Pri 1 child attacked by 5 classmates

[dunnoleh]

Sun_2010:

... I think as a society we fail.


Ltes just remind ourselves it takes a village to raise a child.

such problems exist in all societies, and we did not fail badly as compared to many others.
I believe this is so partly because of strong deterrent actions taken by the authorities against violent offenders.
With young offenders, administering an early deterrent could save them from a much more painful one in adult life.

[Daddy D]

mintcc:

after reading the news also can't help but wonder :?


Where are the teachers? 5 kids beat up another one in school grounds right before assembly and no one stop them?

P1 kid can run out of school during school hours? :!:

Even when I was in P1 many many years ago the school gates are guarded by prefect before assembly and locked after that. There will always be teachers around during assembly

Perhaps the report is a bit flawed... puzzles me as well.
Can run around in sch and get beaten up... and no teachers around?

[Sun_2010]

dunnoleh:

Sun_2010:

... I think as a society we fail.


Ltes just remind ourselves it takes a village to raise a child.

such problems exist in all societies, and we did not fail badly as compared to many others.
I believe this is so partly because of strong deterrent actions taken by the authorities against violent offenders.
With young offenders, administering an early deterrent could save them from a much more painful one in adult life.

Yeah probably \"fail as a society\" is not right.

We are doing good so far, but these are the cracks that we could fill if only the stakeholders involved introspect a little deeper

What i want to point out is, bad though this incident is it is red flag raised for the community to act, to check. a Deterent is good, in fact essential but is only a part of the solution.

These kids are more likely the ones who will cause greater problems, so correcting them is a selfish act

The wise saying is
\"Spare the rod and spoil the child\"

But do note it did not say the converse
\"Use the rod and the child will turn out alright\"

[dunnoleh]

Sun_2010:

... The wise saying is

\"Spare the rod and spoil the child\"

But do note it did not say the converse
\"Use the rod and the child will turn out alright\"

fully agree with you.
A deterrent can only discourage,
not an ingredient to make a good person.
But, effective in keeping a society reasonably safe.
A good person is the result of so much more, ...

[tankee]

mintcc:

after reading the news also can't help but wonder :?


Where are the teachers? 5 kids beat up another one in school grounds right before assembly and no one stop them?

P1 kid can run out of school during school hours? :!:

Even when I was in P1 many many years ago the school gates are guarded by prefect before assembly and locked after that. There will always be teachers around during assembly

exactly the same questions i have :?

[tankee]

Sun_2010:

....These kids are more likely the ones who will cause greater problems, so correcting them is a selfish act


The wise saying is
\"Spare the rod and spoil the child\"

But do note it did not say the converse
\"Use the rod and the child will turn out alright\"

while I agreed with 100% that the bullies must be punished and corrected.

but I do not believe in using the rod. There are many other more effective forms of punishments.

[cnimed]

I would really like to know what school that is.


I think all the kids need counselling, and the school needs to have a stronger stand on discipline. It does not serve the victim well to just punish the others, without also sending him the message that he can stand up for himself in other ways if necessary. Running out of the school is pretty extreme, and I think he needs more help than the "bullies".

[art_n_i]

Quintessential Mum:

Not really, i heard of cases in mixed primary schools that the boys actually bully the girls and do all sort of stuff to the girls like lift up their skirts, touch them inappropriately etc especially if they are pretty. FYI, these \"bullies\" are from middle/upper income families and the school is a reputable school in central Singapore. :roll:

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[dimsum]

Daddy

dimsum:

My boy is in N2 and was taunted by a K2 boy. He called him names right in front of his parents but guess what, they did not stop or chide him at all!After that, he continued to do that everytime he bumped in my DS. One teacher heard it but pretended as if nothing happened. I asked my DS to feedback to another teacher. Again, no action taken. They probably felt it's a \"trivial\" matter? This is one boy who will become a bully soon.


I asked my DS to ignore him and educated him that name calling is wrong. He understands and bochap him.

Huh? Like tat also can? Anything offensive or just joking?
If offensive, I think you should step in correct the K2 boy in front of his parents then.
I teach my K1 gal to shout \"STOP IT\" if her friends does anything unpleasant to her... dunno whether it works or not.

Name calling everytime he bumped into him (chanting non-stop) - it's not a joke to me. My mum did step in when he taunted my DS again. She told him it's wrong to do so. Well, no use, he continued to do that.

[vicki]

Daddy

dimsum:

My boy is in N2 and was taunted by a K2 boy. He called him names right in front of his parents but guess what, they did not stop or chide him at all!After that, he continued to do that everytime he bumped in my DS. One teacher heard it but pretended as if nothing happened. I asked my DS to feedback to another teacher. Again, no action taken. They probably felt it's a \"trivial\" matter? This is one boy who will become a bully soon.


I asked my DS to ignore him and educated him that name calling is wrong. He understands and bochap him.

Huh? Like tat also can? Anything offensive or just joking?
If offensive, I think you should step in correct the K2 boy in front of his parents then.
I teach my K1 gal to shout \"STOP IT\" if her friends does anything unpleasant to her... dunno whether it works or not.

I also told my boy to yell \"STOP IT!!\" (It works!) But then - i think my boy is also quite naggy - if you taunt him too much - and the teacher still have no re-action - he will nag at either the teacher or the boy UNTIL so thing is done!!

Haha - last week we were at Plaza Singapura queuing up for one of the kinnect games and this gal (abt his age) kept standing behind him and coughing into his hair - he turned around and told her off \"STOP IT LAH YOU - WHY YOU KEEP COUGHING IN MY HAIR) - Sadly - her mother who is behind her - ignored to tell her to \"cover her mouth\" and just treated it as a NO ISSUE.

Nonetheless - im quite glad my boy stood up to such a incosiderate person (haha - well - i DID train him to stand for his own right from young!)