2022 PSLE Discussions & Strategies (born in 2010)

[tinker_bell]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2089797\" time=\"1669257491\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2089797 time=1669257491 user_id=53606]
The tiered discount is outdated & was changed to $30 regardless of score. There was a report on the controversial issue in the news:

Hotpot chain Haidilao offers discounts for PSLE pupils based on grades, then changes mind
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/hotpot-chain-haidilao-offered-grades-based-discounts-for-psle-students-then-changed-its-mind[/quote]

Aiyoh! I thought it was still valid. I guess haidilao wanted to avoid a pr disaster.

[zac's mum]

Anyway must spend $150 first then get $30 off. I’d rather go eat elsewhere (and we did).

[hercules]

All along (since more than 10 years ago), I believe that the grade for Chinese is quite curved upwards (based on the As my son and nephew got despite their half past six levels).


When I looked at my grand niece AL3 for Chinese, I sort of confirmed my speculation even more (she is a ‘half mute’ during oral conversation throughout her 6 years during school’s practices and usually scored around 50% with teachers’ frequent comment as ‘inaudible’, and I gave up training her on oral as ‘not value for time’), her compo is so-so maybe 65% type, listening is ok around 90%, written is OK around 90%). Her school’s averaged score usually was around 70s. She cannot hold a Chinese conversation or read another Chinese word out from her textbook vocab range (I trained her only for exam purposes due to her ‘limited capacity’).

So this AL3 seemed like a ‘curved score’. Did anyone feel similar (as in your child’s Chinese score is ‘better than expected)’?

Asking out of curiosity.

*She exceeded expectation of Eng and Chinese at AL3 and Science and Math at AL5 when I was forecasting AL5 for Languages (her Eng score in school usually around high 50s / low 60s incl prelim) and Science and an AL6 for Math (failed her Math or barely passed throughout her P6 school exams). It has been a tough 6 years of struggles for her and we are all glad that this segment ends on a higher note.

[zac's mum]

hercules\" post_id=\"2089806\" time=\"1669258618\" user_id=\"14947:

All along (since more than 10 years ago), I believe that the grade for Chinese is quite curved upwards (based on the As my son and nephew got despite their half past six levels).

When I looked at my grand niece AL3 for Chinese, I sort of confirmed my speculation even more (she is a 'half mute' during oral conversation throughout her 6 years during school's practices and usually scored around 50% with teachers' frequent comment as 'inaudible', and I gave up training her on oral as 'not value for time'), her compo is so-so maybe 65% type, listening is ok around 90%, written is OK around 90%). Her school's averaged score usually was around 70s. She cannot hold a Chinese conversation or read another Chinese word out from her textbook vocab range (I trained her only for exam purposes due to her 'limited capacity').

So this AL3 seemed like a 'curved score'. Did anyone feel similar (as in your child's Chinese score is 'better than expected)'?

Asking out of curiosity.

*She exceeded expectation of Eng and Chinese at AL3 and Science and Math at AL5 when I was forecasting AL5 for Languages (her Eng score in school usually around high 50s / low 60s incl prelim) and Science and an AL6 for Math (failed her Math or barely passed throughout her P6 school exams). It has been a tough 6 years of struggles for her and we are all glad that this segment ends on a higher note.

Congrats! Sounds like overall exceeded expectations too.

I dont think the better grade for Chinese was across the board (sorry, theory disbunked). My DS’ Chinese grade stayed the same as prelims despite feeling he did better in Oral and LC and written components. His improvements came in English and Science.

[hercules]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2089811\" time=\"1669259206\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2089811 time=1669259206 user_id=53606]
Congrats! Sounds like overall exceeded expectations too.

I dont think the better grade for Chinese was across the board (sorry, theory disbunked). My DS’ Chinese grade stayed the same as prelims despite feeling he did better in Oral and LC and written components. His improvements came in English and Science.[/quote]

I am half-hearted about her AL16 coz I would prefer her to go into NA to develop and grow at a slower pace but seems like now have no choice but to go into Express (which is never my intention). I feel MOE should give parents a choice to choose NA despite qualified for Express (I know where my GN stands in terms of academics as my training has been all the years focusing on 'exam smart/focused'). I could foresee she struggling even more in sec school Express class that I feel is not a necessary pain for such growing up years that are supposed to be more fun/memorable. (穿着不适合自己的鞋，会痛苦的走四年。）

Perhaps your DS' score has been high enough and at that level, it cannot be curved up anymore (meaning they will only curve up a certain segment below certain marks and not the higher level since AL1 is reserved for only a limited number of students)?

[SG_KP1]

mystique_j\" post_id=\"2089791\" time=\"1669256641\" user_id=\"39431:

How to find out if the school balloted at first choice? Is the stats available somewhere? That will help alot of kids and parents to make that choice decision.

Unfortunately, there are no official stats posted for this. It's only from school comments (sometimes secondhand but if you trust the source can take as good) or observations from friends that were unlucky / what's reported here on where the child was posted.

[Imp75]

zac's mum\" post_id=\"2089811\" time=\"1669259206\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2089811 time=1669259206 user_id=53606]
Congrats! Sounds like overall exceeded expectations too.

I dont think the better grade for Chinese was across the board (sorry, theory disbunked). My DS’ Chinese grade stayed the same as prelims despite feeling he did better in Oral and LC and written components. His improvements came in English and Science.[/quote]

If folks still believe in bell curve even in AL scoring, it is possible that ratings are scaled up. Pre AL, a lot of students who are not so fantastic in CL (ie my kids) could obtain A* (ie 91 and above).

[BaconEgg]

Separate letter only indicate 3rd language choices. No mention of higher mother tongue. Is it automatically being offered based on MOE info about HMT? Eg either AL 8 or above, AL 14 or below with AL 1 or 2 in MT and Merit in HMT?


Pls advise.

My DD scored AL 2 in MT and merit for HMT. Is she eligible to take higher chinese in Sec?

[BaconEgg]

Separate letter only indicate 3rd language choices. No mention of higher mother tongue. Is it automatically being offered based on MOE info about HMT? Eg either AL 8 or above, AL 14 or below with AL 1 or 2 in MT and Merit in HMT?


Pls advise.

My DD scored AL 2 in MT and merit for HMT. Is she eligible to take higher chinese in Sec?

[zac's mum]

hercules\" post_id=\"2089813\" time=\"1669259919\" user_id=\"14947:

I am half-hearted about her AL16 coz I would prefer her to go into NA to develop and grow at a slower pace but seems like now have no choice but to go into Express (which is never my intention). I feel MOE should give parents a choice to choose NA despite qualified for Express (I know where my GN stands in terms of academics as my training has been all the years focusing on 'exam smart/focused'). I could foresee she struggling even more in sec school Express class that I feel is not a necessary pain for such growing up years that are supposed to be more fun/memorable. (穿着不适合自己的鞋，会痛苦的走四年。）

Perhaps your DS' score has been high enough and at that level, it cannot be curved up anymore (meaning they will only curve up a certain segment below certain marks and not the higher level since AL1 is reserved for only a limited number of students)?

I have PM-ed u. My DS’ score is not at that level, nono.