Raffles Girls' School (Secondary) [*IP]
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Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2025778\" time=\"1622466411\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2025778 time=1622466411 user_id=58173]
Median is the mid-point mark - half of the students score above that mark, and half below. I feel it's a better indicator for that particular school than the average mark which can be pulled up or down by a few very high or very low marks. So if the child is scoring above the median, it means that she is in the top half of students, which in a competitive environment, would mean she is doing well. If the child is scoring just below the median, it means that a little more than 50% of students scored better than she did.
Agree the medians are high. Not sure how to make sense of this data though. Is above the median good enough? What happens if a few points below median? Is median, a useful data?[/quote]
\"Good enough\" depends on what your targets and aspirations are. If you expect your child to be the top student, being near the median is bad. If you want your child to be safely in the middle of the pack, median means she is right there. If your child is usually a weak student, getting near the median is very good.
Referring to the comment about the step from Y2 to Y3, I don't know how to compare between schools. There is always a \"step up\" every couple of years since that is the way our school system is arranged. It's supposed to match the students' growing abilities and maturity, so it works for most students. Students who are a bit \"out of step\" may need a bit more coaching or help in adjusting, but they will sort it out eventually. Of course, not every student can be the top student, but the student should stay roughly in the same place in the pecking order. -
Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2025781\" time=\"1622466663\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2025781 time=1622466663 user_id=58173]
When I read the first post, I had thought he meant yr 3 is like p5, where is it like a prep year for yr 4 which is like psle. From that I had thought he meant yr 3 grades dropped / are not up to expectations, like how, many people found that p5 grades dropped (there’s even a dedicated thread for that).peasants\" post_id=\"2025440\" time=\"1622122324\" user_id=\"75885:Hm. Year 3 should be P3? As IP is a 6 year program... it feels like year 4 is like p4 streaming, stream into your choice of subject combination. What makes your think it’s steeper, is it because of the load or depth? Or others?
Of course it was later mentioned that “yr 2 to yr 3 .... more subjects”. But if it was just more subjects, why would it be compared to p5 where the number of subjects in p4 and p5 are the same?
I agree that median is a more useful data than average. But not to worry if you are below the median, if some papers are “small papers”, max marks 40 for eg, transferring one careless mistake can already cost you 2 or 3 points. You still know your stuff but your friends are less careless than you.
However, if one has entered the school through psle, one should aim to be minimally at the median (my own opinion, no one has to agree), afterall, it will be within this same cohort, that will be choosing subject combinations in jc1, and won’t you want to be able “to choose the combi than to let the combi choose you”? -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2025819\" time=\"1622507522\" user_id=\"28674:
Recently, after some of the AA and PPAs results were out, I hear from child that she has a friend who is feeling rather anguished (perhaps even some suicidal thoughts). The girl did not do too well last year (not sure what grades that means). For this mid-year, her overall GPA increased by 0.2, but her mum still reprimanded her e.g. something like for some graded tasks, if she had listened to her mum and do this do that, she would have gotten a better grade. Girl ranted in their chat group, and good that other girls help to console her. BTW, somehow among their friends, they will not ask for each other's results. One girl in the chat group is known to have consistently good results since primary school, but she hated to be used as a benchmark. Maybe just expect the worst, and hope for the best.
Median is the mid-point mark - half of the students score above that mark, and half below. I feel it's a better indicator for that particular school than the average mark which can be pulled up or down by a few very high or very low marks. So if the child is scoring above the median, it means that she is in the top half of students, which in a competitive environment, would mean she is doing well. If the child is scoring just below the median, it means that a little more than 50% of students scored better than she did.Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2025778\" time=\"1622466411\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2025778 time=1622466411 user_id=58173]Agree the medians are high. Not sure how to make sense of this data though. Is above the median good enough? What happens if a few points below median? Is median, a useful data?
\"Good enough\" depends on what your targets and aspirations are. If you expect your child to be the top student, being near the median is bad. If you want your child to be safely in the middle of the pack, median means she is right there. If your child is usually a weak student, getting near the median is very good.
Referring to the comment about the step from Y2 to Y3, I don't know how to compare between schools. There is always a \"step up\" every couple of years since that is the way our school system is arranged. It's supposed to match the students' growing abilities and maturity, so it works for most students. Students who are a bit \"out of step\" may need a bit more coaching or help in adjusting, but they will sort it out eventually. Of course, not every student can be the top student, but the student should stay roughly in the same place in the pecking order.[/quote] -
newbieks\" post_id=\"2025830\" time=\"1622517562\" user_id=\"178749:
My daughter told me that too. For those who are weaker, they don't like it to be known. For those who are stronger, they don't like to seem boastful. Only those who are very close friends will share their results. So it's good that the school does disclose the median mark to give students (and their parents) an idea of where they stand.
BTW, somehow among their friends, they will not ask for each other's results. One girl in the chat group is known to have consistently good results since primary school, but she hated to be used as a benchmark. Maybe just expect the worst, and hope for the best. -
The median is given only by subjects. I think it’ll be helpful to know the median for the GPA too…
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Think most will know that I meant is workload increase, which can arise from intense revision during P5 , or due to subjects increase in Year 3, hence the comparisons. Although grades maintain but will see if workload is sustainable. Else will consider opt out RSP like some did.
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peasants\" post_id=\"2025842\" time=\"1622523265\" user_id=\"75885:
My girl is also taking RSP.. With this, she will be taking 10 subjects next year, sort of worried about the workload. But she likes the program and wants to continue. Have been discussing with her on the subject combinations next year, she insisted in taking 2 humanities.. omg.. Additional to acad workload, she still has her leadership roles in school.. Really hope she can manage them..
Think most will know that I meant is workload increase, which can arise from intense revision during P5 , or due to subjects increase in Year 3, hence the comparisons. Although grades maintain but will see if workload is sustainable. Else will consider opt out RSP like some did. -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2025819\" time=\"1622507522\" user_id=\"28674:
Interesting sharing! Thanks 😊 I guess most, if not all of the girls were top students in their respective primary school. Being mediocre now might be making some feel sad. Mentality. All about relativity.
Median is the mid-point mark - half of the students score above that mark, and half below. I feel it's a better indicator for that particular school than the average mark which can be pulled up or down by a few very high or very low marks. So if the child is scoring above the median, it means that she is in the top half of students, which in a competitive environment, would mean she is doing well. If the child is scoring just below the median, it means that a little more than 50% of students scored better than she did.Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2025778\" time=\"1622466411\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2025778 time=1622466411 user_id=58173]Agree the medians are high. Not sure how to make sense of this data though. Is above the median good enough? What happens if a few points below median? Is median, a useful data?
\"Good enough\" depends on what your targets and aspirations are. If you expect your child to be the top student, being near the median is bad. If you want your child to be safely in the middle of the pack, median means she is right there. If your child is usually a weak student, getting near the median is very good.
Referring to the comment about the step from Y2 to Y3, I don't know how to compare between schools. There is always a \"step up\" every couple of years since that is the way our school system is arranged. It's supposed to match the students' growing abilities and maturity, so it works for most students. Students who are a bit \"out of step\" may need a bit more coaching or help in adjusting, but they will sort it out eventually. Of course, not every student can be the top student, but the student should stay roughly in the same place in the pecking order.[/quote] -
lakesidemum\" post_id=\"2025844\" time=\"1622523727\" user_id=\"6118:
Firstly, I want to comment that both your girls are extremely outstanding! So happy for you both, peasant and lakesidemum. You must be so proud of the girls!
My girl is also taking RSP.. With this, she will be taking 10 subjects next year, sort of worried about the workload. But she likes the program and wants to continue. Have been discussing with her on the subject combinations next year, she insisted in taking 2 humanities.. omg.. Additional to acad workload, she still has her leadership roles in school.. Really hope she can manage them..peasants\" post_id=\"2025842\" time=\"1622523265\" user_id=\"75885:
Think most will know that I meant is workload increase, which can arise from intense revision during P5 , or due to subjects increase in Year 3, hence the comparisons. Although grades maintain but will see if workload is sustainable. Else will consider opt out RSP like some did.
Lakesidemum, does the 2 humanities include I&A? I heard most girls do either lit/Geo/history, along with the compulsory I&A which is considered a humanities subject.
When do they get to choose or be selected for RSP? Thank you in advance! -
slmkhoo\" post_id=\"2025835\" time=\"1622520078\" user_id=\"28674:
Agree. My daughter said the same and I am thankful that she has a smaller close group of friends that shared results with one another and encouraged each other along!
My daughter told me that too. For those who are weaker, they don't like it to be known. For those who are stronger, they don't like to seem boastful. Only those who are very close friends will share their results. So it's good that the school does disclose the median mark to give students (and their parents) an idea of where they stand.newbieks\" post_id=\"2025830\" time=\"1622517562\" user_id=\"178749:
BTW, somehow among their friends, they will not ask for each other's results. One girl in the chat group is known to have consistently good results since primary school, but she hated to be used as a benchmark. Maybe just expect the worst, and hope for the best.
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