123Mum\" post_id=\"2132691\" time=\"1713163547\" user_id=\"204525:

Thanks Lucid, any idea is NUSH recognised for Medicine by the Australian Universities?

I assume you are referring to pre-med. Yes, the students are up the alley as it is the only school in SG which allows them to take triple science, together with math as majors.

Zac’s mum kindly shared specific mention for the diploma for Sydney U. Monash also references NUSHigh diploma https://priorstudy.monash.edu/prior-study/

Secondary Education, Singapore
NATIONAL UNIVERSITY OF SINGAPORE HIGH SCHOOL DIPLOMASecondary Education, Singapore
SINGAPORE CAMBRIDGE GENERAL CERTIFICATE OF EDUCATION (GCE) ADVANCED LEVELS (A LEVEL)

Please see list of universities who hv placed NUSHigh diploma.
https://www.nushigh.edu.sg/admissions/university-placement/university-placement/
Quite a number of the top Aus Unis.

I suppose you will look at UK unis too for MBBS.
Oxford and Cambridge also mentions NUSHigh diploma specifically on their admissions sites - consider only 170 hv this qualification annually.

Scroll to Singapore
Cambridge
https://www.undergraduate.study.cam.ac.uk/international-students/international-entry-requirements
Typical offers for applicants taking the National University of Singapore High School Diploma are made on a case-by-case basis and would be based on achieving a High Distinction, or a Distinction when accompanied by additional qualifications such as APs. Applicants taking the National University of Singapore High School Diploma are encouraged to take relevant subjects to the highest possible level within the Diploma.
Oxford
https://www.ox.ac.uk/admissions/undergraduate/applying-to-oxford/for-international-students/international-qualifications
Status\tQualification
Accepted\tSingapore A-levels with three A grades at H2
Accepted\t NUS High Diploma

For Med,
HKU also comes to town to court the NUSHigh grads to their medical school - I heard that interview is conducted Before inviting them to apply.
They also hv alumni in Seoul University Med. Graduating cohorts maintain a master document who applied where etc so juniors should be able to see this information if they ask the counsellors.

@ceeelle do check the forum link https://forum.kiasuparents.com/topic/95132/nus-high-school-of-mathematics-and-science-diploma/
I find it difficult to navigate this site after the recent revamp. Think less activity now as a result.

There’s usually some cohort wide WhatsApp or Telegram among the parents after PSLE result release.
Carpool is usually private arrangement - many have found workable solutions for morning rides i.e. among the fathers or mother who take turns.

@lucid typo. Class of 2023 For entry into 2024/2025

Update for @123Mum
From what I know of class of 2023 - more or less the same for med school entry in 2023/24
14 in YLL, 5 in LKC and 2-3 overseas
Appears YLL took in more girls (likely as per the entire YLL cohort ) and LKC usually slightly more or balanced with boys.

said in NUS High School of Mathematics and Science (Diploma):

ryka\" post_id=\"2128014\" time=\"1706245438\" user_id=\"9938:

There are 21 students in Medicine from NUSH class of 2022, 11 students in YLL, 8 students in LKC and 2 students overseas. This represent 11% of the cohort, not only a few or small percentage.
And nobody came in their school uniform during white coat ceremony.

11% of cohort will imply 120 each from R and HC if they hv similar acceptance rate.
Numbers for Class of 2023 not known yet.

bbbay\" post_id=\"2134242\" time=\"1716613670\" user_id=\"175278:

This is a reply from another school in the top 4 ranking to my enquiry on DSA students with high AL point coping with their curriculum.

May I check what you consider within the top 4 ranking ?
Thanks

KP\" post_id=\"2134649\" time=\"1717520485\" user_id=\"6874:

yll first round waitlist offer given 3 days to reply.
Lkc 2nd round waitlist offer on 20 Jun, given 5 days to reply by 25 Jun, Admission will push for reply after 3 days.
This year waitlist is tougher

Thank you. Do you mean these dates are from late year, seeing second phase deadline is 18 Jun?
What do you mean by waitlist is tougher ? People are not forgoing the places or there is a longer list so lower probability of getting ?

I would advise to consider the overseas option with good due diligence, especially if the child wants to practise here. Just few years ago, SMC culled 60 schools from the list to bring it down to 100. The good news is they also cull to foreward date the point of expected graduation year so no one already an undergrad is caught out.

https://www.afr.com/policy/health-and-education/singapore-says-no-thanks-to-three-australian-universities-20190428-p51hwd

It is also harder to obtain housemanship or residency placements and can you imagine if you are a graduate from school already culled from the list? I recently met a young doctor from one of the UK med schools which was removed from the list. He said it he was the last “approved” batch, now out as GP. Was told that many turn to aesthetics as it’s the only area that these foreign trained docs can quickly make return on investment given the high outlay from parents and their limited pathways. Money good but what of “passion” to be doctor … still stuck as cog to serve rich tai tais. Seriously, I’d rather my child take CS for the money then if any concern or mindset to get return on investment. SG standard of living is harsh so even the wealthiest of families know that.

My friends who are heading departments actually feedback that while it depends on individual, generally they monitor the tier 2 schools and even Oxbridge addenbrooks (generally more academically focused) don’t give them the clinical rigour or pace to prepare for SG clinical environments. Some period of adjustment is needed and the consultants hv to sign on that they vouch for this foreign trained houseman so few want to do so.
If practising here, then be prepared to do more time as houseman unlike the 1 yr for the local YLL/LKC/DukeNus guys who are already familiar with the SG system. There was a poignant post forwarded to me that employment and deployment of junior doctors are done by MOH Holdings etc some voiced greivances that they feel ( whether valid or not) they were unfairly kept on longer periods before licensing given they had no bond to serve. So talk to overseas returnees and verify their experiences. We also had friends with returning kids who could not find placements in SG hosps as now, SG turns out 500 per year. Around 200 will return to in varying capacities every year coupled with cheap imports from third world country for polyclinics.

My advice is if you do med overseas, to stay away until you obtain the specialist license. Lifestyle in AU is better too. UK is debatable unless you can survive the bankrupt NHS ( extended family were NHS doctors, said no no no please).

mother777\" post_id=\"2134261\" time=\"1716690144\" user_id=\"34719:

Hi tolerntoshare,

Yes, your understanding is correct. DD will return to SG alone and will be by herself in the hostel.
As parents, we do our utmost to equip our little birdie for flight away from nest.

For incoming LKC , there’s an official telegram group set up and also, an unofficial by the students who know each other from word of mouth. If you missed the tea session where they gave out the tele links, please contact the school for it. Hope it helps your daughter meet new friends quickly.

Fee schedules for Med school 2024/25 is out.


https://www.ntu.edu.sg/docs/default-source/onestop@sac/tuition-fees-ft_ug_2024_apr2024_v3_7-may.pdf

LKC: 35.55K ( 500 increase?)
LKC students are given iPad and they can opt to top up for other models.
Last years details
https://academic.com.sg/pages/ntu-lkcmedicine-ipad-scheme

https://www.nus.edu.sg/registrar/docs/info/administrative-policies-procedures/ugtuitioncurrent.pdf#page2
YLL: 31.2K (1k increase ?)

Not sure if NUS has iPad scheme, was told it’s upon request. Does anyone have any idea?

Asking as we have to replace a device in the family so good to know what will be provided either school before we confirm an Apple order for home.

To be fair, the dentistry post was 3 years ago and things may have improved, the commentators could be just the disgruntled silver of cohort [what higher ups use to explain away disenchantment].

I think more pertinent to do own due diligence, kick the tyres , talk to students current and former. (Applies to LKC Vs YLL vs UK vs AU)
I did rem my own frens had a hard time in Dentistry and one was held back from graduating when a volunteer patient on a long case treatment ghosted and didn’t turn up. There was no Reddit or Ksp then so we didn’t know the details.

Own kids were never interested in dentistry so it made the scope narrower when looking at universities and courses.
We do recall one open house ( 2022 or 2023) where the dentistry talk was just before or after med so we caught it…
The faculty rep just stood woodenly on stage delivering slides on curriculum and the programme - nothing abt student life, no student rep to speak abt their experiences. No charisma, no heart etc. DS said ”no feel wor “ for both course and career.
Also, my friends in healthcare send their children to AU for dentistry - though I am not sure if they had applied to NUS too.


In life, I tell my kids to watch and observe what people do and then have the intuition and pray hard for wisdom.

Blue Dolphine\" post_id=\"2133938\" time=\"1715831293\" user_id=\"151369:[quote=\"Blue Dolphine\" post_id=2133938 time=1715831293 user_id=151369]
How about Dentistry waitlist? Do you know roughly how many are in the waitlist each year and what is the chance of getting an offer?[/quote]

You may want to take this into consideration, talk to current and former dentistry students to verify what’s is really on the ground.

https://www.reddit.com/r/SGExams/comments/icnijz/uni_why_i_disliked_being_in_nus_dentistry_advice/

If really true, it will be very sad if our kids may have to suffer like that.
Perhaps, not having the WL converted may be a blessing to have dodged a bullet. So please do your own due diligence for the child’s interest.