - though I am not sure if they had applied to NUS too.


In life, I tell my kids to watch and observe what people do and then have the intuition and pray hard for wisdom.

Lucid, I do honestly pray the situation has improved.

With regards to your statement of friends sending their children to Uk / AUS, the teaching style in Australia is way different than SG. Teachers / professors are more open and receptive to feedback. They encourage children so much. But sometimes too much friendliness backfires - as they cheeky kids can take advantage and misbehave in class.

I have seen the colleges in Australia (Monash, Deakin etc. are like 15 mins from my home). And I visited UK med school as DD had to go for face-to-face interview, the college vibe is entirely different. Everyone from students walking in campus, the cafe, library, admin team is very supportive and full of support. The office admin lady in fact stopped what she was doing and took me on a quick tour of the campus facility when she heard I came all the way from Australia. It's so vibrant and there is so much acceptance on students from different backgrounds. No wonder many prospective students go to UK or AUS if the parents can afford.

But for this to occur in SG, it's not just the faculty - rather the whole society has to change. Us Singaporeans do get caught in our day-to-day life and try to be brisk & efficient in everything we do. Sometimes, this leads us to be just too direct and serious. Now when I return, I see lot less smiles when I walk on SG roads vs what I see in UK/AUS.

May be now when I visited SG and went for a quick walk on the road or just in the lift, people may have thought - \"Who is this mad woman and why is she smiling at me and saying Hello when I don't know her? LOL

Well, I am biased, and I love my SG in all its shades.

It is indeed hard to use someone else's references to gauge. Hope parents and candidates are doing their own due diligence. Definitely go and see the university for own self and talk to existing cohort.

I honestly have not done any research into Dentistry into NUS. But to even imagine the possibility of students being left to fend for themselves to get patients to practice on or for assessment is appalling. Hope this situation has gone. :xedfingers:

[lucid]

Fee schedules for Med school 2024/25 is out.


https://www.ntu.edu.sg/docs/default-source/onestop@sac/tuition-fees-ft_ug_2024_apr2024_v3_7-may.pdf

LKC: 35.55K ( 500 increase?)
LKC students are given iPad and they can opt to top up for other models.
Last years details
https://academic.com.sg/pages/ntu-lkcmedicine-ipad-scheme

https://www.nus.edu.sg/registrar/docs/info/administrative-policies-procedures/ugtuitioncurrent.pdf#page2
YLL: 31.2K (1k increase ?)

Not sure if NUS has iPad scheme, was told it’s upon request. Does anyone have any idea?

Asking as we have to replace a device in the family so good to know what will be provided either school before we confirm an Apple order for home.

[mother777]

Thanks Lucid!

DD was excited to hear about the iPad given at NTU.

For parents with DD/DS going to LKCMed, did you have any further communications after the offer acceptance?
DD just received ONE email yesterday about mandatory health screening to be booked at Fullerton @NTU. Nothing else.

So was wondering if anyone else has updates for LKCMed.

For the candidates with double offers - hope you finished your selection of choice university between NTU/NUS. Good luck 🤞

[tolearntoshare]

Hi mother777


Understand from your post, you and your family are not living in sg. Your daughter is going to ntu hostel. Will she be coming back to sg alone?

[mother777]

tolearntoshare\" post_id=\"2134260\" time=\"1716688499\" user_id=\"159779:

Hi mother777

Understand from your post, you and your family are not living in sg. Your daughter is going to ntu hostel. Will she be coming back to sg alone?

Hi tolerntoshare,

Yes, your understanding is correct. DD will return to SG alone and will be by herself in the hostel.
Work permitting 🤞, I plan to come in for a week to settle her down and buy her essential things. Then she will be on her own in NTU hostel 😓.

I have a younger son who is in the equivalent of Sec 2 studying overseas.
He will return to SG when he finishes his year 12, to join NS. He will have his sister for support during his NS days.

At present, our career and work commitments keep us away. It will surely be decision time for us in 4 years or so.

On one side, DD is pretty excited to be back in SG; while on the other bit nervous to leave family. This is why I was trying to find someone to share her hostel accommodation in twin room.

I keep hearing that the med cohort in NTU is very supportive, and I am praying they help her settle down. DD is smart and down to earth person, but being introvert - sometimes she comes out aloof, while in fact she is craving for meaningful friendships.

As parents, we do our utmost to equip our little birdie for flight away from nest.

[tolearntoshare]

Hi Mother777


Thanks for the info, I’m sure your daughter will do fine. It’s like going overseas for her Uni except she’s back at her own country :). During holidays you can visit each other.

We were in similar situation (deciding to relocate whole family), I chose to continue my children’s education in sg, so I travel to/fro sg.

[lucid]

mother777\" post_id=\"2134261\" time=\"1716690144\" user_id=\"34719:

Hi tolerntoshare,

Yes, your understanding is correct. DD will return to SG alone and will be by herself in the hostel.
As parents, we do our utmost to equip our little birdie for flight away from nest.

For incoming LKC , there’s an official telegram group set up and also, an unofficial by the students who know each other from word of mouth. If you missed the tea session where they gave out the tele links, please contact the school for it. Hope it helps your daughter meet new friends quickly.