GEP Preparatory Program
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pek.taxi:
besides identifying the top 1% to be the GEP, the next 4% are given \"differentiated program\" in having more enrichment modules pull out from GEP curriculum for them, some GEP schools have specific High Ability (HA) classes that cater for these kidsbaobei:
Hmm does that mean GEP student must be good academically to pass te screening test before having a chance to prove that they can do more since they would not be given a chance to go for selection test without passing the screening?
Besides the screening test, maybe MOE should also consider recommendations by school as another avenue to select students for further tests. However, then the school should be provided with some knowledge to identify the right candidates.
there is a reason why GEP school continue to be popular and this is one of the reason. the HA class thingy is an initiative from MOE/GEB that provides more learning opportunities to the highly able kids academically -
verykiasu2010:
besides identifying the top 1% to be the GEP, the next 4% are given \"differentiated program\" in having more enrichment modules pull out from GEP curriculum for them, some GEP schools have specific High Ability (HA) classes that cater for these kidspek.taxi:
[quote=\"baobei\"]Hmm does that mean GEP student must be good academically to pass te screening test before having a chance to prove that they can do more since they would not be given a chance to go for selection test without passing the screening?
Besides the screening test, maybe MOE should also consider recommendations by school as another avenue to select students for further tests. However, then the school should be provided with some knowledge to identify the right candidates.
there is a reason why GEP school continue to be popular and this is one of the reason. the HA class thingy is an initiative from MOE/GEB that provides more learning opportunities to the highly able kids academically[/quote]That is true, but it only applies to GEP primary schools. For the 2nd-5th% percentile of children who are in non-GEP schools, differentiated programs may not / do not exist for these kids. (Although I do concede that most schools do stream the children in some way or other, but the top classes I believe do not take guidance from the MOE/GEB) So the HA kids in GEP primary schools are given 'more learning opportunities' in some way - at the very least, interaction with GEP kids. That's another reason why GEP primary schools are very highly sought after by parents. -
ezmummy:
It is indeed top 1% base on the GEP test. Those who are strong in Math & English have advantages. Since MT in not included, those who are weak in MT will not have disadvantage. However, they have to do HMT if they are selected for GEP.actually I won't say that the GEPpers are top 1% of the cohort. Son wasn't even top 10 in his school, he still got in.
I personally find that GEPpers are naturally inquisitive and driven in the search for knowledge. If your child is already such, you probably don't even have to send him/her to any courses and he/she will be selected base on his/her own merit.
OTOH, sending courses and too many enrichment classes may actually backfire, quenching his natural thirst to learn.
That's jmho.
Oh, btw, I didn't send son for prep course. -
mummy so kiasu:
HMT? That will be tough. Thanks for the info.
It is indeed top 1% base on the GEP test. Those who are strong in Math & English have advantages. Since MT in not included, those who are weak in MT will not have disadvantage. However, they have to do HMT if they are selected for GEP.ezmummy:
actually I won't say that the GEPpers are top 1% of the cohort. Son wasn't even top 10 in his school, he still got in.
I personally find that GEPpers are naturally inquisitive and driven in the search for knowledge. If your child is already such, you probably don't even have to send him/her to any courses and he/she will be selected base on his/her own merit.
OTOH, sending courses and too many enrichment classes may actually backfire, quenching his natural thirst to learn.
That's jmho.
Oh, btw, I didn't send son for prep course. -
zakashi:
Not compulsory to do HMT lah (at least I know that is true at ACS Pri GEP, not sure about the other centres though).
HMT? That will be tough. Thanks for the info.mummy so kiasu:
It is indeed top 1% base on the GEP test. Those who are strong in Math & English have advantages. Since MT in not included, those who are weak in MT will not have disadvantage. However, they have to do HMT if they are selected for GEP. -
keroppi:
Not compulsory to do HMT lah (at least I know that is true at ACS Pri GEP, not sure about the other centres though).[/quote]What a relief!
HMT? That will be tough. Thanks for the info.zakashi:
[quote=\"mummy so kiasu\"]
It is indeed top 1% base on the GEP test. Those who are strong in Math & English have advantages. Since MT in not included, those who are weak in MT will not have disadvantage. However, they have to do HMT if they are selected for GEP. -
I am totally against GEP prep classes.
It seems that some parents seem to have a misconception that once the child makes it to GEP, he will be assured of a DSA offer to a top school and of the EESIS scholarship. Many parents seem very interested to get their children into GEP.
As many GE parents have pointed out, the GE program is very rigorous and demanding. Most GE kids have to work very hard from primary 4 to 6 to maintain the GE status and earn that DSA offer. The GEP is not a walk in the park.
In my DS’s school GE cohort, there is a small handful of kids who struggle with the GE program. They perform below the rest, below the benchmark and sometimes below 50% from P4 to 6, in spite of numerous tuition. When it came to DSA, I heard one didn’t apply - there was no point. A few were brought for many DSA tests and interviews ( some schools did not even offer an interview ), but were rejected. I empathize with them … and their parents. The kids are not enjoying their childhood and could develop a low self esteem, in my opinion.
Then to top it off, the GE teachers start preparing them for PSLE only in July ( which is the norm for the GE curriculum). I understand that they did not do well, I heard one of them scored 22x for PSLE.
Whilst I do not know whether these kids were sent for GEP prep classes, the parents had the financial means, but I believe that they could have done better in PSLE and have a better choice of secondary school if they had not joined the GEP. -
KSmom8:
I thought quite a number of GEP students scored very well in 2012 PSLE. :?I am totally against GEP prep classes.
It seems that some parents seem to have a misconception that once the child makes it to GEP, he will be assured of a DSA offer to a top school and of the EESIS scholarship. Many parents seem very interested to get their children into GEP.
As many GE parents have pointed out, the GE program is very rigorous and demanding. Most GE kids have to work very hard from primary 4 to 6 to maintain the GE status and earn that DSA offer. The GEP is not a walk in the park.
In my DS's school GE cohort, there is a small handful of kids who struggle with the GE program. They perform below the rest, below the benchmark and sometimes below 50% from P4 to 6, in spite of numerous tuition. When it came to DSA, I heard one didn't apply - there was no point. A few were brought for many DSA tests and interviews ( some schools did not even offer an interview ), but were rejected. I empathize with them ... and their parents. The kids are not enjoying their childhood and could develop a low self esteem, in my opinion.
Then to top it off, the GE teachers start preparing them for PSLE only in July ( which is the norm for the GE curriculum). I understand that they did not do well, I heard one of them scored 22x for PSLE.
Whilst I do not know whether these kids were sent for GEP prep classes, the parents had the financial means, but I believe that they could have done better in PSLE and have a better choice of secondary school if they had not joined the GEP. -
Err.. majority GEP kids are doing well la.. As you rightfully pointed out, only a small handful of kids who are struggling with the GE program la
At the end of the day, parental supports (e.g. monetary or direct helps) are crucial to do well in GEP. Some of them are even paying (can dump many thousands) to get someone to write reports or do their perceived useless social studies works
Those kids who did not perform are not getting rigorous supports (no money from parents and their parents can't help la) from parents la..
You are outdated la... majority of the kids have gone for prep classes to make it for GEP program nowadays.. In my dc' school, I have not heard a kid who does not go for tuition/prep/enrichment classes but still make it. Almost 100% of them have attended some kind of \"classes\" de. :yikes: Also, almost all of them has at least 1 SAHP. What does it tell us? :evil:
Aiya, mainstreams are also preparing PSLE in Jul too. Are you saying that MOE should let GEP kids to prepare PSLE earlier than mainstreams?
KSmom8:
I am totally against GEP prep classes.
It seems that some parents seem to have a misconception that once the child makes it to GEP, he will be assured of a DSA offer to a top school and of the EESIS scholarship. Many parents seem very interested to get their children into GEP.
As many GE parents have pointed out, the GE program is very rigorous and demanding. Most GE kids have to work very hard from primary 4 to 6 to maintain the GE status and earn that DSA offer. The GEP is not a walk in the park.
In my DS's school GE cohort, there is a small handful of kids who struggle with the GE program. They perform below the rest, below the benchmark and sometimes below 50% from P4 to 6, in spite of numerous tuition. When it came to DSA, I heard one didn't apply - there was no point. A few were brought for many DSA tests and interviews ( some schools did not even offer an interview ), but were rejected. I empathize with them ... and their parents. The kids are not enjoying their childhood and could develop a low self esteem, in my opinion.
Then to top it off, the GE teachers start preparing them for PSLE only in July ( which is the norm for the GE curriculum). I understand that they did not do well, I heard one of them scored 22x for PSLE.
Whilst I do not know whether these kids were sent for GEP prep classes, the parents had the financial means, but I believe that they could have done better in PSLE and have a better choice of secondary school if they had not joined the GEP. -
zakashi:
Yes. If you have read some postings before, you will know that GEP kids are prepared better than mainstreams for PSLE and hence score better in PSLE simply because there are more HOT questions nowadays that GEP kids are exposed more than mainstreams'.
I thought quite a number of GEP students scored very well in 2012 PSLE. :?KSmom8:
I am totally against GEP prep classes.
It seems that some parents seem to have a misconception that once the child makes it to GEP, he will be assured of a DSA offer to a top school and of the EESIS scholarship. Many parents seem very interested to get their children into GEP.
As many GE parents have pointed out, the GE program is very rigorous and demanding. Most GE kids have to work very hard from primary 4 to 6 to maintain the GE status and earn that DSA offer. The GEP is not a walk in the park.
In my DS's school GE cohort, there is a small handful of kids who struggle with the GE program. They perform below the rest, below the benchmark and sometimes below 50% from P4 to 6, in spite of numerous tuition. When it came to DSA, I heard one didn't apply - there was no point. A few were brought for many DSA tests and interviews ( some schools did not even offer an interview ), but were rejected. I empathize with them ... and their parents. The kids are not enjoying their childhood and could develop a low self esteem, in my opinion.
Then to top it off, the GE teachers start preparing them for PSLE only in July ( which is the norm for the GE curriculum). I understand that they did not do well, I heard one of them scored 22x for PSLE.
Whilst I do not know whether these kids were sent for GEP prep classes, the parents had the financial means, but I believe that they could have done better in PSLE and have a better choice of secondary school if they had not joined the GEP.
C'mon, we all have gone through schooling before and knew very well that top 20% are more or less can make it. Only those who are motivated to work hard that make a difference between top 1% and 20% la. Only 1 in a million is a real genius! Albert Einstein is one in a few billion in a few decade too :yikes:
When I looked back now, most of the kids who did very well in primary schools were faded away in secondary school la. Those late bloomers were the one who can sustain and made it to the Uni and all the way to PhD.
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