PSLE 2010 Results Report Here

[mjl]

25hourmaid:

I am not interested in debating on that issue. I just wanted to highlight the fact that the COP of SAP schools INCLUDE the HMT, does not matter whether it is 1, 2 or 3. I rest my case.

Agreed with 25hourmaid totally. Regardless of his trying-very-hard-to-give-original-comments-with-hcl-inclusion-in-cop, verykiasu2010's comments are definitely very misleading to the uninitiated parents.

[jtoh]

verykiasu2010:

25hourmaid:

[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]to clear some misconception posted by some people here.


cut of point for SAP school as published by MOE does not include HCL bonus points. it is the lowest t-score for anyone without HCL to get into that SAP school

if a student has HCL passes, she / he enjoys the benefit of the bonus point, does not imply that the cut-off point of the school is thus lowered by 3 points. it is a reward for doing the extra paper of higher difficulty.

Please get your facts right before giving misleading information to other parents.

Quote from NYGH's website :

3. What are admission criteria for Secondary 1 pupils (via annual posting exercise)?

The cut-off for PSLE T-score, inclusive of bonus points for Higher Mother Tongue, ranged from
262 to 265, in the last 3 years. For AY2010, the cut-off is 263 inclusive of HMT.

so you are saying the actual cut off point for NYGH last year was 260 ?

so tell me, is it inclusive of 1 or 2 or 3 points ? The 263 is inclusive of 1 or 2 or 3 points ?

in the briefing for parents last Thursday, it is stated very clearing that if the cut off point is 263, what it means is that anyone without HCL needs 263 to enter, and anyone with 262 plus HCL pass can enter, or anyone with 261 plus HCL merit pass can enter, or 260 with HCL distinction can enter.

so, if you don't have HCL, you need 263 to enter. THAT IS the cut off point. I got my facts right. It is NOT misleading. You get a discount if you have HCL. Read my post carefully first[/quote]Hi vk2010,

Both you and 25hr maid are working on the same set of facts but the interpretation is different. Maybe a re-phrasing of the statement would make more sense. Let me explain.

The COP for NYGH is 263. Which means that if you do not have HMT, you would have had to score 263 to get into NYGH. If you did have HMT, your score would have been 262+1, 261+2 or 260+3. So the lowest score of someone entering NYGH last year during the S1 posting exercise was 260 (IF you do not take HMT into account.) I believe we agree on this.

So yes, the COP is 263 (including HMT). But actual scores of the students getting into NYGH could be 260 (minus HMT).

Perhaps it's how we phrase it. Official COP of NYGH = 263.
BUT actual score of last student entering NYGH at S1 posting could be 260.

[sall]

atutor2001:

sall:

..... Most important of all, she likes the sch so much. We spent almost 4 hrs at the open house, so you can see how much she likes the sch :lol: What about your child?

I have very good opinion of RV. Many of their students after joining RJ goes on to be among the top. However, just a point to consider :

RV has gone IP and it is not easy to switch school at JC unless among top 20. Therefore, if she subsequently think of switching to HCI or RI, it might not be possible. So the choice now, can decide her JC.

Well, it's a 6 yr prog, so they don't need to switch to another JC, right? :?

[iikengkeng]

jtoh:

verykiasu2010:

[quote=\"25hourmaid\"]
Please get your facts right before giving misleading information to other parents.

Quote from NYGH's website :

3. What are admission criteria for Secondary 1 pupils (via annual posting exercise)?

The cut-off for PSLE T-score, inclusive of bonus points for Higher Mother Tongue, ranged from
262 to 265, in the last 3 years. For AY2010, the cut-off is 263 inclusive of HMT.

so you are saying the actual cut off point for NYGH last year was 260 ?

so tell me, is it inclusive of 1 or 2 or 3 points ? The 263 is inclusive of 1 or 2 or 3 points ?

in the briefing for parents last Thursday, it is stated very clearing that if the cut off point is 263, what it means is that anyone without HCL needs 263 to enter, and anyone with 262 plus HCL pass can enter, or anyone with 261 plus HCL merit pass can enter, or 260 with HCL distinction can enter.

so, if you don't have HCL, you need 263 to enter. THAT IS the cut off point. I got my facts right. It is NOT misleading. You get a discount if you have HCL. Read my post carefully first

Hi vk2010,

Both you and 25hr maid are working on the same set of facts but the interpretation is different. Maybe a re-phrasing of the statement would make more sense. Let me explain.

The COP for NYGH is 263. Which means that if you do not have HMT, you would have had to score 263 to get into NYGH. If you did have HMT, your score would have been 262+1, 261+2 or 260+3. So the lowest score of someone entering NYGH last year during the S1 posting exercise was 260 (IF you do not take HMT into account.) I believe we agree on this.

So yes, the COP is 263 (including HMT). But actual scores of the students getting into NYGH could be 260 (minus HMT).

Perhaps it's how we phrase it. Official COP of NYGH = 263.
BUT actual score of last student entering NYGH at S1 posting could be 260.[/quote]Let me share my findings with the Anglican High's office:

Where ranking COP, MOE will not take HMT into account.
If the last COP eligible to enter Anglican is say 240, then those with 3 pt from HMT will have priority over those with 2 and those with 1 and those without HMT.

So from this info (assuming the administrator is correct), it would imply that the COP does not include HMT.

This is just my humble opinion. Plse correct me if I'm wrong.

[verykiasu2010]

jtoh:

verykiasu2010:

[quote=\"25hourmaid\"]
Please get your facts right before giving misleading information to other parents.

Quote from NYGH's website :

3. What are admission criteria for Secondary 1 pupils (via annual posting exercise)?

The cut-off for PSLE T-score, inclusive of bonus points for Higher Mother Tongue, ranged from
262 to 265, in the last 3 years. For AY2010, the cut-off is 263 inclusive of HMT.

so you are saying the actual cut off point for NYGH last year was 260 ?

so tell me, is it inclusive of 1 or 2 or 3 points ? The 263 is inclusive of 1 or 2 or 3 points ?

in the briefing for parents last Thursday, it is stated very clearing that if the cut off point is 263, what it means is that anyone without HCL needs 263 to enter, and anyone with 262 plus HCL pass can enter, or anyone with 261 plus HCL merit pass can enter, or 260 with HCL distinction can enter.

so, if you don't have HCL, you need 263 to enter. THAT IS the cut off point. I got my facts right. It is NOT misleading. You get a discount if you have HCL. Read my post carefully first

Hi vk2010,

Both you and 25hr maid are working on the same set of facts but the interpretation is different. Maybe a re-phrasing of the statement would make more sense. Let me explain.

The COP for NYGH is 263. Which means that if you do not have HMT, you would have had to score 263 to get into NYGH. If you did have HMT, your score would have been 262+1, 261+2 or 260+3. So the lowest score of someone entering NYGH last year during the S1 posting exercise was 260 (IF you do not take HMT into account.) I believe we agree on this.

So yes, the COP is 263 (including HMT). But actual scores of the students getting into NYGH could be 260 (minus HMT).

Perhaps it's how we phrase it. Official COP of NYGH = 263.
BUT actual score of last student entering NYGH at S1 posting could be 260.[/quote]You are right

Just a matter of phrasing. Someone even highlighted it but slammed me for misleading. Nonsense. Couldn't she read that I was mentioning \"it is the lowest t-score for anyone without HCL to get into that SAP school\" ?

[jtoh]

iikengkeng:

jtoh:

[quote=\"verykiasu2010\"]
so you are saying the actual cut off point for NYGH last year was 260 ?

so tell me, is it inclusive of 1 or 2 or 3 points ? The 263 is inclusive of 1 or 2 or 3 points ?

in the briefing for parents last Thursday, it is stated very clearing that if the cut off point is 263, what it means is that anyone without HCL needs 263 to enter, and anyone with 262 plus HCL pass can enter, or anyone with 261 plus HCL merit pass can enter, or 260 with HCL distinction can enter.

so, if you don't have HCL, you need 263 to enter. THAT IS the cut off point. I got my facts right. It is NOT misleading. You get a discount if you have HCL. Read my post carefully first

Hi vk2010,

Both you and 25hr maid are working on the same set of facts but the interpretation is different. Maybe a re-phrasing of the statement would make more sense. Let me explain.

The COP for NYGH is 263. Which means that if you do not have HMT, you would have had to score 263 to get into NYGH. If you did have HMT, your score would have been 262+1, 261+2 or 260+3. So the lowest score of someone entering NYGH last year during the S1 posting exercise was 260 (IF you do not take HMT into account.) I believe we agree on this.

So yes, the COP is 263 (including HMT). But actual scores of the students getting into NYGH could be 260 (minus HMT).

Perhaps it's how we phrase it. Official COP of NYGH = 263.
BUT actual score of last student entering NYGH at S1 posting could be 260.

Let me share my findings with the Anglican High's office:

Where ranking COP, MOE will not take HMT into account.
If the last few COP eligible to enter Anglican is say 240, then those with 3 pt from HMT will have priority over those with 2 and those with 1 and those without HMT.

So from this info (assuming the administrator is correct), it would imply that the COP does not include HMT.

This is just my humble opinion. Plse correct me if I'm wrong.[/quote]Hi there. Just wanted to say that your interpretation is not correct. The COP DOES include bonus points. When MOE lists the COP, that's the score of the last student entering the school. That student could have scored 263, 262+1, 261+2 or 260+3. Because it is a SAP school, the child with 260+3 is able to use his bonus points and hence his score is now 263. However, his ACTUAL score is only 260 as stated in his PSLE slip.

It is stated in the NYGH website, as quoted by 25hrmaid, that the COP includes HMT bonus points. I have also heard it for myself from the principal that it includes HMT bonus points.

[sall]

Lynn2:

Hello,


My neighbour's son scored 251 for psle.He is thinking of NUS high, NJC and RI.

Can I know which school is within this cop for school that is in the east and central?thank you.

Too risky to apply for the 3 schs mentioned. Their COP are much higher than 251.

[sall]

justsay:

loler12:

[quote=\"noob\"]
My dd classmate had 248 +2 got in after appeal last year.

I am shocked to hear that. Oh well, that's too bad. I have another friend of mine who's daughter score 248 + 2 and tried appealing into RV, but got rejected too. I wonder why ?

DD in RVH. Heard some of her friends got in with 250 after appeal. Some with 251 were rejected. I guess the school doesn't just look at T-score alone.[/quote]I believe they look at students with outstanding CCA performance as well.

[sall]

ksfaith:

sall:

[quote=\"WeiHan\"]Sall,


What is your girl t-score?

270 with distinction for HCL. A lot of people is against me applying for RV, but I have a very gd feeling and impression of this sch, especially after visiting the sch on 27/11/10. Did you attend the RV open house?

Hmm, I did ask you earlier on, but from the school that you choose i presume you are staying in the east. Hence, No doubt RV is a good school. But do consider the distance, its a 6 years commitment[/quote]I'm staying around Redhill area

[jtoh]

verykiasu2010:

You are right

Just a matter of phrasing. Someone even highlighted it but slammed me for misleading. Nonsense. Couldn't she read that I was mentioning \"it is the lowest t-score for anyone without HCL to get into that SAP school\" ?

Hi vk2010,

Don't get too worked up over this. We are all parents here to share what we know.

When I first read your initial post, I too felt that it was misleading because it said \"cut of point for SAP school as published by MOE does not include HCL bonus points. it is the lowest t-score for anyone without HCL to get into that SAP school.\"

It's the first sentence that is not correct because MOE DOES include HCL bonus points.

So a simple rephrasing does help clear up the air for all parents I hope.
Official COP (inclusive of HMT) = 263.
Actual score of last student entering NYGH could be 260.