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    2022 PSLE Discussions & Strategies (born in 2010)

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    • SG_KP1S Offline
      SG_KP1
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      sembgal\" post_id=\"2074904\" time=\"1658043156\" user_id=\"5559:

      Thanks for your clarification.
      No problem. Another rough data point/check is:

      SNGS had affiliate t-score of 230, new AMR is AL14
      MGS/SCGS had affiliate t-score of 220, new AMR is AL17
      Various CHIJ had affiliate t-score of 200, new AMR is AL20

      Not saying there is a direction translation between the two scoring systems (there isn't). But if you take the schools'/MOE's perspective of setting the bar roughly equivalent so that a similar number of students qualify (or hit a similar standard) the figures above can give some insight or sanity check.

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      • zac's mumZ Offline
        zac's mum
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        sembgal\" post_id=\"2074900\" time=\"1658042792\" user_id=\"5559:

        AL 16 = T-score 200 ?
        T-score 200 = AL20. At least judging from:
        https://i.imgur.com/padYpld.jpg\">

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        • sembgalS Offline
          sembgal
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          zac's mum\" post_id=\"2074912\" time=\"1658044158\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2074912 time=1658044158 user_id=53606]
          T-score 200 = AL20. At least judging from:
          https://i.imgur.com/padYpld.jpg\">[/quote]
          Hi

          Interesting data. Where is the data source from ?

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          • zac's mumZ Offline
            zac's mum
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            sembgal\" post_id=\"2074913\" time=\"1658044293\" user_id=\"5559:

            Hi

            Interesting data. Where is the data source from ?
            I think it was a Channel News Asia infographic generated during the MOE announcement of new AL system. Dated 17 July 2016 in my phone.

            Below is the Straits Time version of same date, which credits MOE as the source:
            https://i.imgur.com/Thn6vxs.jpg\">

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            • C Offline
              cocacoco
              last edited by

              SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2074911\" time=\"1658044144\" user_id=\"188234:

              No problem. Another rough data point/check is:

              SNGS had affiliate t-score of 230, new AMR is AL14
              MGS/SCGS had affiliate t-score of 220, new AMR is AL17
              Various CHIJ had affiliate t-score of 200, new AMR is AL20

              Not saying there is a direction translation between the two scoring systems (there isn't). But if you take the schools'/MOE's perspective of setting the bar roughly equivalent so that a similar number of students qualify (or hit a similar standard) the figures above can give some insight or sanity check.
              Interesting. Seems alright.
              So AL9-10 ~250 ~top 10%?
              AL11-12 ~240 ~top 20%
              AL13-14 ~230 ~top 30%
              AL16-17 ~220 ~top 40%
              AL20 ~200 ~top 50%??

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              • SG_KP1S Offline
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                cocacoco\" post_id=\"2074915\" time=\"1658045149\" user_id=\"194809:

                Interesting. Seems alright.
                So AL9 ~250 ~top 10%?
                AL11 ~240 ~top 20%
                AL13-14 ~230 ~top 30%
                AL16-17 ~220 ~top 40%
                AL20 ~200 ~top 50%??
                MOE has fixed automatic qualify for HMT and Third Lang at AL8. Previously, these two floated at Top 10%, so I would conclude AL8 is around Top 10% (+/-).

                I think AL20 / 200 is more like Top 66% (% qualifying for Express), Top 50% around AL16 (Median subject score of 75 = AL4 x 4 = AL16).

                Not sure on the gradient between these levels...

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                • SG_KP1S Offline
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                  zac's mum\" post_id=\"2074914\" time=\"1658044680\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2074914 time=1658044680 user_id=53606]
                  I think it was a Channel News Asia infographic generated during the MOE announcement of new AL system. Dated 17 July 2016 in my phone.[/quote]
                  Treat yourself to a new phone (or is this like Google Photos?)! Give the old clunker to Zac for Sec 1 πŸ˜‚

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                  • sembgalS Offline
                    sembgal
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                    zac's mum\" post_id=\"2074914\" time=\"1658044680\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2074914 time=1658044680 user_id=53606]
                    I think it was a Channel News Asia infographic generated during the MOE announcement of new AL system. Dated 17 July 2016 in my phone.

                    Below is the Straits Time version of same date, which credits MOE as the source:
                    https://i.imgur.com/Thn6vxs.jpg\">[/quote]
                    Thank you for sharing.

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                    • zac's mumZ Offline
                      zac's mum
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                      SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2074921\" time=\"1658046037\" user_id=\"188234:

                      Treat yourself to a new phone (or is this like Google Photos?)! Give the old clunker to Zac for Sec 1 πŸ˜‚
                      Haha it’s cos my photos are stored in iCloud storage. The physical phone has changed since then.

                      But I was quite surprised how long ago the announcement was. Our kids were only 6 years old then and I was stressed abt P1 registration that exact month. Back then it was probably the 2016 Primary 1 parents who were cursing that they were the AL guinea pig batch.

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                        cocacoco
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                        SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2074920\" time=\"1658045577\" user_id=\"188234:

                        MOE has fixed automatic qualify for HMT and Third Lang at AL8. Previously, these two floated at Top 10%, so I would conclude AL8 is around Top 10% (+/-).

                        I think AL20 / 200 is more like Top 66% (% qualifying for Express), Top 50% around AL16 (Median subject score of 75 = AL4 x 4 = AL16).

                        Not sure on the gradient between these levels...
                        There was a top 30% as criteria for taking HCL? Can't remember exactly.

                        AL8, 252, top 10%
                        AL9-10, 250,
                        AL11, 240, top 20%
                        AL12-13, 235, top 25%
                        AL13-14, 230, top 30%
                        AL16, 220, top 50%
                        AL20, 200, top 66%

                        Just guessing lol

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