2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

[weiwei816]

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weiwei816\" post_id=\"1948068\" time=\"1574420917\" user_id=\"57825:

Is Guangyang school a good school? I am puzzled why the PSLE score min and max is so wide? 188 to 250+

In Guangyang Secondary

some scored 188 can still choose Express stream. There are a few classes for Express stream

Perhaps, check what talent programme does Guangyang Secondary offer, since there are students with 250+ also inside. Nowadays, a number of Secondary schools offer interesting Applied learning programme

Thank u Phtthp for sharing your view!

[Stevenlsf]

Timmy21\" post_id=\"1948091\" time=\"1574427207\" user_id=\"122721:

phtthp\" post_id=\"1948083\" time=\"1574424838\" user_id=\"35251:

[quote=bluemom post_id=1948081 time=1574424507 user_id=12853]What is the chance of 250+2 getting into an IP sch? Eg: RV COP 252, so my hmt of +2 will be counted as 252 or i still lose out to those of tscore purely 252 one??

The higher your raw Tscore, you will enter first

If 2019 COP for River Valley High is indeed 252 this year, then


252 +0 (those never taken HCL), will enter into RV (IP) first, before any

251 +1 (pass, for HCL), who will in turn also enter into RV (IP) first, before any

250 +2 (merit, for HCL)


It is your original Raw T-score, that take precedence first

i believe ur interpretation is incorrect. T-score with HMT bonus points included are tteated like raw score for admission priority into SAP schools regardless IP or not.[/quote]this is also my understanding. Anyone can help to confirm again? Thanks.

[weiwei816]

floppy\" post_id=\"1948095\" time=\"1574428232\" user_id=\"97579:

weiwei816\" post_id=\"1948068\" time=\"1574420917\" user_id=\"57825:

Is Guangyang school a good school? I am puzzled why the PSLE score min and max is so wide? 188 to 250+

What’s your definition of a good school?

There are various reasons. Sometimes people don’t mind a school next to their place as convenience override all other concerns. Besides, if you frequent Bishan often, you will realize that Guangyang students, despite the seemingly low COP, aren’t those problematic type and reasonably well behaved.

FWIW, one of my best had a score of 260+. Could have gone to HCI (then known as TCHS) but went to a neighborhood school with an equivalent COP of COP 188. He didn’t make the selection - his grandmother / mother, who are not well-educated, did. Nonetheless, he was too lazy to change it (during my times, those who qualify for SAP can change after results announced). Needless to say, he’s the best student in the school by a mile. Went on to JC and Uni. In the end, didn’t hurt him a bit TBH.

Thanks so much for sharing! Typically, parents compare COP of the secondary school, and try to apply a school that their child meet the min COP -2 to -3 pts or up to +10 pts... very curious why a student with 250+ applied a school with min188 COP since there are so many other choices...so I thought there must be something that Guangyang school is good with... Its great to have experts like u and Phtthp to share:) I am going to their open house tml to find out more, though my son's score is far above the min COP (not 250 kind though), but dont mind to put it as one of the options in consideration of proximity to home.

[nukewind]

Can i check: i understand hmt gives bonus points for application to sap schools…does this bonus point apply to both op n ip track?

[Swc]

nukewind\" post_id=\"1948111\" time=\"1574431868\" user_id=\"848:

Can i check: i understand hmt gives bonus points for application to sap schools...does this bonus point apply to both op n ip track?

Yes. As long as sap schools. Does not matter whether IP or O level track

[mengsan]

Stevenlsf\" post_id=\"1948107\" time=\"1574430917\" user_id=\"69371:

Timmy21\" post_id=\"1948091\" time=\"1574427207\" user_id=\"122721:

[quote=phtthp post_id=1948083 time=1574424838 user_id=35251]
The higher your raw Tscore, you will enter first

If 2019 COP for River Valley High is indeed 252 this year, then


252 +0 (those never taken HCL), will enter into RV (IP) first, before any

251 +1 (pass, for HCL), who will in turn also enter into RV (IP) first, before any

250 +2 (merit, for HCL)


It is your original Raw T-score, that take precedence first

i believe ur interpretation is incorrect. T-score with HMT bonus points included are tteated like raw score for admission priority into SAP schools regardless IP or not.

this is also my understanding. Anyone can help to confirm again? Thanks.[/quote]I not too sure abt that, maybe someone can quote the MOE guidelines just to confirm?? Thanks

[jakoh]

Timmy21\" post_id=\"1947970\" time=\"1574408224\" user_id=\"122721:

jakoh\" post_id=\"1947851\" time=\"1574398632\" user_id=\"151698:

Thanks, Mengshan!

Ha btw, as this forum is very active, how do i reply tagging to the specific note such that the person can relate to it? Just don't seem to find any way to do it...

To do tat, click on the apostrophe \" in the upper right corner of each message

Cool! Got it! Thanks, Timmy21!

[jakoh]

Timmy21\" post_id=\"1947970\" time=\"1574408224\" user_id=\"122721:

jakoh\" post_id=\"1947851\" time=\"1574398632\" user_id=\"151698:

Thanks, Mengshan!

Ha btw, as this forum is very active, how do i reply tagging to the specific note such that the person can relate to it? Just don't seem to find any way to do it...

To do tat, click on the apostrophe \" in the upper right corner of each message

Cool! Got it! Thanks, Timmy21!

[Hynion]

Jk1975\" post_id=\"1948075\" time=\"1574422754\" user_id=\"182468:

Hi,

I got 258 T Score. I would like to try RI (boys)based on last 2 years cut off point..Any suggestions?

No harm to try if you are interested in RI.

[PSLEfrantic]

floppy\" post_id=\"1947892\" time=\"1574402355\" user_id=\"97579:

MsB_Luv\" post_id=\"1947881\" time=\"1574401678\" user_id=\"182449:

[quote=floppy post_id=1947827 time=1574395605 user_id=97579]

There’s a reason why “analysts” would prefer to look at median t-score instead of range of students’ t-scores or COP. You can get the info from MOE’s SIS.

As an example, you can look at Whitley for an example of a wide range of t-scores: 188 to 251 and Punggol as an example of a narrow range: 201 to 233.
Median of Whitley is 207 while Punggol median is 205.
If both schools are of a similar size, Whitley may actually have a stronger cohort despite having a much lower COP.

You can also contrast the above with Guangyang Sec, another school with a wide range of t-score: 188 to 251. Median is 203. If schools are of a similar size, Guangyang’s cohort could be the weakest of the lot, despite having a similar range as Whitley.

The reasons for the above are varied but location, familiarity seems to be a big factor.

P/S: why only mummies can answer?

Thank you. Ok, I will Google on MOE’SIS.
Sound complicated... on median scores. Will analyse.

The sch - jus neighbourhood, jus hoping for a better cohorts. So higher median would be better - ranger than looking at its range of COP, right?
:snuggles:
Btw, Daddy and mummies are all welcome!
Thank u all for ur replies & advices.

SIS here: https://sis.moe.gov.sg/?viewmode=viewfullsite

In simple terms, median is the midpoint of the cohort. Eg in Whitley’s case, 50% of the cohort scores better than 207 (207 to 251) while 50% scores less than that (188 to 207).

There’s no better or worst, or higher means better. It all depends on what you are looking for. For example, if a school has a range of 205 to 225 but median 207, it means the cohort strength is fairly equal (whereas in Whitley’s case, the better or even average students are quite far apart from their weakest).[/quote]This is very useful! Thank you parent. So should we prefer far apart or fairly close as a better school?