Angry motorists pull no punches on traffic wardens
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Laura02:
if you did not violate traffic rules and got a summon, then it implies the the law have been unjust?
I did not violate traffice rules. The was no yellow line where I parked. The yellow line was drawn on the road behind where I parked.
And what difference does it make whether the engine was on of off. Is it better to leave the engine on while the car is stationary? Yes, go ahead and send carbon monoxide into the environment.
There's no need to rude and offensive.
And, which part of my post is rude and offensive? I'm just stating facts. -
Imami:
Do you feel that my post is rude and vulgar?
chill chill... Laura :hugs:Laura02:
Lim lim, I was going to post a an angry reply, but I shall not stoop to your level of rudeness and vulgarity.
What goes around, comes around.
Have a good day. -
limlim:
Do you feel that my post is rude and vulgar?[/quote]Lim lim San, from the perspective of language use, in ksp - broadly speaking, there are two groups - the very prim and proper, England very powderful. And then there are the singlish street language kind. To me, laura is group 1 - proper one. U r the second group.
chill chill... Laura :hugs:Imami:
[quote=\"Laura02\"]Lim lim, I was going to post a an angry reply, but I shall not stoop to your level of rudeness and vulgarity.
What goes around, comes around.
Have a good day.
Not everyone knows each other's style well. I \"know\" u enough and I don't think u meant it the foul way. But Laura may not know u enough.
Ok lah, ok lah, I also :hugs: u. -
limlim:
Limlim San, I think it is the \"suck it up\" that is causing the prob. I think u just mean \"accept it\".
You violated traffic rules what more do you want to say?Laura02:
Yes, TP are nicer. I also feel that traffic wardens of the past, like 5-10 yr ago also nicer. Then, they would walk around the car, look around to see if anyone rushing up to the car first, then take out pen and paper to write summon. And, like Imami, you rush up to the warden in time to plead your case, they would just give a stern warning.
Now, the wardens seem to just su kak, su kak issue summon, then say not happy go appeal lor! I was issued with a summon for parking in front of the yellow line. Call up to complain and was told that cannot park 6m in front of the yellow line! My friend who owns a convenience store was summoned for parking in the loading and unloading bay by her shop! She had just unloaded some goods to the shop and was already returning to the car when the warden came. She asked the warden why summon, and the warden said because no one was in the car!
I think there will be fewer incidences of violence towards traffice wardens if they were nicer. most of us will accept that we have to pay a fine if we genuinely violated the traffic rules. Yes, the rules say \" ...\" but the people who enforce the rules should try to temper justice with mercy, and season it with humor.
That, I feel, is where Singapore is now heading dangerously towards. Take for example, that newly opened New Zealand restaurant whose staff spontaneously broke into the Hakka dance on the sidewalk outside its shop. Yes, there are rules that you cannot hold a public performance without prior approval. Yes, they probably did plan some stunt, ... but, ... Oh, you know, a little bit of leeway should be allowed.
If rules are not enforced, what is the point of setting rules? Like have non-smoking rule and yet everyone smoking everywhere.. obviously NEA or ENV not doing their job.
Leeway should be given only in real emergencies.. not to be abused. By violating traffic rules, some way or the other, you are potentially causing inconvenience to others, do you realize that? rules are there for a reason.
For your friend's case, is the engine on or off? if no driver, means it is being parked (even for 1 min).. no excuses.
Why some pple just cannot learn to abide by the rules..
If you get away, it's a bonus, if not, just suck it up.. why blame the wardens doing their job? -
limlim:
I am not complaining that the law is unjust. In this case, there was no line, white, yellow or otherwise, or for that matter any other marking on the road beyond that said yellow line that terminated behind where I parked my car. Nor is it a single lane road, two cars can comfortably pass one another on that road, even three at a stretch. There are no lane marking on the road, neither are there directional markings, though all cars only drive in one direction on that road because of the way leading in. Maybe somebody forgot, or instructions were not carried out, or the persons who did the road markings just blindly follow without fully understanding what they were suppose to do. That, I find, is a common failing in many who have gone through an Asian education system.
if you did not violate traffic rules and got a summon, then it implies the the law have been unjust?
And, which part of my post is rude and offensive? I'm just stating facts.
Whatever the reason, I saw a number of cars parked at that same place when I drove past yesterday. So I'm not the only one who has assumed that no marking on the road = can park.
What I'm trying to say is that the persons who are supposed to enforce the law, in this case, traffic wardens, do not know their law (in this case, the highway code). This, I find, is one of the most frustrating aspects of dealing with singapore's bureaucracy.
BTW your reply suggests and implies several interesting scenarios when you comment on leaving the car engines running while the car is stationary.
Imami is right. In this case, there was a misunderstanding of what the term \"suck it up\" ment. It can be an incredibly insulting and demeaning term. And the tone of your reply certainly implied a belligerent stance.
In the same vein, I often cringe when I hear adults urging little toddlers to do a \" French kiss\". I know some French people. They are funny, friendly, warm people who do, indeed, hug and kiss each other on the cheek in greeting. But I'm sure that even they would shudder in horror at the thought of a toddler performing a \"French kiss\". The correct term here is \"blow a kiss\". I leave you with The Merriam -Webster dictionary definition of \"French kiss\" : \"a passionate kiss with the lips parted and the tongues touching.\" -
Imami:
suck it up as in LLST..
Limlim San, I think it is the \"suck it up\" that is causing the prob. I think u just mean \"accept it\".
LLST is vulgar? -
blunt… yes… but rude… is more subjective.
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limlim:
Oh limlim, must I be explicit? Think of a part of your body that goes up when sucked upon. That's why its so vulgar. Please do not use it when talking to Ang Mo nang.
suck it up as in LLST..Imami:
Limlim San, I think it is the \"suck it up\" that is causing the prob. I think u just mean \"accept it\".
LLST is vulgar?
Imami is right. I do not know the acronym LLST ... -
Singapore roads : don’t do anything unless it is expressly sign-posted permissible
other countries : can do anything unless expressly sign-posted prohibitions
eg, no u-turn, no stopping, no parking, -
limlim:
What is LLST? Aiya…. U don’t test me la, so many short form…
suck it up as in LLST..Imami:
Limlim San, I think it is the \"suck it up\" that is causing the prob. I think u just mean \"accept it\".
LLST is vulgar?
Limlim, I am sure u understand, forums have different sort of members. Not everyone can take casual/street language/singlish, even if that person is a local. by the different side of the coin, some non-locals can take our kind of language. Don’t take it too personally. We still love the chameleon or frog….
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