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      sassypink
      last edited by

      Hi Felixbebe


      I chanced upon this forum and read with great interest of your sharing of nose spa therapy. My kids encounter sensitive nose since young, thus I am keen to find out more about this treatment.

      Understand from western doctor, frequent drinking or eating of hot drinks and food will hurt the throat thus might lead to cancer. With the frequent usage of this nose spa which requires steaming (temperature), does it hurt the nose eventually?

      Also, is the medication used is HSA certified?

      Sorry that if you happened to receive this mail more then once, as i don’t seem to be able to submit my enquiry previously.

      Hope to hear from you soon.

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        chillyred
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        sassypink:
        Hi Felixbebe


        I chanced upon this forum and read with great interest of your sharing of nose spa therapy. My kids encounter sensitive nose since young, thus I am keen to find out more about this treatment.

        Understand from western doctor, frequent drinking or eating of hot drinks and food will hurt the throat thus might lead to cancer. With the frequent usage of this nose spa which requires steaming (temperature), does it hurt the nose eventually?

        Also, is the medication used is HSA certified?

        Sorry that if you happened to receive this mail more then once, as i don't seem to be able to submit my enquiry previously.

        Hope to hear from you soon.
        Hi,
        I'm a regular in kiasuparents and has been reading all posting in this topic
        Since someone up there mention about HSA, I would like to say something.

        Btw, i has been seeing felizbebe and lilytan keep answering questions post by others. Just curious, is both of you some how related to Herbal Basic TCM? Base on the way both of you reply is very profession and detailed. It really makes me ponder.

        Both of you mention that Nose Spa is good and give them a thumb up. If is really that good, why don't they introduce it to Singapore PD and Singapore Hospital? As you know, Singapore government starts to accept and recognise TCM treatment. Like NUH, there is a TCM, SGH and TTS also have TCM. They should publicize it and introduce it to all Singaporean. Since more than 50% of Singaporean has allergic rhinitis problem.

        Here comes the charges...I have a few friends visited Herbal Basic TCM. They told me that their charges is very high and in order to treat the allergy the physician suggest to them to take treatment package. And their package is thousand over $$. Also, without package, per treatment is also expensive. Further more the xiao er tui na is not done by the physician yet they still charge so high compare to other TCM.

        For those who bring their kids to Herbal Basic TCM, don't you find it expensive?? And can they guarantee that after the whole treatment, the allergic will not occur? If they can't guarantee, isn't it the same as taking chinese herbs? And chinese herbs is not costly. I have two kids age 7 and 4. They have allergic rhinitis as well and theirs condition is under controlled. Further more they don't have to take the chinese herb everyday. Just when their nose feel itch and sneezing, i will give them the chinese herbs. Is so simple.

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          kitty2
          last edited by

          chillyred:
          sassypink:

          Hi Felixbebe


          I chanced upon this forum and read with great interest of your sharing of nose spa therapy. My kids encounter sensitive nose since young, thus I am keen to find out more about this treatment.

          Understand from western doctor, frequent drinking or eating of hot drinks and food will hurt the throat thus might lead to cancer. With the frequent usage of this nose spa which requires steaming (temperature), does it hurt the nose eventually?

          Also, is the medication used is HSA certified?

          Sorry that if you happened to receive this mail more then once, as i don't seem to be able to submit my enquiry previously.

          Hope to hear from you soon.

          Hi,
          I'm a regular in kiasuparents and has been reading all posting in this topic
          Since someone up there mention about HSA, I would like to say something.

          Btw, i has been seeing felizbebe and lilytan keep answering questions post by others. Just curious, is both of you some how related to Herbal Basic TCM? Base on the way both of you reply is very profession and detailed. It really makes me ponder.

          Both of you mention that Nose Spa is good and give them a thumb up. If is really that good, why don't they introduce it to Singapore PD and Singapore Hospital? As you know, Singapore government starts to accept and recognise TCM treatment. Like NUH, there is a TCM, SGH and TTS also have TCM. They should publicize it and introduce it to all Singaporean. Since more than 50% of Singaporean has allergic rhinitis problem.

          Here comes the charges...I have a few friends visited Herbal Basic TCM. They told me that their charges is very high and in order to treat the allergy the physician suggest to them to take treatment package. And their package is thousand over $$. Also, without package, per treatment is also expensive. Further more the xiao er tui na is not done by the physician yet they still charge so high compare to other TCM.

          For those who bring their kids to Herbal Basic TCM, don't you find it expensive?? And can they guarantee that after the whole treatment, the allergic will not occur? If they can't guarantee, isn't it the same as taking chinese herbs? And chinese herbs is not costly. I have two kids age 7 and 4. They have allergic rhinitis as well and theirs condition is under controlled. Further more they don't have to take the chinese herb everyday. Just when their nose feel itch and sneezing, i will give them the chinese herbs. Is so simple.

          Thanks for shaing,i also wonder why noone share here besides the same person.May i know which chinese herbs you give to your kids?

          Thanks

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            sassypink
            last edited by

            kitty2:
            chillyred:

            [quote=\"sassypink\"]Hi Felixbebe


            I chanced upon this forum and read with great interest of your sharing of nose spa therapy. My kids encounter sensitive nose since young, thus I am keen to find out more about this treatment.

            Understand from western doctor, frequent drinking or eating of hot drinks and food will hurt the throat thus might lead to cancer. With the frequent usage of this nose spa which requires steaming (temperature), does it hurt the nose eventually?

            Also, is the medication used is HSA certified?

            Sorry that if you happened to receive this mail more then once, as i don't seem to be able to submit my enquiry previously.

            Hope to hear from you soon.

            Hi,
            I'm a regular in kiasuparents and has been reading all posting in this topic
            Since someone up there mention about HSA, I would like to say something.

            Btw, i has been seeing felizbebe and lilytan keep answering questions post by others. Just curious, is both of you some how related to Herbal Basic TCM? Base on the way both of you reply is very profession and detailed. It really makes me ponder.

            Both of you mention that Nose Spa is good and give them a thumb up. If is really that good, why don't they introduce it to Singapore PD and Singapore Hospital? As you know, Singapore government starts to accept and recognise TCM treatment. Like NUH, there is a TCM, SGH and TTS also have TCM. They should publicize it and introduce it to all Singaporean. Since more than 50% of Singaporean has allergic rhinitis problem.

            Here comes the charges...I have a few friends visited Herbal Basic TCM. They told me that their charges is very high and in order to treat the allergy the physician suggest to them to take treatment package. And their package is thousand over $$. Also, without package, per treatment is also expensive. Further more the xiao er tui na is not done by the physician yet they still charge so high compare to other TCM.

            For those who bring their kids to Herbal Basic TCM, don't you find it expensive?? And can they guarantee that after the whole treatment, the allergic will not occur? If they can't guarantee, isn't it the same as taking chinese herbs? And chinese herbs is not costly. I have two kids age 7 and 4. They have allergic rhinitis as well and theirs condition is under controlled. Further more they don't have to take the chinese herb everyday. Just when their nose feel itch and sneezing, i will give them the chinese herbs. Is so simple.

            Thanks for shaing,i also wonder why noone share here besides the same person.May i know which chinese herbs you give to your kids?

            Thanks[/quote]Hi Chillyred
            thank you for your feedback. Somehow I do agree that not all families are able to afford expensive package treatment. To higher income familes, it is defintely not a problem, but I am sure the middle and lower income group is not able to benefit from this treatment because they simply can't afford.

            Just to clarify, am I right to say that Herbal Basic TCM only target the higher income family and not the rest? Understand from my parents, Havelock is an old estate and believe that there are lots of lower income families and old folks out there.

            Chillyred, you mentioned that some of your friends visited Herbal Basic TCM, do you know if the medicine use is HSA Certified? I very much wanted to bring my kids to try out the treatment but at the same time concern and worry about medication used.

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              Lazymama
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              Hi all,


              My 8 month old recently just came down with runny nose which I passed my virus to her. Being sole care giver it so hard to avoid. I also brought her to herbal basic for nose spa treatment and tuina. Her condition was quite quickly under controlled.

              I have been a customer at herbal basic tcm for about 4 months already… Cuz my baby girl has poor weight gain and doesn’t poo everyday. She poo only 5-6days once. So I decided to bring her to herbal basic thru friend recommendation. I see improvements in her condition siginificantly after about 1 month intensive visits and so continue regularly with lesser frequent visits till now for maintaining her well being purpose. For past 4 months , the physician didn’t advise me to do nose spa at every visits as my girl seldom got nose allergy problem. Only when she really down with runny nose then advise to do nose spa.

              I like it at herbal basic as their service is always friendly and helpful. As for cost affordability it depends on individual family income level so I think it subjective to comment. However, if compare to Thomson medical service TCM service for babies and children they are charging $38 per session for massage and $50 for consultation. At herbal basic, it’s $28 per session massage and don’t charge consultation cost. So on this comparison I find the pricing at herbal basic quite comfortable.

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                Slim mama
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                Hi,

                Myself and my 20 months daughter also Basic Herbal TCM customers. We both have been their customer since the clinic open.

                My daughter started "Xiao Er Tuina" = Baby Massage since 5 days old. Like what Lazymama commented, the baby massage really helps on baby constipation problem, appetite and sleeping problem. These 3 are the major problem always happen to baby. Yes, the price is afforable. I paid $28 per session for baby massage which I still find it cheaper than the TCM at Kembangan. TCM at Kembangan charges is from $30 and sometimes the waiting time at the clinic at least 30 mins.

                As for the nose spa, my daughter ever received nose spa treatment for 7 days continuously. This is not because she is having allergic rhinitis but doing this treatment helps her sleep better at night. My daughter "breath heavily" during her sleep, and I have seen the improvement after the treatments. She can sleep better and "breath lightly" as per normal. The charges is depending on the formula prescribe by physician according to condition. Herbal Basic charges are $13-$20 for single session. Overall their service and charges are pretty reasonable and affordable.

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                  felizbebe
                  last edited by

                  chillyred:
                  sassypink:

                  Hi Felixbebe


                  I chanced upon this forum and read with great interest of your sharing of nose spa therapy. My kids encounter sensitive nose since young, thus I am keen to find out more about this treatment.

                  Understand from western doctor, frequent drinking or eating of hot drinks and food will hurt the throat thus might lead to cancer. With the frequent usage of this nose spa which requires steaming (temperature), does it hurt the nose eventually?

                  Also, is the medication used is HSA certified?

                  Sorry that if you happened to receive this mail more then once, as i don't seem to be able to submit my enquiry previously.

                  Hope to hear from you soon.

                  Hi,
                  I'm a regular in kiasuparents and has been reading all posting in this topic
                  Since someone up there mention about HSA, I would like to say something.

                  Btw, i has been seeing felizbebe and lilytan keep answering questions post by others. Just curious, is both of you some how related to Herbal Basic TCM? Base on the way both of you reply is very profession and detailed. It really makes me ponder.

                  Both of you mention that Nose Spa is good and give them a thumb up. If is really that good, why don't they introduce it to Singapore PD and Singapore Hospital? As you know, Singapore government starts to accept and recognise TCM treatment. Like NUH, there is a TCM, SGH and TTS also have TCM. They should publicize it and introduce it to all Singaporean. Since more than 50% of Singaporean has allergic rhinitis problem.

                  Here comes the charges...I have a few friends visited Herbal Basic TCM. They told me that their charges is very high and in order to treat the allergy the physician suggest to them to take treatment package. And their package is thousand over $$. Also, without package, per treatment is also expensive. Further more the xiao er tui na is not done by the physician yet they still charge so high compare to other TCM.

                  For those who bring their kids to Herbal Basic TCM, don't you find it expensive?? And can they guarantee that after the whole treatment, the allergic will not occur? If they can't guarantee, isn't it the same as taking chinese herbs? And chinese herbs is not costly. I have two kids age 7 and 4. They have allergic rhinitis as well and theirs condition is under controlled. Further more they don't have to take the chinese herb everyday. Just when their nose feel itch and sneezing, i will give them the chinese herbs. Is so simple.

                  Hey Chillyred,

                  First of all, how dare you insult my integrity! The whole idea of this forum is to share with one another our experience, ideas and good tips on health care, I don’t think I deserve to be bad mouth by you.

                  Secondly, I doubt that you are really a regular in Kiasu parents as I’ve never seen any of your posting before, in fact you’ve just joined in on Nov 2 and made this one and only post 4 hours later. Also, if you are a regular, you should know that there has been at least 6 or more peoples giving good feedbacks on Herbal-Basic Clinic, not just me and “lilytan” alone like you said.

                  Let me clarify, I’m not related to Herbal Basic but I’m thankful to Dr Tan for curing my two kids and I like their service & attitude, therefore I don’t mind help to promote them whenever I can. You, on the other hand, made such a hostile post on them, it makes me wonder could it be you are their competitor trying to sabotage their business, or perhaps you had some conflicts with them before? Is that why you are here to vent your anger on them?! However, by the sound of your posting, it also seems that you may not have been there before, but just simply based on the hearsay from your friends. Your motive is indeed very suspicious….

                  Like many other parents, I was also quite skeptical about TCM in the past, until I was desperate as my two children were falling sick every other months and medications such as anti-biotic, zyrtec, singulair, etc etc didn’t seems to help much, that’s where I began to explore alternative treatments such as TCM. A friend of mine then introduced me to Herbal Basic Clinic, and within 3 months I saw a big improvement on their health condition. I was so impressed with it and that’s why I’m for this clinic, it’s that simple!!

                  After visiting the clinic for almost a year on regular basis, there’s no doubt that I have good knowledge on their treatments and have learned quite a bit about TCM. Plus I have picked up the interest to read more on TCM therapies and Chinese herbs, maybe that’s why you thought I sound “professional”, but you were wrong, I was probably just a little bit more knowledgeable in this aspect than you, that’s all.

                  Btw, may I know how do you define “expensive”? as this term is very subjective depending on one’s affordability. At Herbal Basic, they charge between $25 to $28 per session for xiao er tuina, and between $13 to $20 per session for the herbal nose spa, is that really so “expensive” like you said? Why are you trying to project the wrong impression that only high income group can afford to go there? To me and I’m sure many others too, such charges are considered reasonable by Singapore standard, well if that’s something you can’t afford, you are free to go elsewhere, but I don’t think it’s ethical for you to condemn them on no basis. I leave this to the readers of this forum to justify if your accusation was right!

                  Please read the post made by “Healthyy” on Sep 26, she said that she has completed the full 4 months treatment for rhinitis at Herbal Basic Clinic for a year now and there’s no relapse of her rhinitis. Isn’t that a very good testimonial to demonstrate the efficacy of the treatment? Btw, which western doctor or ENT specialist will guarantee you that there will be no relapse after their treatment (even though their fee can be 10 times higher)? If you know of any, please recommend to the readers of this forum.

                  Nevertheless, you mentioned that you have a good way to treat your children’s allergic rhinitis with “not costly” Chinese herbs, I believe this will be a great news to most desperate parents like what I once was, so please reveal the recipe to the readers of this forum and let everybody benefit from it! Since you also said that 50% of our population suffers from allergic rhinitis, so if your “not costly” and “simple” method really works, it will be of great help to our nation and I’m sure MOH will welcome your suggestion!

                  As matured adults, we welcome constructive ideas and suggestions, but please do not turn this forum into your personal place to vent your anger and worst still, a battle field for the readers.



                  Hi sassypink,

                  As you can see, I'm being accused by \"chillyred\" for being \"related to\" Herbal Basic Clinic, therefore I'm afraid it's not very convenient now for me to answer to your questions about the clinic, so I suggest you should contact the clinic yourself and ask them directly, I'm sure you will find a satisfactory answer.

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                    lilytan
                    last edited by

                    chillyred:
                    sassypink:

                    Hi Felixbebe


                    I chanced upon this forum and read with great interest of your sharing of nose spa therapy. My kids encounter sensitive nose since young, thus I am keen to find out more about this treatment.

                    Understand from western doctor, frequent drinking or eating of hot drinks and food will hurt the throat thus might lead to cancer. With the frequent usage of this nose spa which requires steaming (temperature), does it hurt the nose eventually?

                    Also, is the medication used is HSA certified?

                    Sorry that if you happened to receive this mail more then once, as i don't seem to be able to submit my enquiry previously.

                    Hope to hear from you soon.

                    Hi,
                    I'm a regular in kiasuparents and has been reading all posting in this topic
                    Since someone up there mention about HSA, I would like to say something.

                    Btw, i has been seeing felizbebe and lilytan keep answering questions post by others. Just curious, is both of you some how related to Herbal Basic TCM? Base on the way both of you reply is very profession and detailed. It really makes me ponder.

                    Both of you mention that Nose Spa is good and give them a thumb up. If is really that good, why don't they introduce it to Singapore PD and Singapore Hospital? As you know, Singapore government starts to accept and recognise TCM treatment. Like NUH, there is a TCM, SGH and TTS also have TCM. They should publicize it and introduce it to all Singaporean. Since more than 50% of Singaporean has allergic rhinitis problem.

                    Here comes the charges...I have a few friends visited Herbal Basic TCM. They told me that their charges is very high and in order to treat the allergy the physician suggest to them to take treatment package. And their package is thousand over $$. Also, without package, per treatment is also expensive. Further more the xiao er tui na is not done by the physician yet they still charge so high compare to other TCM.

                    For those who bring their kids to Herbal Basic TCM, don't you find it expensive?? And can they guarantee that after the whole treatment, the allergic will not occur? If they can't guarantee, isn't it the same as taking chinese herbs? And chinese herbs is not costly. I have two kids age 7 and 4. They have allergic rhinitis as well and theirs condition is under controlled. Further more they don't have to take the chinese herb everyday. Just when their nose feel itch and sneezing, i will give them the chinese herbs. Is so simple.

                    Hello Chillyred,

                    I'm here to clarify that I'm not related to Herbal Basic TCM. We are just doctor and patient tats all. As my 3 kids and myself are Dr Tan many years patients. My 3 kids are her patients since birth for xiao er tui na and myself lately sign up her nose spa package.

                    Whether their charges expensive a not, in my point of view I would say for me is affordable. Of course if compare to ENT and other TCM located at hospitals, I think Herbal Basic TCM charges still at the reasonable side.

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                      sassypink
                      last edited by

                      felizbebe:
                      chillyred:

                      [quote=\"sassypink\"]Hi Felixbebe


                      I chanced upon this forum and read with great interest of your sharing of nose spa therapy. My kids encounter sensitive nose since young, thus I am keen to find out more about this treatment.

                      Understand from western doctor, frequent drinking or eating of hot drinks and food will hurt the throat thus might lead to cancer. With the frequent usage of this nose spa which requires steaming (temperature), does it hurt the nose eventually?

                      Also, is the medication used is HSA certified?

                      Sorry that if you happened to receive this mail more then once, as i don't seem to be able to submit my enquiry previously.










                      Hope to hear from you soon.

                      Hi,
                      I'm a regular in kiasuparents and has been reading all posting in this topic
                      Since someone up there mention about HSA, I would like to say something.

                      Btw, i has been seeing felizbebe and lilytan keep answering questions post by others. Just curious, is both of you some how related to Herbal Basic TCM? Base on the way both of you reply is very profession and detailed. It really makes me ponder.

                      Both of you mention that Nose Spa is good and give them a thumb up. If is really that good, why don't they introduce it to Singapore PD and Singapore Hospital? As you know, Singapore government starts to accept and recognise TCM treatment. Like NUH, there is a TCM, SGH and TTS also have TCM. They should publicize it and introduce it to all Singaporean. Since more than 50% of Singaporean has allergic rhinitis problem.

                      Here comes the charges...I have a few friends visited Herbal Basic TCM. They told me that their charges is very high and in order to treat the allergy the physician suggest to them to take treatment package. And their package is thousand over $$. Also, without package, per treatment is also expensive. Further more the xiao er tui na is not done by the physician yet they still charge so high compare to other TCM.

                      For those who bring their kids to Herbal Basic TCM, don't you find it expensive?? And can they guarantee that after the whole treatment, the allergic will not occur? If they can't guarantee, isn't it the same as taking chinese herbs? And chinese herbs is not costly. I have two kids age 7 and 4. They have allergic rhinitis as well and theirs condition is under controlled. Further more they don't have to take the chinese herb everyday. Just when their nose feel itch and sneezing, i will give them the chinese herbs. Is so simple.

                      Hey Chillyred,

                      First of all, how dare you insult my integrity! The whole idea of this forum is to share with one another our experience, ideas and good tips on health care, I don’t think I deserve to be bad mouth by you.

                      Secondly, I doubt that you are really a regular in Kiasu parents as I’ve never seen any of your posting before, in fact you’ve just joined in on Nov 2 and made this one and only post 4 hours later. Also, if you are a regular, you should know that there has been at least 6 or more peoples giving good feedbacks on Herbal-Basic Clinic, not just me and “lilytan” alone like you said.

                      Let me clarify, I’m not related to Herbal Basic but I’m thankful to Dr Tan for curing my two kids and I like their service & attitude, therefore I don’t mind help to promote them whenever I can. You, on the other hand, made such a hostile post on them, it makes me wonder could it be you are their competitor trying to sabotage their business, or perhaps you had some conflicts with them before? Is that why you are here to vent your anger on them?! However, by the sound of your posting, it also seems that you may not have been there before, but just simply based on the hearsay from your friends. Your motive is indeed very suspicious….

                      Like many other parents, I was also quite skeptical about TCM in the past, until I was desperate as my two children were falling sick every other months and medications such as anti-biotic, zyrtec, singulair, etc etc didn’t seems to help much, that’s where I began to explore alternative treatments such as TCM. A friend of mine then introduced me to Herbal Basic Clinic, and within 3 months I saw a big improvement on their health condition. I was so impressed with it and that’s why I’m for this clinic, it’s that simple!!

                      After visiting the clinic for almost a year on regular basis, there’s no doubt that I have good knowledge on their treatments and have learned quite a bit about TCM. Plus I have picked up the interest to read more on TCM therapies and Chinese herbs, maybe that’s why you thought I sound “professional”, but you were wrong, I was probably just a little bit more knowledgeable in this aspect than you, that’s all.

                      Btw, may I know how do you define “expensive”? as this term is very subjective depending on one’s affordability. At Herbal Basic, they charge between $25 to $28 per session for xiao er tuina, and between $13 to $20 per session for the herbal nose spa, is that really so “expensive” like you said? Why are you trying to project the wrong impression that only high income group can afford to go there? To me and I’m sure many others too, such charges are considered reasonable by Singapore standard, well if that’s something you can’t afford, you are free to go elsewhere, but I don’t think it’s ethical for you to condemn them on no basis. I leave this to the readers of this forum to justify if your accusation was right!

                      Please read the post made by “Healthyy” on Sep 26, she said that she has completed the full 4 months treatment for rhinitis at Herbal Basic Clinic for a year now and there’s no relapse of her rhinitis. Isn’t that a very good testimonial to demonstrate the efficacy of the treatment? Btw, which western doctor or ENT specialist will guarantee you that there will be no relapse after their treatment (even though their fee can be 10 times higher)? If you know of any, please recommend to the readers of this forum.

                      Nevertheless, you mentioned that you have a good way to treat your children’s allergic rhinitis with “not costly” Chinese herbs, I believe this will be a great news to most desperate parents like what I once was, so please reveal the recipe to the readers of this forum and let everybody benefit from it! Since you also said that 50% of our population suffers from allergic rhinitis, so if your “not costly” and “simple” method really works, it will be of great help to our nation and I’m sure MOH will welcome your suggestion!

                      As matured adults, we welcome constructive ideas and suggestions, but please do not turn this forum into your personal place to vent your anger and worst still, a battle field for the readers.



                      Hi sassypink,

                      As you can see, I'm being accused by \"chillyred\" for being \"related to\" Herbal Basic Clinic, therefore I'm afraid it's not very convenient now for me to answer to your questions about the clinic, so I suggest you should contact the clinic yourself and ask them directly, I'm sure you will find a satisfactory answer.[/quote]Felizbebe

                      From my point of view, i am not really sure whether Chillyred is accusing you, looking at this parent's posting, he/she might just want to share her friends experienced at Herbal Basic TCM.

                      I will call Herbal Basic TCM for more information.

                      Thank you!

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                        chillyred
                        last edited by

                        felizbebe:
                        chillyred:

                        [quote=\"sassypink\"]Hi Felixbebe


                        I chanced upon this forum and read with great interest of your sharing of nose spa therapy. My kids encounter sensitive nose since young, thus I am keen to find out more about this treatment.

                        Understand from western doctor, frequent drinking or eating of hot drinks and food will hurt the throat thus might lead to cancer. With the frequent usage of this nose spa which requires steaming (temperature), does it hurt the nose eventually?

                        Also, is the medication used is HSA certified?

                        Sorry that if you happened to receive this mail more then once, as i don't seem to be able to submit my enquiry previously.

                        Hope to hear from you soon.

                        Hi,
                        I'm a regular in kiasuparents and has been reading all posting in this topic
                        Since someone up there mention about HSA, I would like to say something.

                        Btw, i has been seeing felizbebe and lilytan keep answering questions post by others. Just curious, is both of you some how related to Herbal Basic TCM? Base on the way both of you reply is very profession and detailed. It really makes me ponder.

                        Both of you mention that Nose Spa is good and give them a thumb up. If is really that good, why don't they introduce it to Singapore PD and Singapore Hospital? As you know, Singapore government starts to accept and recognise TCM treatment. Like NUH, there is a TCM, SGH and TTS also have TCM. They should publicize it and introduce it to all Singaporean. Since more than 50% of Singaporean has allergic rhinitis problem.

                        Here comes the charges...I have a few friends visited Herbal Basic TCM. They told me that their charges is very high and in order to treat the allergy the physician suggest to them to take treatment package. And their package is thousand over $$. Also, without package, per treatment is also expensive. Further more the xiao er tui na is not done by the physician yet they still charge so high compare to other TCM.

                        For those who bring their kids to Herbal Basic TCM, don't you find it expensive?? And can they guarantee that after the whole treatment, the allergic will not occur? If they can't guarantee, isn't it the same as taking chinese herbs? And chinese herbs is not costly. I have two kids age 7 and 4. They have allergic rhinitis as well and theirs condition is under controlled. Further more they don't have to take the chinese herb everyday. Just when their nose feel itch and sneezing, i will give them the chinese herbs. Is so simple.

                        Hey Chillyred,

                        First of all, how dare you insult my integrity! The whole idea of this forum is to share with one another our experience, ideas and good tips on health care, I don’t think I deserve to be bad mouth by you.

                        Secondly, I doubt that you are really a regular in Kiasu parents as I’ve never seen any of your posting before, in fact you’ve just joined in on Nov 2 and made this one and only post 4 hours later. Also, if you are a regular, you should know that there has been at least 6 or more peoples giving good feedbacks on Herbal-Basic Clinic, not just me and “lilytan” alone like you said.

                        Let me clarify, I’m not related to Herbal Basic but I’m thankful to Dr Tan for curing my two kids and I like their service & attitude, therefore I don’t mind help to promote them whenever I can. You, on the other hand, made such a hostile post on them, it makes me wonder could it be you are their competitor trying to sabotage their business, or perhaps you had some conflicts with them before? Is that why you are here to vent your anger on them?! However, by the sound of your posting, it also seems that you may not have been there before, but just simply based on the hearsay from your friends. Your motive is indeed very suspicious….

                        Like many other parents, I was also quite skeptical about TCM in the past, until I was desperate as my two children were falling sick every other months and medications such as anti-biotic, zyrtec, singulair, etc etc didn’t seems to help much, that’s where I began to explore alternative treatments such as TCM. A friend of mine then introduced me to Herbal Basic Clinic, and within 3 months I saw a big improvement on their health condition. I was so impressed with it and that’s why I’m for this clinic, it’s that simple!!

                        After visiting the clinic for almost a year on regular basis, there’s no doubt that I have good knowledge on their treatments and have learned quite a bit about TCM. Plus I have picked up the interest to read more on TCM therapies and Chinese herbs, maybe that’s why you thought I sound “professional”, but you were wrong, I was probably just a little bit more knowledgeable in this aspect than you, that’s all.

                        Btw, may I know how do you define “expensive”? as this term is very subjective depending on one’s affordability. At Herbal Basic, they charge between $25 to $28 per session for xiao er tuina, and between $13 to $20 per session for the herbal nose spa, is that really so “expensive” like you said? Why are you trying to project the wrong impression that only high income group can afford to go there? To me and I’m sure many others too, such charges are considered reasonable by Singapore standard, well if that’s something you can’t afford, you are free to go elsewhere, but I don’t think it’s ethical for you to condemn them on no basis. I leave this to the readers of this forum to justify if your accusation was right!

                        Please read the post made by “Healthyy” on Sep 26, she said that she has completed the full 4 months treatment for rhinitis at Herbal Basic Clinic for a year now and there’s no relapse of her rhinitis. Isn’t that a very good testimonial to demonstrate the efficacy of the treatment? Btw, which western doctor or ENT specialist will guarantee you that there will be no relapse after their treatment (even though their fee can be 10 times higher)? If you know of any, please recommend to the readers of this forum.

                        Nevertheless, you mentioned that you have a good way to treat your children’s allergic rhinitis with “not costly” Chinese herbs, I believe this will be a great news to most desperate parents like what I once was, so please reveal the recipe to the readers of this forum and let everybody benefit from it! Since you also said that 50% of our population suffers from allergic rhinitis, so if your “not costly” and “simple” method really works, it will be of great help to our nation and I’m sure MOH will welcome your suggestion!

                        As matured adults, we welcome constructive ideas and suggestions, but please do not turn this forum into your personal place to vent your anger and worst still, a battle field for the readers.



                        Hi sassypink,

                        As you can see, I'm being accused by \"chillyred\" for being \"related to\" Herbal Basic Clinic, therefore I'm afraid it's not very convenient now for me to answer to your questions about the clinic, so I suggest you should contact the clinic yourself and ask them directly, I'm sure you will find a satisfactory answer.[/quote]
                        Felizbebe,

                        I bet you must have taken a couple of hours to share your view.
                        This is quite a long and thought out reply, which I find it amazing that u take such great effort to rebut on my comment, which was simply a feedback from couple of friends who had apparently patronised Herbal Basic TCM.

                        This forum is meant to share experience and it is not a judgement of their service or capability. Neither is it a flatform to argue about ones opinion on a service one experienced. Surely there are other feedback, either good or bad. Regardless, it doesn't require such an over reaction from you, someone who is only a patron and perhaps have had a good experience at Herbal Basic TCM. I wish you well.

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