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    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Tertiary Education - A-Levels, Diplomas, Degrees
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    • doodbugD Offline
      doodbug
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      If NYJC is keen to have a through train IP programme, perhaps it should find Sec Sch partners and propose to MOE. It is inconceivable considering NYJC does have affiliated sec schools.


      I’m not overly concerned about EJC’s academic performance at this point - esp if it is close to that of NJC, VJC, DHS - bearing in mind that at the PSLE stage, generally speaking, the IP cohort admitted to CHS/SCGS/SNGS may not always be as strong as that of NJC or DHS.

      That said, I am not sure if my DD will adapt to EJC. She’s so happy in her Sec Sch and isn’t looking forward to JC so we’ll see.

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        doodbug\" post_id=\"2018096\" time=\"1616306060\" user_id=\"13281:

        If NYJC is keen to have a through train IP programme, perhaps it should find Sec Sch partners and propose to MOE. It is inconceivable considering NYJC does have affiliated sec schools.

        I'm not overly concerned about EJC's academic performance at this point - esp if it is close to that of NJC, VJC, DHS - bearing in mind that at the PSLE stage, generally speaking,, the IP cohort admitted to CHS/SCGS/SNGS may not always be as strong as that of NJC or DHS.

        That said, I am not sure if my DD will adapt to EJC. She's so happy in her Sec Sch and isn't looking forward to JC so we'll see.
        nyjc can go find nygh team up.... nanyang find nanyang lah...... :imcool:

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        • phtthpP Offline
          phtthp
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          lee_yl\" post_id=\"2018089\" time=\"1616303347\" user_id=\"17023:



          Do you know what you are talking about? And you are also underestimating JAE students due to your own obsessive bias.

          Maybe should inject IP students into NYJC. Else forever NYJC dares not disclose NYJC’s 4H2 performance. Or can help NYJC clinch a couple of PSC Scholarships?

          Yes, should inject IP into NYJC mainly so can improve its std even more n to mid tier JCs. Gd idea.

          How to turn Nanyang Junior College, into an IP JC ?

          It has to start, right after PSLE over.


          Currently, Nanyang Junior College take in affliated co-ed Secondary students, from two Chung Cheng High (Main & Yushun) schools.

          In order to inject IP students just after PSLE into NYJC, can propose to MOE to

          a) convert both Chung Cheng High (Main & Yishun) Express stream O-level track, into IP Secondary schools and then

          b) perhaps, invite Crescent Girls Secondary to be a partner school ?

          After all, Crescent Girls is a good O-level Secondary school, just like

          Cedar Girls Secondary, who have already been \"bethrothed\" to Victoria Secondary, to form the affliated alliance IP-Victoria JC

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            Dino\" post_id=\"2018174\" time=\"1616406266\" user_id=\"6726:

            doodbug\" post_id=\"2018096\" time=\"1616306060\" user_id=\"13281:

            If NYJC is keen to have a through train IP programme, perhaps it should find Sec Sch partners and propose to MOE. It is inconceivable considering NYJC does have affiliated sec schools.

            I'm not overly concerned about EJC's academic performance at this point - esp if it is close to that of NJC, VJC, DHS - bearing in mind that at the PSLE stage, generally speaking,, the IP cohort admitted to CHS/SCGS/SNGS may not always be as strong as that of NJC or DHS.

            That said, I am not sure if my DD will adapt to EJC. She's so happy in her Sec Sch and isn't looking forward to JC so we'll see.

            nyjc can go find nygh team up.... nanyang find nanyang lah...... :imcool:

            Nanyang Girls High already been \"bethrothed\" to Hwa Chong.
            Hwa Chong already taken up, \"choped\" all the Nanyang Girls. The girls there \"min hua you zu\", not available anymore.


            Hence, Chung Cheng High (both Main & Yishun) Express stream, must look for another potential partner to pair up with, in order to become an IP school, taking in students right after PSLE.

            To become an IP (A level Secondary school), minimum expected to be at least
            (Tscore 250 or AL 8 points).


            Thus,
            even if Chung Cheng High (Main & Yishun branches, Express stream track) Psle COP are 24x and Crescent Girls also 24x, and Anderson Secondary (co-ed) also 24x, can consider, convert into IP. The higher end of 24x, the closer towards 250, the better choice

            Chung Cheng High (Main), is a SAP school, offer only Express stream, no Normal stream.

            For CCHM to convert into an IP Secondary school, if look for common basis background to partner with, if Crescent Girls (Non-SAP school) not suitable, can consider partner


            - with Nan Chiau High (PSLE COP also 24x) or

            - with Anglican High

            because these two are SAP schools, have common background for communication

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            • W Offline
              Whyyhww
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              phtthp\" post_id=\"2018176\" time=\"1616408849\" user_id=\"35251:

              Dino\" post_id=\"2018174\" time=\"1616406266\" user_id=\"6726:

              [quote=doodbug post_id=2018096 time=1616306060 user_id=13281]If NYJC is keen to have a through train IP programme, perhaps it should find Sec Sch partners and propose to MOE. It is inconceivable considering NYJC does have affiliated sec schools.

              I'm not overly concerned about EJC's academic performance at this point - esp if it is close to that of NJC, VJC, DHS - bearing in mind that at the PSLE stage, generally speaking,, the IP cohort admitted to CHS/SCGS/SNGS may not always be as strong as that of NJC or DHS.

              That said, I am not sure if my DD will adapt to EJC. She's so happy in her Sec Sch and isn't looking forward to JC so we'll see.

              nyjc can go find nygh team up.... nanyang find nanyang lah...... :imcool:

              Nanyang Girls High already been \"bethrothed\" to Hwa Chong.
              Hwa Chong already taken up, \"choped\" all the Nanyang Girls. The girls there \"min hua you zu\", not available anymore.


              Hence, Chung Cheng High (both Main & Yishun) Express stream, must look for another potential partner to pair up with, in order to become an IP school, taking in students right after PSLE.

              To become an IP (A level Secondary school), minimum expected to be at least
              (Tscore 250 or AL 8 points).


              Thus,
              even if Chung Cheng High (Main & Yishun branches, Express stream track) Psle COP are 24x and Crescent Girls also 24x, and Anderson Secondary (co-ed) also 24x, can consider, convert into IP. The higher end of 24x, the closer towards 250, the better choice

              Chung Cheng High (Main), is a SAP school, offer only Express stream, no Normal stream.

              For CCHM to convert into an IP Secondary school, if look for common basis background to partner with, if Crescent Girls (Non-SAP school) not suitable, can consider partner


              - with Nan Chiau High (PSLE COP also 24x) or

              - with Anglican High

              because these two are SAP schools, have common background for communication[/quote]NCH, CCHMain and Crescent Girls'= Perfect!
              AHS standard not too sure.
              Doesnt hv to be all SAP.
              Scgs isnt SAP but still chosen to be Ejc IP.

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              • doodbugD Offline
                doodbug
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                location-wise crescent girls are at the opposite end of the island though lol 🙂

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                • W Offline
                  Whyyhww
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                  location-wise crescent girls are at the opposite end of the island though lol 🙂
                  Ya right, I know.
                  Nan Hua can consider as many CGSS & esp NH kids do opt Nyjc regardless of its distance.

                  Moe shd consider having higher range T Score 24X kids experience IP Education from sec 1.

                  To prevent Elistism brewing.

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                  • doodbugD Offline
                    doodbug
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                    Actually a lot of the 24X kids score well at O levels and want the freedom to choose any JC. In fact, I think a good number of 25X kids are in the O level programme at MGS, SCGS, SNGS and CHS. There are also 25X kids at CCHS, Nan Hua High etc - they opted not to do IP also in part because they want the freedom to choose JCs or Poly courses later on.

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                    • W Offline
                      Whyyhww
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                      Actually a lot of the 24X kids score well at O levels and want the freedom to choose any JC. In fact, I think a good number of 25X kids are in the O level programme at MGS, SCGS, SNGS and CHS. There are also 25X kids at CCHS, Nan Hua High etc - they opted not to do IP also in part because they want the freedom to choose JCs or Poly courses later on.
                      Cant agree more.
                      But here Im refer to higher range scorers 24X who wish to pursue an IP JC Education from sec 1 but denied as current trend need 250 above to qualify.

                      Moe hopes to produce potential leaders from RI,HCI.
                      Latest is Ejc with 3 affialities Sec but cop 252 more.

                      Given opportunity to experience IP sec in upper tier 24X sec school and later in Nyjc, eventually these kids can too excel just like peers from RI,HCI or EJC.

                      As in Moe is think'g allowing more kids to enrol under Phase 2C in popular pri schs from next yr or so.

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                      • phtthpP Offline
                        phtthp
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                        Whyyhww\" post_id=\"2018236\" time=\"1616479698\" user_id=\"191999:

                        doodbug\" post_id=\"2018221\" time=\"1616473211\" user_id=\"13281:

                        location-wise crescent girls are at the opposite end of the island though lol 🙂

                        Ya right, I know.
                        Nan Hua can consider as many CGSS & esp NH kids do opt Nyjc regardless of its distance.

                        Moe shd consider having higher range T Score 24X kids experience IP Education from sec 1.

                        To prevent Elistism brewing.

                        If Singapore's student population continue to expand and if Sg need more IP Secondary schools in future, Yes, going forward,
                        Crescent Girls Secondary is one of the potential schools to convert into IP, together with a few other potential schools as well, like

                        Nan Chiau High, Nan Hua High, Chung Cheng High, Anderson Secondary.

                        can't recall which year, but Anderson Secondary PSLE admission COP was 247, pretty high !


                        After all, didn't MOE convert both
                        (River Valley High & Dunman High), into \" IP \" as well ?

                        RV High and Dunman High are Not Junior Colleges, in the first place. These two High schools started off with just being Secondary schools. Later, then add in 2 more post-Secondary, additional years of A-level. Hey presto, from that point onwards,
                        their status changed over night, become \"IP\" schools.

                        River Valley High & Dunman High operate differently from (Victoria / National / Temasek) JC mode.

                        VJC, NJC and TJC, these three, started off as Junior Colleges , first. They were never Secondary schools originally, to begin with. Only much later on, as time passed, then slowly add in the Secondary school section. Hence, operated in different mode, from : Dunman High & River Valley High. Nevertheless, in the end, all became \"IP\" schools status.

                        Likewise, if there is a need to convert Nanyang Junior College into IP one day, then the students will comprise

                        1)

                        all those affliated Chung Cheng High (from both Main & Yishun branches, Express O level track) students who have scored Raw score L1R5 10 points or better, assuming that the Cut-off-points (NYJC) is Nett 6 points, with affliated students able to offset their 4 discount points from (Cca or Higher Chinese + Affliation status), plus


                        2)

                        all those PSLE students, who are able to meet future Nanyang Junior College (IP) admission Cut-off-point AL points.

                        For Nanyang Junior College to turn into IP, the first entry point of admission has to be, from the PSLE batch of students.


                        3)

                        plus find another suitable Partner school who happen to share the same common interests / vision together.
                        Can be

                        (Nan Hua High or
                        Nan Chiau High or
                        Crescent Girls Sec or Anderson Secondary)


                        The IP (Crescent Girls) can remain in their own school study IP curriculum, from Year (1 to 4). Once reach Year 5, the girls then cross over to Nanyang Junior College, study their A-level.


                        That is , follow the same pattern (format), follow the same method as

                        - the SCGS (IP) and St Nick (IP) girls, study 4 years (IP) in their own individual Secondary school, until reach Year 5, then cross over to Eunoia Junior College

                        and follow the same, identical method as


                        - Cedar (IP) girls study 4 years (IP). Only reach Year 5, the girls then cross over to Victoria Junior College.

                        ==========================

                        But of course,
                        if Nanyang Junior College were to become converted into \"IP\" one day, then

                        In the end, when that day come,
                        perhaps NYJC can only admit 20% of the JAE students, same as what (River Valley High & Dunman High) are admitting now : 20 %, because most of the seats have been \"choped\" by the PSLE students, unlike the current today situation, NYJC absorb 100 % of JAE intake.

                        However,
                        Moe alone herself, cannot make the decision to \" suka suka\" convert Nanyang JC into \"IP\", because It is after all polite and considerate, to consult the opinion of all the (past & present) Nanyang JC Alumni members, how they feel. If the general consensus, majority of all the alumni members prefer NYJC to be as it is, then let it remain unchanged

                        If we are outsider, not an NYJC alumni member, we have no say.

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