Pri 1 child attacked by 5 classmates

[dunnoleh]

3Boys:

... How about helping a fellow parent/child who is struggling with their own issues and manifesting in misbehaviour in schools? Not our problem? It soon will be......

strong deterrent actions will surely help. :lol:

[Daddy D]

dimsum:

My boy is in N2 and was taunted by a K2 boy. He called him names right in front of his parents but guess what, they did not stop or chide him at all!After that, he continued to do that everytime he bumped in my DS. One teacher heard it but pretended as if nothing happened. I asked my DS to feedback to another teacher. Again, no action taken. They probably felt it's a \"trivial\" matter? This is one boy who will become a bully soon.


I asked my DS to ignore him and educated him that name calling is wrong. He understands and bochap him.

Huh? Like tat also can? Anything offensive or just joking?
If offensive, I think you should step in correct the K2 boy in front of his parents then.
I teach my K1 gal to shout \"STOP IT\" if her friends does anything unpleasant to her... dunno whether it works or not.

[Sun_2010]

This is sad.


Makes me wonder how come kids that young have so much aggression? Why did they not feel empathy for the bullied boy? Is it they have been exposed to that form of voilence in life? Isnt it a manefestation of some form of need within them?

As long as that is not addressed , and checked , the problem at best will be postponed. If not in school, they will act out in playground, in a bus, …

As for caning - that will only supress the act. Festering within them till they grow up to a stage when they are bigger and stronger and smarter not to get caught.

Caning is a good deterent - it sends a message all you act like this and you will be punished. It does not remove the cause.

What is very disturbing to me is most of us parents here seem to think along the us(the good kids) vs them (bulies)
Get that bully away from my kid and i could care less what happens to him. Show him who is the boss.

i have a kid who will be going to P1 next year, he is a quite and shy kind of kid - I panic and worry that my kid might be a victim too and i need to have him prepared. But i stop myself and think - no baby is born with a desire to hurt his fellow beings - so what happened here ? Unless there is counselling for the bullies, meeting with the parents to see if they/ home circumstances are partly the cause , and regular followups , I think as a society we fail.

Ltes just remind ourselves it takes a village to raise a child.

[Daddy D]

Sun_2010:

But i stop myself and think - no baby is born with a desire to hurt his fellow beings - so what happened here ? Unless there is counselling for the bullies, meeting with the parents to see if they/ home circumstances are partly the cause , and regular followups , I think as a society we fail.


Ltes just remind ourselves it takes a village to raise a child.

There are many dysfunctional families out there... and their next generation goes down the same path. Society can't help them if they don't help themselves.
Vicious cycle....

[JennyP]

Daddy

dimsum:

My boy is in N2 and was taunted by a K2 boy. He called him names right in front of his parents but guess what, they did not stop or chide him at all!After that, he continued to do that everytime he bumped in my DS. One teacher heard it but pretended as if nothing happened. I asked my DS to feedback to another teacher. Again, no action taken. They probably felt it's a \"trivial\" matter? This is one boy who will become a bully soon.


I asked my DS to ignore him and educated him that name calling is wrong. He understands and bochap him.

Huh? Like tat also can? Anything offensive or just joking?
If offensive, I think you should step in correct the K2 boy in front of his parents then.
I teach my K1 gal to shout \"STOP IT\" if her friends does anything unpleasant to her... dunno whether it works or not.

I think nowadays no parent will take care their child by themselves due to busy on their work, so all of kids depend by maid or grandparent, thus for maid and grandparent, they not really teach him what is right and what is wrong, very sad but the kids is poor things lo. some parent also too pampered their kids, i did meet a incident when i bring my son to playground, one china kid touch my son toy, then my son not allow, then the kid throw my boy toy on floor, i shocked as the grandmother not scold her grandson but still scold my son \" xiao qi\", then i quickly teach my son, never mind, let go back. some time, we think that they still very young, but this thinking is wrong.

[Quintessential Mum]

ksi:

jedamum:

[quote=\"ksi\"]
When there are mixed genders, do children learn how to tolerate better? Just a thought....

My guess is, in a co-ed school, boys that cannot seem to form friendship with other boys can turn to girls for friendship while girls who find other groups of girls to be gossipy and or not their 'kind', can turn to boys for friendship. hence, the chances of being 'alone' is reduced and i think bullies usually don't bother those who move around in groups.

Sounds right jedamum....I am inclined to think that co-ed schools may be good for primary levels to keep the balance in place.[/quote]Not really, i heard of cases in mixed primary schools that the boys actually bully the girls and do all sort of stuff to the girls like lift up their skirts, touch them inappropriately etc especially if they are pretty. FYI, these \"bullies\" are from middle/upper income families and the school is a reputable school in central Singapore. :roll:

[mintcc]

after reading the news also can't help but wonder :?


Where are the teachers? 5 kids beat up another one in school grounds right before assembly and no one stop them?

P1 kid can run out of school during school hours? :!:

Even when I was in P1 many many years ago the school gates are guarded by prefect before assembly and locked after that. There will always be teachers around during assembly

[dunnoleh]

Sun_2010:

... I think as a society we fail.


Ltes just remind ourselves it takes a village to raise a child.

such problems exist in all societies, and we did not fail badly as compared to many others.
I believe this is so partly because of strong deterrent actions taken by the authorities against violent offenders.
With young offenders, administering an early deterrent could save them from a much more painful one in adult life.

[Daddy D]

mintcc:

after reading the news also can't help but wonder :?


Where are the teachers? 5 kids beat up another one in school grounds right before assembly and no one stop them?

P1 kid can run out of school during school hours? :!:

Even when I was in P1 many many years ago the school gates are guarded by prefect before assembly and locked after that. There will always be teachers around during assembly

Perhaps the report is a bit flawed... puzzles me as well.
Can run around in sch and get beaten up... and no teachers around?

[Sun_2010]

dunnoleh:

Sun_2010:

... I think as a society we fail.


Ltes just remind ourselves it takes a village to raise a child.

such problems exist in all societies, and we did not fail badly as compared to many others.
I believe this is so partly because of strong deterrent actions taken by the authorities against violent offenders.
With young offenders, administering an early deterrent could save them from a much more painful one in adult life.

Yeah probably \"fail as a society\" is not right.

We are doing good so far, but these are the cracks that we could fill if only the stakeholders involved introspect a little deeper

What i want to point out is, bad though this incident is it is red flag raised for the community to act, to check. a Deterent is good, in fact essential but is only a part of the solution.

These kids are more likely the ones who will cause greater problems, so correcting them is a selfish act

The wise saying is
\"Spare the rod and spoil the child\"

But do note it did not say the converse
\"Use the rod and the child will turn out alright\"