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    Petition to Review the Singapore Education System

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    • M Offline
      mrspan
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      I support this petition

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        1G2B
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        Very well said. Definitely support the petition.

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          vividlaurel
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          This is a subject I am quite passionate about! So YES I do support this petition!


          I also heard the education minister say during one of his election speeches that they aim for 30% of a cohort to enter university and almost at the same time say the education system is one of the best in the world!

          If this was so, then why just 30% of a cohort for university admissions? Isn't the other 70% just as capable? Ok I understand that some will not want to go on to Uni, but of the remaining 70%, I am sure that atleast 50% of them will want to study furhter? Why are we depriving them and instead filling our universitiies with foreign students? How many of us can afford a foreign university education for our children?

          My kids are still in Primary school, but unless this is not debated now, come 10-12 years down the line, we have a whole host of Singaporean children whose parents have scimped and saved for their foreign education who will never come back! The system needs to be changed and this change should start at the foundation - which is the Primary school system!

          Sorry for the rant.... :mad:

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            foreverj
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            I support this petition.


            Interestingly, my hubby recently commented that its interesting how our society has progressed in terms of cost and quality of living and yet the class size today is no different from 30, 40 years ago when we were kids. Ironically, the level of difficulty in the exams has increased so much, likely due to the factors listed in chenonceau's article. Honestly, I believe human evolution does not happen that fast!!! :razz: I shudder to think of the kind of stressful learning environmt my 5 yr old has to go thru - this is not the way I want her to learn and grow up in.

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              3Boys
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              Human evolution does not occur so quickly, but social evolution evolves on a much more rapid timeline. Average life expectancy just 200 years ago was in the 40s-50s, societal changes driven by nutrition, hygiene and healthcare have driven that up significantly. I believe the same is happening in education. As with MRT and HDB, unfortunately the infrastructure has not kept up, which is where the private tuition things comes in. At risk of sounding like the MIW, I do generally believe in levelling up, as opposed to levelling down, but it needs to to be a sincere effort to help the disadvantaged.

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                Chenonceau
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                3Boys:
                Human evolution does not occur so quickly, but social evolution evolves on a much more rapid timeline. Average life expectancy just 200 years ago was in the 40s-50s, societal changes driven by nutrition, hygiene and healthcare have driven that up significantly. I believe the same is happening in education. As with MRT and HDB, unfortunately the infrastructure has not kept up, which is where the private tuition things comes in. At risk of sounding like the MIW, I do generally believe in levelling up, as opposed to levelling down, but it needs to to be a sincere effort to help the disadvantaged.

                I believe in levelling up too. Yes... yes... I do. Otherwise, Singapore cannot compete. I like the part you said about he teaching infrastructure needing to keep up. Like HDB and MRT. The speed at which the standards level up needs to keep pace with the Teaching Infrastructure development. The use of the bell curve needs to be tempered with reason. Cannot just blindly apply the bell curve. Many educators apply the bell curve without really understanding why it is done... and without understanding, there is no control... and the train runs away, out of control.

                This not about future. Our kids suffer NOW.

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                  Chenonceau
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                  vividlaurel:
                  This is a subject I am quite passionate about! So YES I do support this petition!


                  I also heard the education minister say during one of his election speeches that they aim for 30% of a cohort to enter university and almost at the same time say the education system is one of the best in the world!

                  If this was so, then why just 30% of a cohort for university admissions? Isn't the other 70% just as capable? Ok I understand that some will not want to go on to Uni, but of the remaining 70%, I am sure that atleast 50% of them will want to study furhter? Why are we depriving them and instead filling our universitiies with foreign students? How many of us can afford a foreign university education for our children?

                  My kids are still in Primary school, but unless this is not debated now, come 10-12 years down the line, we have a whole host of Singaporean children whose parents have scimped and saved for their foreign education who will never come back! The system needs to be changed and this change should start at the foundation - which is the Primary school system!

                  Sorry for the rant.... :mad:
                  Rant away! You make sense even when ranting.

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                    Wesim
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                    I support this petition.

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                      kaka
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                      Done on the poll. I support the petition.


                      My thoughts on the bell curve:
                      The top 10% or so in the bell curve has been moving upwards as competition stiffer and children gets extra support to do well, teaching in school alone is not enough to compete in the top 10% as before. The top primary schools need to stay in the top ranking of PSLE, thus the drilling, streaming, focus on academics etc. The kids in these school need to perform as the school reputation, teachers KPIs etc are at stake.

                      The next 40% or so in the bell curve tried to squeeze into the top 10% or just maintain in the express stream, with Singapore becoming a tuition nation, in order to stay in this part of the curve, extra support outside school becomes a norm.

                      The bottom 50% or so probably lack support as much as those in the top 50%. The parents of the lower income group are struggling to make end meets, no resouces for tuition and no parental support for the children.

                      The widdening gap is worrying.

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                        partime-mum
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                        I heard from my friends whose kids are asked to write a "Journal" during the 1st week of Primary 1. I am wondering whether it is supposed to be a "Journal" to be written by parents, so that teacher knows what is the commitment and educational standards of the parents??? I think it is ridiculous to expect a P1 kid write a Journal during the 1st week of school. Does MOE expect that all P1 kids have been taught Grammar and Vocabulary prior to start of P1? Does our government expect all mothers to be SAHM and coach the kids personally before our kids start P1? Or does the government that all kids has been tuitioned before they start P1? I hope MOE can review the standard that it has set for the students, as well as for us, working parents.

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