Raffles Girls' Primary

[Davischew]

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Davischew\" post_id=\"1924106\" time=\"1564461425\" user_id=\"132882:

[quote=phtthp post_id=1924099 time=1564460859 user_id=35251]
on the last day of Phase 2C registration, during that last hour or so towards 4.30 pm, RGPS have to provide statistics, because those SC staying outside > 2km under Phase 2C need to know how competitive is the balloting going to be.
In the event if really far too competitve, some parents may decide to withdraw, go to some other primary schools no need to ballot for SC under 2C, eg. to Marymount Convent

Agree. At this era of smart nation, maybe MOE should have a real-time website for applications at least to reflect the last day of each phase. Else some ill-informed parents will be stuck with zero/low chance at the most important phase 2C.

Firstly, I caution against the expectation that the school must provide or have to provide the statistic. Right until the last second, they are still under no obligation to inform you the latest numbers.

There are several challenges in keeping one updated. For example, at D-30mins, the admin come and tell you 25 applicants under 1km for 25 vacancies, all > 1km must 跑路. At D-20mins, 2 of the 25 applicants decide to withdraw because their top dream school now got chance. Then how? Recall back those who 跑路? Those > 1km who stayed behind or didn’t run fast enough 拾到宝 because they get to ballot now. If you are one of those kiasu 跑路 but then realise there was actually a chance, how? Bang balls or go back school bang table?

Therefore, parents should go in with their eyes wide open. If the admin provides you with info, great. If not, keep your senses on high alert.[/quote]Schools can only help to provide stats as accurate and fast as possible. Parents will need to decide to run or stay

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Davischew\" post_id=\"1924114\" time=\"1564462199\" user_id=\"132882:

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[quote=Davischew post_id=1924106 time=1564461425 user_id=132882]
Agree. At this era of smart nation, maybe MOE should have a real-time website for applications at least to reflect the last day of each phase. Else some ill-informed parents will be stuck with zero/low chance at the most important phase 2C.

Firstly, I caution against the expectation that the school must provide or have to provide the statistic. Right until the last second, they are still under no obligation to inform you the latest numbers.

There are several challenges in keeping one updated. For example, at D-30mins, the admin come and tell you 25 applicants under 1km for 25 vacancies, all > 1km must 跑路. At D-20mins, 2 of the 25 applicants decide to withdraw because their top dream school now got chance. Then how? Recall back those who 跑路? Those > 1km who stayed behind or didn’t run fast enough 拾到宝 because they get to ballot now. If you are one of those kiasu 跑路 but then realise there was actually a chance, how? Bang balls or go back school bang table?

Therefore, parents should go in with their eyes wide open. If the admin provides you with info, great. If not, keep your senses on high alert.

Schools can only help to provide stats as accurate and fast as possible. Parents will need to decide to run or stay[/quote]Therefore, the question is how accurate should the data be and how often should it be refreshed?
As of D-1 day? MOE website already provided that.
D-4hr (ie noon)? Many schools do that.
D-1hr? Schools who always ballot usually do that.
Schools who usually / only ballot < 1km may not even put up detailed info but will turn down those > 1km straightaway.

There are certainly merits in having some info up, but real-time info? Probably not.

[Davischew]

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Davischew\" post_id=\"1924114\" time=\"1564462199\" user_id=\"132882:

[quote=floppy post_id=1924113 time=1564461984 user_id=97579]

Firstly, I caution against the expectation that the school must provide or have to provide the statistic. Right until the last second, they are still under no obligation to inform you the latest numbers.

There are several challenges in keeping one updated. For example, at D-30mins, the admin come and tell you 25 applicants under 1km for 25 vacancies, all > 1km must 跑路. At D-20mins, 2 of the 25 applicants decide to withdraw because their top dream school now got chance. Then how? Recall back those who 跑路? Those > 1km who stayed behind or didn’t run fast enough 拾到宝 because they get to ballot now. If you are one of those kiasu 跑路 but then realise there was actually a chance, how? Bang balls or go back school bang table?

Therefore, parents should go in with their eyes wide open. If the admin provides you with info, great. If not, keep your senses on high alert.

Schools can only help to provide stats as accurate and fast as possible. Parents will need to decide to run or stay

Therefore, the question is how accurate should the data be and how often should it be refreshed?
As of D-1 day? MOE website already provided that.
D-4hr (ie noon)? Many schools do that.
D-1hr? Schools who always ballot usually do that.
Schools who usually / only ballot < 1km may not even put up detailed info but will turn down those > 1km straightaway.

There are certainly merits in having some info up, but real-time info? Probably not.[/quote]Let’s petition to MOE and get it real-time lah haha

[Veyron]

Davischew\" post_id=\"1924106\" time=\"1564461425\" user_id=\"132882:

phtthp\" post_id=\"1924099\" time=\"1564460859\" user_id=\"35251:

[quote=Davischew]
It's just a phonecall away, call and try. Who knows if the admin had a good/bad hair day

on the last day of Phase 2C registration, during that last hour or so towards 4.30 pm, RGPS have to provide statistics, because those SC staying outside > 2km under Phase 2C need to know how competitive is the balloting going to be.
In the event if really far too competitve, some parents may decide to withdraw, go to some other primary schools no need to ballot for SC under 2C, eg. to Marymount Convent

Agree. At this era of smart nation, maybe MOE should have a real-time website for applications at least to reflect the last day of each phase. Else some ill-informed parents will be stuck with zero/low chance at the most important phase 2C.[/quote]real time information changes all the time so its quite meaningless or worst misleading if parent doesnt get the most up to date information.

[Davischew]

Veyron\" post_id=\"1924149\" time=\"1564464758\" user_id=\"30663:

Davischew\" post_id=\"1924106\" time=\"1564461425\" user_id=\"132882:

[quote=phtthp post_id=1924099 time=1564460859 user_id=35251]
on the last day of Phase 2C registration, during that last hour or so towards 4.30 pm, RGPS have to provide statistics, because those SC staying outside > 2km under Phase 2C need to know how competitive is the balloting going to be.
In the event if really far too competitve, some parents may decide to withdraw, go to some other primary schools no need to ballot for SC under 2C, eg. to Marymount Convent

Agree. At this era of smart nation, maybe MOE should have a real-time website for applications at least to reflect the last day of each phase. Else some ill-informed parents will be stuck with zero/low chance at the most important phase 2C.

real time information changes all the time so its quite meaningless or worst misleading if parent doesnt get the most up to date information.[/quote]i don't understand what you saying. Real-time means most up to date. It will change to reflect the real situation. Don't worry, it will not change as fast as the stock market.

[Zismmo]

I agree with Veyron, \"real time\" data will never really be real time. The consequence is only to make the whole process even more stressful for some parents who spent 24-7 watching the numbers. There's beauty in incomplete information, chaos and uncertainties - that's the beauty of life :imcool:

[Davischew]

Zismmo\" post_id=\"1924182\" time=\"1564467859\" user_id=\"179881:

I agree with Veyron, \"real time\" data will never really be real time. The consequence is only to make the whole process even more stressful for some parents who spent 24-7 watching the numbers. There's beauty in incomplete information, chaos and uncertainties - that's the beauty of life :imcool:

i am not in for this \"beauty of incomplete, chaos, uncertainties\"

[Veyron]

Davischew\" post_id=\"1924150\" time=\"1564464934\" user_id=\"132882:

i don't understand what you saying. Real-time means most up to date. It will change to reflect the real situation. Don't worry, it will not change as fast as the stock market.

For someone who is concerned about balloting, all the information prior to the last day of registration will be meaningless. Which mean all afford put into updating information on real time basis will be fruitless and not result in any positive outcome.

Then again, if real time tracking is crucial during the days leading up to closing, then this will only lead to another set of problem because parents who needs to work and have no time to track the result will be at disadvantage.

[Davischew]

Veyron\" post_id=\"1924202\" time=\"1564469594\" user_id=\"30663:

Davischew\" post_id=\"1924150\" time=\"1564464934\" user_id=\"132882:

i don't understand what you saying. Real-time means most up to date. It will change to reflect the real situation. Don't worry, it will not change as fast as the stock market.

For someone who is concerned about balloting, all the information prior to the last day of registration will be meaningless. Which mean all afford put into updating information on real time basis will be fruitless and not result in any positive outcome.

Then again, if real time tracking is crucial during the days leading up to closing, then this will only lead to another set of problem because parents who needs to work and have no time to track the result will be at disadvantage.

IMO, this is the life changing phase of your life(or your child). So take 1 day leave (out of 14 days/6 days CCL) to monitor, is that too much?

anyways, just a discussion. no offence.

[Zismmo]

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