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    New L1R4 system for JC entry

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    • EducareTutoringE Offline
      EducareTutoring
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      Hi parents,

      This is certainly quite a significant change that was recently announced. We have also shared an article on our website outlining our thoughts on the impact of this change.

      You may find the article link here. Feel free to let us know your thoughts.

      Best,
      Educare Tutoring

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      • chenlaoshiC Offline
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        Deep Dive podcast - Changes to JC admission not meant to increase stress: Chan Chun Sing
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJDMtSYzl38

        From 2028, students who want to go to a junior college will only need a total of five subjects instead of six. The change is meant to ease academic load, but whether it reduces stress for students and parents remains to be seen.

        Singapore Education Minister Chan Chun Sing sits down with Steven Chia and Crispina Robert to unpack the changes.

        0:00 Minister Chan takes the hot seat
        0:58 Recap of changes to JC admission
        1:36 Minister Chan discovers his love for …
        4:23 Will the changes reduce stress?
        9:43 Do our students have the joy of learning?
        14:15 Don’t learn just for exams
        15:40 Don’t compare your kids to others
        21:12 Gap between JC and poly narrowing
        24:20 Tuition gone wrong
        29:25 Minister Chan scores 93 and is still not the best
        34:00 Can a non-graduate become the PM

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        • Glashtyn1234G Offline
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          The new L1R4 system shift reduces the number of subjects considered for eligibility, making the selection process more focused and competitive. While the new system aims to streamline admissions, it also has several implications for students, schools, and tuition centers. You can get some insightfuls details [here](link url).

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          • zac's mumZ Offline
            zac's mum @zac's mum
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            Sigh. I heard that some schools are considering not offering any pure Humanities for next year’s sec 3 batch (the first batch using L1R4 for JC entry). Their assumption is that double science combis will still be more popular & therefore no demand expected for double Humanities. What a sad consequence of this system.

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            • SG_KP1S Offline
              SG_KP1 @zac's mum
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              Yikes, that is unfortunate. However, I can’t say it’s surprising (despite all of the people saying those who want to do more still can do so).

              Good thing is that there are many online resources these days, but this just favours those who are in the know, resourceful, self-motivated, etc.

              I take it the standard will be seven subjects?

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              • zac's mumZ Offline
                zac's mum @SG_KP1
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                @SG_KP1 the current range at my son’s school is 6-8 subjects (with the “better” classes taking 8), so i guess the new range would be 5-7. I wonder whether the timetable will change to earlier dismissals due to 1 less subject?

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                  @zac-s-mum said in New L1R4 system for JC entry:

                  Sigh. I heard that some schools are considering not offering any pure Humanities for next year’s sec 3 batch (the first batch using L1R4 for JC entry). Their assumption is that double science combis will still be more popular & therefore no demand expected for double Humanities. What a sad consequence of this system.

                  What? possibly no option to take even a single full Humanities? That is really sad to me.

                  In the UK where higher education is known to be pretty narrow/in depth, the norm is to do 8 to 10 GCSEs (i.e. O level subjects). I’m a big advocate on broad exposure in the early years. Singapore’s primary school education is already narrow to me, and would prefer that students get more opportunities for academic breath in Sec School.

                  How many kids would have the courage to read Lit, History or Geog at A levels if they had not done so at O levels? Ditto with Physics, Chem, Bio and arguably Computing.

                  Is this a drastic reduction of workload for teachers then? First, school assessments have reduced by much. From CA1/SA1/CA2/SA2 full exam papers, now teachers are setting and marking much smaller tests. Second, if students take 7 instead of 8 subjects, does this mean each school need fewer teachers?

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                  • sharonkhooS Offline
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                    Is it now the policy that all schools restrict students to a max of 7 O levels? Or is that the “normal” with exceptions possible? In my day, the “normal” was 7 O levels, sometimes 6, but most schools would allow some students to take 8, even 9 O levels. And the no. of subjects required for JC entry was 5, just like now.

                    It’s really sad if students cannot take more humanities subjects at O levels unless they choose to drop sciences. That’s even worse than in my day, before the Humanities scholarships were introduced! Like reversing the past 40 years. I hope there will be enough sensible pro-Humanities people who will make a fuss about this. Why do we have so many experts in the field of education who can come up with this kind of policy?

                    And given the recent articles about how students are using gen AI to write, and students who use more gen AI are less creative, it really does seem that the human race is going backwards rather than forwards!

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                    • zac's mumZ Offline
                      zac's mum @sharonkhoo
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                      If fewer schools offer full Literature (which contains an additional Paper 2 on a Drama text), then I really weep for our local Performing Arts scene as well.

                      This was a play that I’d brought my son to watch, the performance of which was excellent. The subject content, very relatable for teens, and for parents - a lens into their teenager’s world.

                      It would have benefitted a whole generation of O level students to study this Lit text in school & have some soul-searching discussions on the themes. I am still crying.

                      “We are thrilled to learn that HARD MODE, written by Associate Artistic Director and playwright Faith Ng, will be offered as an examinable text for the GCE ‘O’ Levels Literature in English! It will be the sole Singapore text included in the 2028 syllabus for Paper 2: Drama.

                      We have always felt it crucial that our youth are immersed in our own narratives, language, and issues – and for them to see Singapore stories represented on an international stage. Having HARD MODE on the syllabus showcases an important voice of contemporary Singapore writing, and provides an entry point to Literature, English, and Drama that’s immediately relevant to all Singapore students.

                      We are incredibly proud of Faith, the entire Checkpoint Theatre team, and the HARD MODE creatives who have worked tirelessly to bring this original Singapore story to the stage, including director Claire Wong and dramaturg Huzir Sulaiman.

                      We extend our heartfelt thanks to the National Arts Council for commissioning the work and to the Ministry of Education for taking this hugely significant step.

                      And thank you, dear audience, for the support you’ve shown this original Singapore story, allowing it to reach and touch the lives of many more young people, and for supporting the work we do at Checkpoint Theatre.”

                      (Quoted from Checkpoint Theatre’s Facebook page)

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                      • SG_KP1S Offline
                        SG_KP1 @SG_KP1
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                        I guess it would be even worse for the non-science kids that want to take 2 humanities (1 full and 1 split with ss). At the As, I guess you could take whichever one you took in upper sec, Econ, and then ELL? Or take a swing at History (if you took EL Lit in upper secondary)? If one didn’t take in upper secondary, I feel like History is probably easier than Lit to take at the As.

                        Computing probably has a large self-selection bias of kids that can already do most of the stuff. I don’t think that many schools have a full computing class in upper secondary (I believe many have modules or ways to gain some exposure).

                        I’m also for more breadth at the secondary level. Unfortunately, the focus tends to gravitate towards exam scoring or perceived stress/workload rather than actual learning/acquiring different skills/knowledge.

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