stetan\" post_id=\"1900850\" time=\"1551595927\" user_id=\"3358:

Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900836\" time=\"1551591527\" user_id=\"153793:

Chill....ok, lets take a subject that has big enrolment eg H2 Econ.
DHS 66% A
Vjc 58.3%A
RV 58%A
You check out EJC Econ A % passes.
If compared to Mid Tier JC, its good.
But with other JCs...

Dear, you said ALL subjects, not only Econs, right ? and only with DHS,VJC,RV ?

Wah Lau, incomplete data lah....and you based your conclusion on this only?

You are a joke, grandma. You just lost your creditbility

i dont need you to give me creditbility.
My point of showing Econ % is to show you that EJC did well but not \" very well\" until it value added more than single digit JCs like what your EJCian parents claimed.
Most of you dont have the full data of EJC results yet can deduce EJC has done \"very well\". Based your \"very good\" conclusion on ??
82.4RP is good but not better than top tier JCs eg NJC- NJC RP cant be lowered from 84.4 to below 82.4 mah.

Don't talk so much hot air.


1. Show ALL the subjects result you \"claim to have\" have for EJC
2. Show ALL the subjects results for the other JCs

Then we can see the actual comparison and whether you are just fabricateing stories

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Chill....ok, lets take a subject that has big enrolment eg H2 Econ.
DHS 66% A
Vjc 58.3%A
RV 58%A
You check out EJC Econ A % passes.
If compared to Mid Tier JC, its good.
But with other JCs...

thsheng99\" post_id=\"1900807\" time=\"1551578996\" user_id=\"37400:

obm\" post_id=\"1900781\" time=\"1551540930\" user_id=\"162988:

'Curious' until you had to sneak into other JC's hall on results day to snap pictures of other JC's slides? I cannot believe this. But why? What are you trying to prove? Prove that your granddaughter made the right choice?

. I recall 2 years ago, one fanatic even sneaked into EJC Open House to look at the gym. Goodness, poor Eunoia. So many creepy and curious people stalking your JC.

Yes. I remember the sneaking into the gym of EJC incidence. That was by mindays who was eyeing NYJC for his child.
This Grandyma bears great resemblance to minday. :evil:
Her granddaughter in NYJC ? No wonder she is so upset about EJC's good performance.

Me not upset.😉
Already said other than AC n TJ, other top tier JCs including NJC did better.

lee_yl\" post_id=\"1900789\" time=\"1551575282\" user_id=\"17023:

Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900782\" time=\"1551542208\" user_id=\"153793:

Delete.

Wa, you deleted your post very fast hor. Anyway, I read it.

I don’t understand your mindset, if EJC parents feel that the Pioneer batch students and Teachers had produced good results (despite facing teething challenges as a brand new JC), and comment that the school has done “very well”, why must you react in such a manner?

Your “grand Daughter” is in another JC. If EJC parents are happy and feel happy for the school, 关你屁事！ As an outsider, who are you to say, EJC parents shouldn’t say “very well”?

We are all educated, we all know how to read numbers, so pls stop repeating yourself like a broken record.

I deleted as I was repeating my answer which was: i have EJC subjects grades and NJC Medium and RP better....
Also I didnt sneak into EJC hahaaa
EJC did well...not \" very well\"- dont mislead the public. its true.
If EJC can work on its Sciences more and CSC , with its IP students calibre, Im sure it will do \"very well\".
Ah, it did very well for Arts -80% A.

Delete.

stetan\" post_id=\"1900774\" time=\"1551535023\" user_id=\"3358:

Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900768\" time=\"1551530832\" user_id=\"153793:

Ah yoh, dont like that say me lei....
Yr EJC Thsheng99 said EJC is more value added than other single digit JCs mah....isnt this comparing of JCs?
I curious which JCs mah

Yes. I do agree with what thsheng99 say. She has already shown you the comparison of COP vs UAS. Perhaps you would like to enlighten us which JC your child or grandchild went and we can make you happy by doing a detailed analysis between the JCs?

Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900768\" time=\"1551530832\" user_id=\"153793:

I have EJC all subjects % A performance.
Yes, EJC has done well...i support hor...but not what you EJCian parents say \" very good\".

ALL subjects ? You are serious or just being senile ?

Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900768\" time=\"1551530832\" user_id=\"153793:

ACJC and TJC UAS better ??? You are spouting nonsense.
NJC UAS figure is median, not mean. Do you know the difference between median and mean?

Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900768\" time=\"1551530832\" user_id=\"153793:[quote=Grandyma post_id=1900768 time=1551530832 user_id=153793]EJC results didnt do better than the rest of the top tier JCs lei...

Which JC lei?

Yes, I have EJC all subjects % A.
I said ACJC and TJC RP not better than EJC.
NJC Medium 84.4 , so RP cant be lower than 82.4, right. Then NJC did better than EJC since I was asked.

lee_yl\" post_id=\"1900770\" time=\"1551532089\" user_id=\"17023:

The first batch EJC students took their A levels at a temporary site.

Tell me why many preferred to join an established JC rather than a new JC? The pioneer batch did not have any seniors to guide them or pass them any revision notes. I salute those Teachers who left RI to join a new JC. New staff also need time to settle down. There are many teething challenges in a new JC.

“Very good” is all relative. Because it is EJC’s first A level exam, and had to be taken at a temporary site, due credit should be given. Unless you can dig out all the other JCs’ first time A level results and tabulate into a chart for normalised comparison, then we can dissect EJC’s performance further.

Ah, the \"very good\" results by EJC that EJCian parents claimed is partly based on the teething challenges that first batch students went through and not entirely based from EJC A level results.
Ok, credit should go to staff and students.
But redeployment of staff is decided by MOE right and not by teachers, right?

thsheng99\" post_id=\"1900767\" time=\"1551530591\" user_id=\"37400:

Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900681\" time=\"1551502701\" user_id=\"153793:

\" With a mean UAS of 82.x, taking into accounr its COP was 10 previously, it is really value-adding compared to the other JCs whose COP was single digit\"
Which JCs are you refering lei??

Which JC do you think I was referring to ? The JC that your daughter/granddaughter went ?

Idk lah...but no comparing hmmm......naughty naughty..

obm\" post_id=\"1900698\" time=\"1551507525\" user_id=\"162988:

Hi Grandyma
I think it's more important how your granddaughter did, rather than how other people's grandchildren or children did, isn't it?

I can totally understand why PSLE parents are checking out JCs' Mean UAS, subject combi as they're shopping for DSA-sec schools. I can also understand why parents of upper secondary school children are concerned about JC subject performances as they're going to pick combis or have already picked their combi and so are keen to suss out the standard of the seniors and respective depts' performance vz the national standard for planning purposes.

But for you whose granddaughter who was from Class of 2017, what is your main objective for doing this?

How did your granddaughter or daughter fare last year? Is she is one of the 1 in 7, or 1 in 5, as announced by her Principal? Is she happy with her results?

I put it to you that you're just feeling insecure, concerned that your granddaughter or daughter's A level cert value will drop if her JC is one day out-ranked or outperformed by another nearby JC.

Please rest assured, Ah Ma, that GCE Cambridge's As, Bs or Cs will not devalue even if your Singapore JC's Mean UAS drop or rise in the future. What's important is that your granddaughter or daughter gets into her desired university and gets a good job. Also, PSC, local unis look at her UAS, not which famous JC she comes from. Likewise, employers don't care about JC UAS or ranking. A humble person from a mid-tier JC with As/ Bs may sometimes get the job instead of another haughty person from a top-tier JC with straight As all his life.

So, please stop worrying about your granddaughter's JC potentially being eclipsed by other JCs in the unknown future. It's all based on free market forces. Some teens like newer campuses, others like later starting hour and 5-day PE attire. So respect their choices. Life is too short to worry about other minuscule statistics when one's offspring has already graduated. Too much sodium is no good for the elderly.

Ah yoh, dont like that say me lei....
Yr EJC Thsheng99 said EJC is more value added than other single digit JCs mah....isnt this comparing of JCs?
I curious which JCs mah
I have EJC all subjects % A performance.
Yes, EJC has done well...i support hor...but not what you EJCian parents say \" very good\".
With 75% cohort from 3 gd IP Sec Sch, it should work more on it Sciences.
Other than ACJC, TJC,
NJC Medium 84.4 is better than EJC too.

EJC results didnt do better than the rest of the top tier JCs lei...

thsheng99\" post_id=\"1900543\" time=\"1551425407\" user_id=\"37400:

Grandyma\" post_id=\"1900412\" time=\"1551397436\" user_id=\"153793:

EJC value adding...you mean with 75% IP kids in this 2018 A level cohort ( its P6 intake that yr i think was COP 252-257 and higher) , you didnt expect this cohort to churn out Mean RP of 82.4 results regardless its pioneer batch or not. From info shared, RP 82.4 is not better than some other JCs.

Which single digit JCs are you refering that they didnt produce the so called ' value adding' results and that EJC has more 'value added' results??

Are you saying the rest of the IP JCs have no IP kids? Furthermore, there is still a substantial 25% that came in through JAE in EJC. Please look at the COP at 2017

Junior College\tArts\tScience / IB
Raffles Institution, RI\t4\t4
Hwa Chong Institution, HCI\t4\t4
Victoria Junior College, VJC\t7\t5
Anglo-Chinese School (Independent), ACSi\t–\t5
National Junior College, NJC\t7\t6
Nanyang Junior College, NYJC\t7\t6
Anglo-Chinese Junior College, ACJC\t8\t7
St. Joseph’s Institution, SJI\t–\t7
Eunoia Junior College, EJC\t9\t9

There are at least 8 schools with better COP than EJC. With a UAS of 82.4 is close to or similar to the likes of NJC and VJC ( who has COP of 5-7)

Furthermore, given that it is a pioneer year ( with no proven record) with presumably many teething problems and that it is operating from a temporary campus in remote Mt Sinai where transportation links are not that good, would you not think that they have been \"value-adding\"?

You are just being over-critical. I am glad that my grandma is more reasonable

\" With a mean UAS of 82.x, taking into accounr its COP was 10 previously, it is really value-adding compared to the other JCs whose COP was single digit\"
Which JCs are you refering lei??

\"There are at least 8 schools with better COP than EJC. With a UAS of 82.4 is close to or similar to the likes of NJC and VJC ( who has COP of 5-7)\"
What you mean by this sentence??