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    New L1R4 system for JC entry

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    • SG_KP1S Offline
      SG_KP1 @doodbug
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      @doodbug said in New L1R4 system for JC entry:

      My take is probably different. The Singapore A level content is very hard and onerous to me.

      Between RP70 and RP90, for the top A level kids, this is not going to make any difference to the ambitions and stress levels as they will be doing more than excelling at the A levels.

      But this may sound very broad brushed, but I do believe for the middle and weaker performers, RP70 is far less stressful than RP90. Being able to drop one subject and sans burden of PW do make a significant difference.

      You may be right. I agree with your second paragraph, not as sure on the last paragraph (it will probably depend on the person). I think many are going to find out that the distribution just became more bunched and relative standing is still what matters (not entirely but largely so). Of course, some will be able to do better with three main subjects vs. than they could have done with four main subjects, so they may feel better/less stress.

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        @bbbay said in New L1R4 system for JC entry:

        IMHO The observation has been Diploma certs are more valued than A level certs by employers. There isn’t a GP or contrasting subjects requirement in Polytechnics’ specialised courses. My take is, the core subjects are the fried rice that filled you. GP and interdisciplinary studies are sauces than enhance the fried rice. A single bottle of sauce is good for enhancing many plates of fried rice. Sauces are the leaders and we don’t need too many of it? Think NUSC’s been highly selective and interdisciplinary?

        I don’t think we can compare (immediate) employment for a diploma and an A level certificate; the former wasn’t designed to seek employment with that certificate itself?

        Anyways, I disagree on the core subjects. If we look at PCM/BCM, how many students actually make use of all three of them in their job, or even university for that matter? Medicine? OK. Chemical Engineering? OK. Econ, Business, Law, CS? More than half of the core would never be touched again.

        The two subjects/skills you can’t get around? Math and English. There are some things you just can’t do without math, but if I had to be great in one and terrible in the other, I’d pick being great in English.

        This is why I think the contrasting subject should have been kept in the calculation. Not for the score itself but for the additional attention/effort a required subject gathers and the underlying skill development. Or, if they wanted to reduce the calculation to three subjects, the contrasting subject should have been one of them (although this would have been a problem for those who take the contrasting at H1 level).

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          CNA Deep Dive (audio) podcast:

          Steven Chia & Crispina Roberts interview Chan Chun Sing on the L1R4 changes (and other education issues):

          https://www.channelnewsasia.com/podcasts/changes-jc-admission-not-increase-competition-stress-chan-chun-sing-deep-dive-podcast-4995241?cid=internal_sharetool_iphone_14032025_cna

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                  I recall the 3 local universities I visited during open house have a common curriculum all their undergraduates have to take up regardless of their majors. I look up the details but could not found it for NUS

                  NTU:
                  https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/ntu-introduces-new-core-curriculum-for-6000-freshmen-starting-from

                  SMU:
                  https://cis.smu.edu.sg/sites/cis.smu.edu.sg/files/2025-02/SMU_UG_CIS_School Brochure_2025_spread_v3-compressed.pdf

                  This SMU link point to CIS school but the common curriculum shown is the same for all SMU’s schools

                  these common curriculum offer contrasting subjects to students on top of their major curriculum.

                  NTU has a communication and inquiry as a common curriculum. SMU has a writing and reasoning, but as one of the option to choose under 1 of the common curriculum pillars. These 2 subjects could be close continuation to JC’s GP.

                  Secondary school’s contrasting subjects humanity+science/math are compulsory for JC admission.

                  In JC, students continue to hone their writing skill with GP. Now that JC contrasting subject will lose their weight, the question on whether it will negatively affect students ability to handle Uni contrasting subjects requirements. I do not know. But JC contrasting subject losing its weight affects all students equally. All JC students have the same preparation starting point for university education. Those students that go on to handle university contrasting subjects well, their results will reflect it. All universities graduates will be the fried rice that fill the stomach. Those universities graduates that handles contrasting subjects well will be the flavorful fried rice that fill the stomach

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                    @bbbay The NUS common curriculums are by School / Faculty. Common curriculums will have both quantitative and qualitative type of courses.

                    The top A level students will want to do well in all 4H2s (including the contrasting subject) - some will even read H3 in the contrasting subject.

                    I certainly hope the move to RP70 will help relieve some stress of students who are not planning to chiong for 7 or 8As.

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                      bbbay @zac's mum
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                      @zac-s-mum I like the part on a child took his/her time, went thru Normal stream, poly and then PhD.

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                        Hi parents,

                        This is certainly quite a significant change that was recently announced. We have also shared an article on our website outlining our thoughts on the impact of this change.

                        You may find the article link here. Feel free to let us know your thoughts.

                        Best,
                        Educare Tutoring

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