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    • benxB Offline
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      You can choose to take Geography or Econs ( other than Math and all 3 sciences) at NUS undergrad level in later years. Computing acceleration will be taught at Digipen or NUS. The kids are not very welcomed by the undergrads as they usually obtain A pretty easily- wrecking their bell curve. Those who do not achieve A probably got hit by attendance component , and not because they couldn’t do the work. At final years, they have Olympiads or research projects so some do not attend the classes at NUS as regularly. Student feedback is that Science courses at undergrad first year are actually easier and less rigorous (no lab) than the Y5/6 honours level taught within NUSHigh (with lab) so, some of the students who really are out to learn prefer to do their Hons in-house in Y5/6 rather than bragging rights for going to Yr1 courses at NUS. All the teachers at hons level are PhDs anyhow.

      Not all the teachers are phD. They are mostly Batchelors and 50% PhD or Master degree. On this 50% most are Master. phD prefer to teach uni because salary and others are so much higher.

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        Not all the teachers are phD. They are mostly Batchelors and 50% PhD or Master degree. On this 50% most are Master. phD prefer to teach uni because salary and others are so much higher.
        Go talk to the PhDs in the school then. It is unlikely you hv a kid there and just part of the urban myth tribe.

        The PhDs are there because all teachers are part of NuS faculty ( emails are NUS email IDs) and still can teach passionate driven learners while mentoring them and conducting their own research. They then do not have to face the stress of “publish or perish” but still be involved in research independently at NuS facilities and/or with their students.
        They also then can focus on imparting knowledge because they love to teach; and to a comfortable student: teacher ratio. Consultation time is built in to teachers’ schedule .. most other schools will expect the teachers to have consultations out of their already packed schedules. This is why the teachers have time and maintain motivation to nurture. Tuition is almost unheard of (unless it’s an alumni ) given the depth of material so the students request for consultations if they need further help or review.

        One funny tidbit the boarders were sharing was how amazing the cars are at the basement carpark ( for a school) . Of course, it is not a direct gauge but it can be an indication the teachers there are not impoverished ( well unless they rack up insane debt on car loans lol 😂).

        Look up their profiles and you will see they rarely leave (long serving ) while turning out Oxbridge and Ivy quality applicants or Intl and national medals year after year.

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        • benxB Offline
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          phtthp\" post_id=\"2127928\" time=\"1706141287\" user_id=\"35251:

          So much hype, about NUS High.
          Certainly, no doubt about it, NUS High is indeed a good Sec school.


          So many several batches of NUS High graduates, have passed by, have graduated. Some of them, already in their 30s, or aged late 20s.

          NUS High contain the word \"NUS\", inside. This institute is affliated to NUS local University, after studying at the end of Year 6.


          What I would like to know is ...

          what career path have all these NUS High graduates embarked upon, especially in the Maths & Science arena ? Those that are a bit ...unusual ?

          Pls don't mention Engineering, because this is so common. Even IP students from the IPJCs, who did not do well in their A-level, are \"dumped\" into certain Engineering faculties, in our local universities. Because

          that was happened, to some of my friends' sons, after their A level in Top IP-JCs. Won't want to name out these \"dumped\" Engineering faculties, so explicitly.

          Also, no need to mention medical doctors, because this one we all know. NUS High, every year, got a few students who do enter local uni, for medicine. Say, out of per batch of around 170 graduates at Year 6, or more (because Sec 3 onwards, got overseas students joined NUS High), in terms of number(s) or in percentage, is ... small.


          Anyway, engineers and doctors, we all know.

          But what I seldom hear of is, from NUS High, some scientist excel in Maths / Science field and ... discover or invented something. Ah ! This is seldom heard of such stuff...

          Or

          am I ignorant, hence never hear of ?

          Actually, the Dean (Principal) of NUS High ought to share info with parents : where do these NUS High graduates end up in career ? So many past several batches have already graduated. Surely, have sufficient info gathered.

          See !

          It is one thing, to know so many excited, starry eyed P6 students trying to DSAc into this school.
          Entering, is only the beginning.

          But, how u end up in ... is even far more important, than how u have started out, at the starting line.

          For those of us who had gone through life, have u heard of ....

          How or what u end up in, is more important than
          how you started your journey ?
          In history, there have been heros, in the beginning, very popular ! Hailed as so and so. Greatly been respected, basked in glory! But in the end, when they die, they led a sad, miserable life.
          I saw somewhere someone not in this forum, posted that only a few able to get into Med. If I didnt remember wrongly about 3-4 which about the same size as top schools escept R. I also saw in a forum that said most of the students appeared in the first days of reporting to Med auditorium are wearing R uniforms. As I know most of NUSH students ened up in Science and Maths related courses and very little who will take up unrelated to Science and Maths. The students will struggle in unrelated subjects so less students will take the risk.

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          • lucidL Offline
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            I saw somewhere someone not in this forum, posted that only a few able to get into Med. If I didnt remember wrongly about 3-4 which about the same size as top schools escept R. I also saw in a forum that said most of the students appeared in the first days of reporting to Med auditorium are wearing R uniforms. As I know most of NUSH students ened up in Science and Maths related courses and very little who will take up unrelated to Science and Maths. The students will struggle in unrelated subjects so less students will take the risk.
            School stats are 70% end in STEMM ( last m for med). Remaining to business, law humanes etc. They do equally well in law , geography, music and Econs , if they choose to further their preferred domain. There are those who go on to Berkelee College of Music ( math talents seem to associate with music gifts) , Oxbridge Geography, Econs etc
            It’s reasonable to expect that as the kids likely have COMPARATIVE advantage in STEMM over other domains. Comparative advantage does not mean they have competitive disadvantage .. meaning it is likely most can do as well as others but despite that, it’s just more natural with STEMM. Thus, they don’t have to “struggle” ( well maybe mother tongue) but it’s natural to gravitate to what you just are comparatively better at, even though your weaker domain may already be excellent competitively to others.

            This is the biggest misconception/fallacy urban mythers have about this unique school. So tiring to hear “ In that - oh strong in X, therefore weak in Y “ => When it should be … strong in Y but stronger in X . Likewise, it’s not weak in humanes , just good in humanes but better in Sciences. And on CAP, it’s not disregard humanes /languages ; but weighted on humanes/ languages but even higher weightage on Science and Math.

            Hope it clarifies.

            It’s good R is turning out the doctors continuously - in my time , there were 12 doctors out of just 2 GEP classes of 40 pax. If entire school cohort is now 1200, expect remarkably more . Anyhow, the depiction of R uniforms is inconceivable - when they “report” for “welcome tea”, the girls and boys would have graduated the year before, and not have been in school last 5 months. It’s more likely the 19 yr old girls turn up in fashionable streetwear and the boys are botak in NS gear or the occasional old school T shirt!

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              benx\" post_id=\"2127988\" time=\"1706196803\" user_id=\"122909:

              I saw somewhere someone not in this forum, posted that only a few able to get into Med. If I didnt remember wrongly about 3-4 which about the same size as top schools escept R. I also saw in a forum that said most of the students appeared in the first days of reporting to Med auditorium are wearing R uniforms. As I know most of NUSH students ened up in Science and Maths related courses and very little who will take up unrelated to Science and Maths. The students will struggle in unrelated subjects so less students will take the risk.
              There are 21 students in Medicine from NUSH class of 2022, 11 students in YLL, 8 students in LKC and 2 students overseas. This represent 11% of the cohort, not only a few or small percentage.
              And nobody came in their school uniform during white coat ceremony.

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              • healthfreakmummyH Offline
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                phtthp\" post_id=\"2127928\" time=\"1706141287\" user_id=\"35251:

                For those of us who had gone through life, have u heard of ....

                How or what u end up in, is more important than
                how you started your journey ?
                In history, there have been heros, in the beginning, very popular ! Hailed as so and so. Greatly been respected, basked in glory! But in the end, when they die, they led a sad, miserable life.
                Phtthp,

                Have you not heard before of this answer to your question?

                It is not the start of the journey, nor the end of the destination .

                It is the company of whom you have in your journey that is important!

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                • benxB Offline
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                  ryka\" post_id=\"2128014\" time=\"1706245438\" user_id=\"9938:

                  There are 21 students in Medicine from NUSH class of 2022, 11 students in YLL, 8 students in LKC and 2 students overseas. This represent 11% of the cohort, not only a few or small percentage.
                  And nobody came in their school uniform during white coat ceremony.
                  Googled, the intake for Singapore Meds is 500+. Please dont include those study in oversea because each year there will hundreds of students going to oversea uni for meds. So I think the ex NUSH student said a few maybe wrong.

                  I had asked a relative whose child is already a doctor in meds and from R. Most tops scorers prefer to study oversea because of better recognition but the cost is so much high so the parents rejected the costly idea, hahaha. The percentages of meds intake are majority taken by R, then the rest of the top schools. His son always got no 1 among their cohorts in a top Primary School but when in R, he is just a norm. As I noticed, his son is very discipline and the both working parents never need to tell him to do his studies. I even received from the parent a pic of the ceremony after completed MD.

                  About the white coat ceremony, that person in forum didnt write it as a white coat ceremony but said first day. Have you been there?

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                  • benxB Offline
                    benx
                    last edited by

                    phtthp\" post_id=\"2127928\" time=\"1706141287\" user_id=\"35251:

                    So much hype, about NUS High.
                    Certainly, no doubt about it, NUS High is indeed a good Sec school.


                    So many several batches of NUS High graduates, have passed by, have graduated. Some of them, already in their 30s, or aged late 20s.

                    NUS High contain the word \"NUS\", inside. This institute is affliated to NUS local University, after studying at the end of Year 6.


                    What I would like to know is ...

                    what career path have all these NUS High graduates embarked upon, especially in the Maths & Science arena ? Those that are a bit ...unusual ?

                    Pls don't mention Engineering, because this is so common. Even IP students from the IPJCs, who did not do well in their A-level, are \"dumped\" into certain Engineering faculties, in our local universities. Because

                    that was happened, to some of my friends' sons, after their A level in Top IP-JCs. Won't want to name out these \"dumped\" Engineering faculties, so explicitly.

                    Also, no need to mention medical doctors, because this one we all know. NUS High, every year, got a few students who do enter local uni, for medicine. Say, out of per batch of around 170 graduates at Year 6, or more (because Sec 3 onwards, got overseas students joined NUS High), in terms of number(s) or in percentage, is ... small.


                    Anyway, engineers and doctors, we all know.

                    But what I seldom hear of is, from NUS High, some scientist excel in Maths / Science field and ... discover or invented something. Ah ! This is seldom heard of such stuff...

                    Or

                    am I ignorant, hence never hear of ?

                    Actually, the Dean (Principal) of NUS High ought to share info with parents : where do these NUS High graduates end up in career ? So many past several batches have already graduated. Surely, have sufficient info gathered.

                    See !

                    It is one thing, to know so many excited, starry eyed P6 students trying to DSAc into this school.
                    Entering, is only the beginning.

                    But, how u end up in ... is even far more important, than how u have started out, at the starting line.

                    For those of us who had gone through life, have u heard of ....

                    How or what u end up in, is more important than
                    how you started your journey ?
                    In history, there have been heros, in the beginning, very popular ! Hailed as so and so. Greatly been respected, basked in glory! But in the end, when they die, they led a sad, miserable life.
                    Yeah, as per survey revealed in papers that more than a quater to one third are working in irrelevant fields

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                    • benxB Offline
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                      lucid\" post_id=\"2127987\" time=\"1706196056\" user_id=\"14312:

                      Go talk to the PhDs in the school then. It is unlikely you hv a kid there and just part of the urban myth tribe.

                      The PhDs are there because all teachers are part of NuS faculty ( emails are NUS email IDs) and still can teach passionate driven learners while mentoring them and conducting their own research. They then do not have to face the stress of “publish or perish” but still be involved in research independently at NuS facilities and/or with their students.
                      They also then can focus on imparting knowledge because they love to teach; and to a comfortable student: teacher ratio. Consultation time is built in to teachers’ schedule .. most other schools will expect the teachers to have consultations out of their already packed schedules. This is why the teachers have time and maintain motivation to nurture. Tuition is almost unheard of (unless it’s an alumni ) given the depth of material so the students request for consultations if they need further help or review.

                      One funny tidbit the boarders were sharing was how amazing the cars are at the basement carpark ( for a school) . Of course, it is not a direct gauge but it can be an indication the teachers there are not impoverished ( well unless they rack up insane debt on car loans lol 😂).

                      Look up their profiles and you will see they rarely leave (long serving ) while turning out Oxbridge and Ivy quality applicants or Intl and national medals year after year.
                      NUSH web posted too that not all phD, only 50% are Masters and phD. phD holds the upper position in the school. NUS is a parent school of NUSH so of course it must have email from the server.
                      phD and Masters are very busy not as you think only teachings. Master still need to do research papers to upgrade to phD. For example in meds, phD and Master doctors teach, but most of the time spend in hospital.
                      My ex lecturer who was a Master, teaches outside too while works for another company too.

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                      • R Offline
                        ryka
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                        benx\" post_id=\"2128087\" time=\"1706383179\" user_id=\"122909:

                        Googled, the intake for Singapore Meds is 500+. Please dont include those study in oversea because each year there will hundreds of students going to oversea uni for meds. So I think the ex NUSH student said a few maybe wrong.

                        I had asked a relative whose child is already a doctor in meds and from R. Most tops scorers prefer to study oversea because of better recognition but the cost is so much high so the parents rejected the costly idea, hahaha. The percentages of meds intake are majority taken by R, then the rest of the top schools. His son always got no 1 among their cohorts in a top Primary School but when in R, he is just a norm. As I noticed, his son is very discipline and the both working parents never need to tell him to do his studies. I even received from the parent a pic of the ceremony after completed MD.

                        About the white coat ceremony, that person in forum didnt write it as a white coat ceremony but said first day. Have you been there?
                        Total intake for YLL and LKC for 2023 is only around 400 students (250 and 150 respectively), not including Duke NUS since this is post graduate program. Please note there were surge of intake during the COVID period but the number have been moderate down.
                        Absolute quantity wise in each local medicine school is true both R and H (not only R) have the most. This is not surprising since both R and H cohort are the biggest in SG, about 5-6x more than NUSH!
                        Overseas medicine, apart from the cost, may also pose challenges to get residency placement, except one doesn’t intent to practice in SG.
                        Nobody wear secondary school uniform in any chance, at least for the med course, not sure what the person meant by first day? Maybe can elaborate?

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