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    P2 Math - General Discussion

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    • M Offline
      mmmouse
      last edited by

      Hi all


      I thought only my dd is confused with such statement…I am glad I am not alone as I am also having problem teaching her this sort of questions.

      I think we have to move away with getting them to memorise steps or formula and make them understand concepts.

      In my workplace which is very international, I see that the caucasians are alot better in their mental calculation than us, Chinese. Somehow, their mind process nos very differently!

      I am going to try using "macrononi" to teach Math. I show her the logic of the question by demonstrating the answer using the macrononi and then, test her again with other similar questions and see if she gets the concept. On the other hand, I also feel that English plays a part! For those who have stronger English background, they tend to understand quicker.

      Not sure I make sense here…anyone has better ideas, please share.

      JJ

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        san76
        last edited by

        mmmouse:
        Hi all


        I thought only my dd is confused with such statement....I am glad I am not alone as I am also having problem teaching her this sort of questions.

        I think we have to move away with getting them to memorise steps or formula and make them understand concepts.

        In my workplace which is very international, I see that the caucasians are alot better in their mental calculation than us, Chinese. Somehow, their mind process nos very differently!

        I am going to try using \"macrononi\" to teach Math. I show her the logic of the question by demonstrating the answer using the macrononi and then, test her again with other similar questions and see if she gets the concept. On the other hand, I also feel that English plays a part! For those who have stronger English background, they tend to understand quicker.

        Not sure I make sense here.....anyone has better ideas, please share.

        JJ

        Dear Mmmouse,

        I strongly agree with you, all these are english. Understand it and
        it will be easy.

        Let her practice and practice, sure no problem. My son overcome this problem after I explained to him the meaning of these few words he is ok now.

        Try to create more question for her to do.

        If you use \"macoroni\" you must have full patience. When somrthing new is introduce to a kid, they will need time to adapt and understand it. As she is facing confusion by the maths, so make it easy for her.

        Update us your teaching method. I can try out if it works. Hee Hee!!!

        :celebrate:
        Happy learning!!!

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          usaik
          last edited by

          [Moderator's note: Topics merged.]


          Hi,

          Anyone here know whether is working required or expected for Maths problem sums these days? Can just give answer without doing working? If answer correct but no working, will it still be a full score for the answer?

          In addition, I need help on the WORKING for the following problem. Really hope someone here could help.

          A shop sold oranges and apples packed as follow.
          bag of 10 oranges. (A diagram is printed showing a bag with 10 oranges)
          bag of 5 apples. (A diagram is printed showing a bag with 5 apples)
          For every 10 oranges Madam Esah bought, she also bought 5 apples. She bought 20 oranges. How many bags of fruids did she buy altogether?
          (Hint : Draw a diagram to help you solve)

          Anyone know what is the kind of diagram expected for P2 Maths working for this kind of sum? My son can get the correct answer but just couldn't draw the digram. And I also can't help him either. Anyone here can help?

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            buds
            last edited by

            usaik:


            Hi,

            Anyone here know whether is working required or expected for Maths problem sums these days? Can just give answer without doing working? If answer correct but no working, will it still be a full score for the answer?

            In addition, I need help on the WORKING for the following problem. Really hope someone here could help.

            A shop sold oranges and apples packed as follow.
            bag of 10 oranges. (A diagram is printed showing a bag with 10 oranges)
            bag of 5 apples. (A diagram is printed showing a bag with 5 apples)
            For every 10 oranges Madam Esah bought, she also bought 5 apples. She bought 20 oranges. How many bags of fruids did she buy altogether?
            (Hint : Draw a diagram to help you solve)

            Anyone know what is the kind of diagram expected for P2 Maths working for this kind of sum? My son can get the correct answer but just couldn't draw the digram. And I also can't help him either. Anyone here can help?
            Heyya usaik,

            I usually just ask my kiddies to do all workings.
            So in case the answer is written wrongly or carelessly
            written wrongly, the diagrams, drawings or picture workings
            will still carry marks for the questions. So rather than an ultimate
            zero, there'll be some \"save\" marks for them. If the instructions
            clearly states, please indicate working..... then definitely must include
            lah but compulsory or not - that i'm not sure... Mebbe it varies between
            schools? I find that a complete working also helps to show that the answer
            was derived from her own train of thought and not glimpsed and copied
            from next-seated-neighbour...

            If this question requires a diagram, (and a school question) - the textbook
            would have shown the children (and parents) how the workings have been
            introduced to the children to do in class. Mebbe you can ask him if the
            teacher has done so and also flip his Maths Textbook..

            As for the workings and diagrams, it could be ...


            http://www.postimage.org/


            There can be other versions too.
            If other parents can share, i'd love it too! :please:
            Hope to learn from one another here, to help our kids better.
            Thanks in advance and much appreciated. 😉

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            • B Offline
              buds
              last edited by

              Heyya all...

              Western parents especially...

              Share with you this lobang
              if you haven't already known
              about it lah that is...


              http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1brSnr


              A push-cart sales lady at Bt
              Panjang Plaza offered me...

              P2 : S$35.00 for 2 subjects
              and if i came with another
              friend (ie. recommend)...
              say friend's child is in P4,
              she'll get P4 : $45 for 3 subjects.

              The schools' test papers are in
              the leaflet given to me above..
              Want to find out though... is this
              standard market price for test
              papers or not? Cheaper or more
              expensive?

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              • B Offline
                buds
                last edited by

                Oh ya, btw… was told by a friend that

                such test papers got copyright laws…
                Dunno to which extent the sale of
                these test papers are legal… but
                printed ones from Popular are the
                safely compiled ones and allowed
                sale?

                Anyone has any thought on this…
                Tks in advance.

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                • ChiefKiasuC Offline
                  ChiefKiasu
                  last edited by

                  buds:
                  ...P2 : S$35.00 for 2 subjects

                  and if i came with another
                  friend (ie. recommend)...
                  say friend's child is in P4,
                  she'll get P4 : $45 for 3 subjects...
                  I got my full-pack (4 subjects) for P4 at $50 at the Marine Parade \"permanent\" booth. I buy one set every year. To me, this is an essential purchase for all school children. I don't bother with other assessment books at all.

                  Anyway, the same set can be downloaded from the well-known misskoh.com for free. But you have to print them out yourself, which could add up to about the same cost.

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                    buds
                    last edited by

                    ChiefKiasu:
                    buds:

                    ...P2 : S$35.00 for 2 subjects

                    and if i came with another
                    friend (ie. recommend)...
                    say friend's child is in P4,
                    she'll get P4 : $45 for 3 subjects...

                    I got my full-pack (4 subjects) for P4 at $50 at the Marine Parade \"permanent\" booth. I buy one set every year. To me, this is an essential purchase for all school children. I don't bother with other assessment books at all.

                    Anyway, the same set can be downloaded from the well-known misskoh.com for free. But you have to print them out yourself, which could add up to about the same cost.

                    Thanks Chief! Wah, then yours cheaper.
                    Or rather value for money. From same
                    schools? Check for me lah how much
                    for P2, if you pass by again... TIA! :please:
                    Downloading i'm not interested lah...
                    Though convenient (from the home),
                    too much time wasted on churning the
                    thing and not to mention the paper... the
                    ink catridges... the stapling... wah lau...
                    just verbalizing it and imagining the workload
                    is tiring enough... oso later, not much time to
                    come here and chit chat with you all.. Heheh.. 😉

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                      usaik
                      last edited by

                      Hi Buds,

                      Thanks so much for sharing your working. (How did you do that really nice working {digram} and post on the forum?)

                      Wonder would you also know is there any difference on the following statements for stick B and stick C… I remember seeing them somewhere…but not in the same problem sum, but just put it into one example as below…

                      Stick A is 5 cm long.
                      Stick B is 2 times as long as stick A. How long is Stick B?
                      Stick C is 2 times longer than stick A. How long is Stick C?

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                      • corneyAmberC Offline
                        corneyAmber
                        last edited by

                        http://i724.photobucket.com/albums/ww246/ks2me/P2Mathsticks-1.jpg\">


                        I have shared before in one of the thread that this can be done on powerpoint. Then upload to a site hosting picture files and then insert here as image.

                        Hope this helps.

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