Pri 1 child attacked by 5 classmates

[dunnoleh]

Sun_2010:

... The wise saying is

\"Spare the rod and spoil the child\"

But do note it did not say the converse
\"Use the rod and the child will turn out alright\"

fully agree with you.
A deterrent can only discourage,
not an ingredient to make a good person.
But, effective in keeping a society reasonably safe.
A good person is the result of so much more, ...

[tankee]

mintcc:

after reading the news also can't help but wonder :?


Where are the teachers? 5 kids beat up another one in school grounds right before assembly and no one stop them?

P1 kid can run out of school during school hours? :!:

Even when I was in P1 many many years ago the school gates are guarded by prefect before assembly and locked after that. There will always be teachers around during assembly

exactly the same questions i have :?

[tankee]

Sun_2010:

....These kids are more likely the ones who will cause greater problems, so correcting them is a selfish act


The wise saying is
\"Spare the rod and spoil the child\"

But do note it did not say the converse
\"Use the rod and the child will turn out alright\"

while I agreed with 100% that the bullies must be punished and corrected.

but I do not believe in using the rod. There are many other more effective forms of punishments.

[cnimed]

I would really like to know what school that is.


I think all the kids need counselling, and the school needs to have a stronger stand on discipline. It does not serve the victim well to just punish the others, without also sending him the message that he can stand up for himself in other ways if necessary. Running out of the school is pretty extreme, and I think he needs more help than the "bullies".

[art_n_i]

Quintessential Mum:

Not really, i heard of cases in mixed primary schools that the boys actually bully the girls and do all sort of stuff to the girls like lift up their skirts, touch them inappropriately etc especially if they are pretty. FYI, these \"bullies\" are from middle/upper income families and the school is a reputable school in central Singapore. :roll:

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[dimsum]

Daddy

dimsum:

My boy is in N2 and was taunted by a K2 boy. He called him names right in front of his parents but guess what, they did not stop or chide him at all!After that, he continued to do that everytime he bumped in my DS. One teacher heard it but pretended as if nothing happened. I asked my DS to feedback to another teacher. Again, no action taken. They probably felt it's a \"trivial\" matter? This is one boy who will become a bully soon.


I asked my DS to ignore him and educated him that name calling is wrong. He understands and bochap him.

Huh? Like tat also can? Anything offensive or just joking?
If offensive, I think you should step in correct the K2 boy in front of his parents then.
I teach my K1 gal to shout \"STOP IT\" if her friends does anything unpleasant to her... dunno whether it works or not.

Name calling everytime he bumped into him (chanting non-stop) - it's not a joke to me. My mum did step in when he taunted my DS again. She told him it's wrong to do so. Well, no use, he continued to do that.

[vicki]

Daddy

dimsum:

My boy is in N2 and was taunted by a K2 boy. He called him names right in front of his parents but guess what, they did not stop or chide him at all!After that, he continued to do that everytime he bumped in my DS. One teacher heard it but pretended as if nothing happened. I asked my DS to feedback to another teacher. Again, no action taken. They probably felt it's a \"trivial\" matter? This is one boy who will become a bully soon.


I asked my DS to ignore him and educated him that name calling is wrong. He understands and bochap him.

Huh? Like tat also can? Anything offensive or just joking?
If offensive, I think you should step in correct the K2 boy in front of his parents then.
I teach my K1 gal to shout \"STOP IT\" if her friends does anything unpleasant to her... dunno whether it works or not.

I also told my boy to yell \"STOP IT!!\" (It works!) But then - i think my boy is also quite naggy - if you taunt him too much - and the teacher still have no re-action - he will nag at either the teacher or the boy UNTIL so thing is done!!

Haha - last week we were at Plaza Singapura queuing up for one of the kinnect games and this gal (abt his age) kept standing behind him and coughing into his hair - he turned around and told her off \"STOP IT LAH YOU - WHY YOU KEEP COUGHING IN MY HAIR) - Sadly - her mother who is behind her - ignored to tell her to \"cover her mouth\" and just treated it as a NO ISSUE.

Nonetheless - im quite glad my boy stood up to such a incosiderate person (haha - well - i DID train him to stand for his own right from young!)

[Faun]

Daddy

3Boys:

Bullying in schools have been happening since time immemorial, long before internet.


Many of the bullies have self image issues, come from broken families.

Although their behaviour cannot be condoned, just whipping them and then leaving them to their own devices is not the solution. Next thing they are at Bukit Panjang slashing passers-by.

Punishment and discipline needs to be coupled with compassion and rehab, no matter how distasteful that may be to the parents of the victims.

If the kids are beyond parental control... esp at such young age... then something is very wrong... and the last thing on my mind is compassion.
Spare the rod... spoil the child.

They can only get worst when older...

Besides bullies... parents should teach their kids how to deal with bullies... and be aware of what's going on in sch.


To let the tauntings escalate to become beatings... all parties are at fault.

Use the rod, and we show that we are no better by using violence. The bullies need help and understanding. They are like that because of the environment they grow up in and also to a certain extent, their natural inborn temperament. I don't think they choose to be bad. They're probably very hungry for love and attention. I think taking away privileges and counseling is a better solution.

[Faun]

dimsum:

My boy is in N2 and was taunted by a K2 boy. He called him names right in front of his parents but guess what, they did not stop or chide him at all!After that, he continued to do that everytime he bumped in my DS. One teacher heard it but pretended as if nothing happened. I asked my DS to feedback to another teacher. Again, no action taken. They probably felt it's a \"trivial\" matter? This is one boy who will become a bully soon.


I asked my DS to ignore him and educated him that name calling is wrong. He understands and bochap him.

Verbal bullying is sometimes worse then physical bullying because we have no evidence to show the teacher. It can also appear very trivial to the teacher. We try to tell our kids Stick And Stones Can Break My Bones But Words Can Never Hurt Me. But it'll hurt. Even adults can't take verbal bullying, let alone kids.

I think it's better not to take verbal bullying lightly and call for the form teacher's attention to monitor the situation.

[cherrygal]

I tell my son to make friends quickly in P1 and surround himself with friends so that bullies won't pick on him. From young, he's also a complain king so if anyone touches him, he will yell for the teacher. I also told him who the discipline master is so he should look for him if he gets bullied. Lastly, always get the kid to tell mom if anyone bullies him. We must train our kids to be open with their last line of defence - the parents, no matter what age they are.


My son was taunted a couple of times by his Berries classmate. He was sad about it and I tried to counsel him. I told him such kids are usually lonely and just seeking his attention. If he appeared affected by their verbal taunts, then he is falling into their trap coz they will be happier. So the way to stop them is to act nonchalant.

My son then tried to avoid the bully at his lessons. One day, he had to sit next to this bully in class. When the bully told him he couldn't sit there, my son actually stood up to him and said, \"Too bad, there are no other seats so I have to sit next to you.\" The bully was speechless. He has stopped taunting my son too.