MOE Relooking P1 registration - Too much priority to alumni
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beanstalk:
It works both ways. Religion is a sensitive issue and for those who subscribe to one, it can be very emotional. It is very hard to say if a Christian child should be deprived of a Christian education simply because his/her parents chose to reside outside of 2 km of a school. Singapore is small, 'outside 2 km' could mean 2.5 or 20 km. With expressways, and a car, a kid living outside of 2 km may actually reach home the same time as someone walking home a few blocks away.
You already said it's a privilege.. it shd never be an entitlement.limlim:
[quote=\"keroppi\"]
It's a privilege to know that my children will be imbibing the same Christian values while receiving their education in the every same schools we graduated from.
Your privilege is another citizen's unfairness and losses.. and that place could have been given to the poor kids who stays just opposite the school. One place taken by an alumni's kids who lives >2km, one place less for the kid next door.
[/quote]If that is the case then we should scrap the whole notion whereby places are allocated based on home distance from school for all phases that needs balloting and everyone's name will go into the ballot bowl for the one staying next block together with the one staying at Pulau Ubin.... :evil: -
rich parent can always just move or rent within 1km of "branded" school just to register their kids for P1. This will only push up property prices even higher around "branded" school.
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Jav:
Keep only P1 for siblings entitlement. Scrap all phases after that & goes by distance with the school entitlement. It's no brain to see alumni who stay in the east put their kids to central or Bt timah for schooling depriving the little kids sleep & rests.
:salute:
Agree, or should group all the connections (alumni, PV, Church, Clans, GRL) under the same pot (phase 2B) and go by distance priority with Sg Citizens over PR like the revised scheme when balloting is required. This way there is no argument whose connection/ efforts more important. All equally important. Staff/ Teachers should still stay in phase 2A and siblings in phase 1.
I find it strange that some of the forumers here are calling for the scrapping of PV stating that its unfair for the PV to have contributed their hours and yet not given a place. I sense some are just red-eyed that they can't or not willing to PV and thus calling for the abolishment of PV so that the playing field is leveled in their favor. -
IDad:
:goodpost:Jav:
Keep only P1 for siblings entitlement. Scrap all phases after that & goes by distance with the school entitlement. It's no brain to see alumni who stay in the east put their kids to central or Bt timah for schooling depriving the little kids sleep & rests.
:salute:
Agree, or should group all the connections (alumni, PV, Church, Clans, GRL) under the same pot (phase 2B) and go by distance priority with Sg Citizens over PR like the revised scheme when balloting is required. This way there is no argument whose connection/ efforts more important. All equally important. Staff/ Teachers should still stay in phase 2A and siblings in phase 1.
By distance will favors the rich, yet the current system favors the alumni...... -
Regarding why many elite/branded schools are centralized in Bt Timah / Dunearn Rd area, fair enough. The premise of the school is fixed, but the management & the people running the school is not. Then why not move the management to the new school and have them run as branches, some may say brand is important right. It’s all just about funding! Just some idea for MOE to consider
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limlim:
Well, life is never fair. Please hor, don't you try and stand on a higher moral ground with me when you don't even know my situation! I stayed right next door to a very popular Christian school in the East. To get a place in that school, I will have to ballot under 2C which I only stand 1 in 4 chance to get a place. So I have kindly given up my application to let some else apply while I send our kids to our alma mater. For the last 10 years, I drive them to school so distance is not an issue for me or my kids.
You already said it's a privilege.. it shd never be an entitlement.keroppi:
It's a privilege to know that my children will be imbibing the same Christian values while receiving their education in the every same schools we graduated from.
Your privilege is another citizen's unfairness and losses.. and that place could have been given to the poor kids who stays just opposite the school. One place taken by an alumni's kids who lives >2km, one place less for the kid next door.
FYI, there are not many Christian schools in Singapore. If you are not a Christian parent, you probably wouldn't understand. -
Jav:
It's all just about funding! Just some idea for MOE to consider
It's not just the funding, it's primarily the parents - it's not surprising that such schools have very strong parent support group. A lot of these schools do not need PVs. There's a very strong partnership between the teachers and parents. Many events are run by the parent volunteers. We are ready to step up and help when the schools ask for volunteers for school events, after-exam parties and funfairs. And the camaraderie between the stakeholders, aka parents, is commendable. -
beanstalk:
It works both ways. Religion is a sensitive issue and for those who subscribe to one, it can be very emotional. It is very hard to say if a Christian child should be deprived of a Christian education simply because his/her parents chose to reside outside of 2 km of a school. Singapore is small, 'outside 2 km' could mean 2.5 or 20 km. With expressways, and a car, a kid living outside of 2 km may actually reach home the same time as someone walking home a few blocks away. [/quote]The parents made the choice. What more do you want to say?
You already said it's a privilege.. it shd never be an entitlement.limlim:
[quote=\"keroppi\"]
It's a privilege to know that my children will be imbibing the same Christian values while receiving their education in the every same schools we graduated from.
Your privilege is another citizen's unfairness and losses.. and that place could have been given to the poor kids who stays just opposite the school. One place taken by an alumni's kids who lives >2km, one place less for the kid next door.
You value religious faith in lessons, Other value their sleep/health. Why should you be given priority over the others?
Why should connection be valued over practicality?
And children are not deprive of their religious beliefs.. They can attend church every week or every day if they like. No body stops them. For your own convenience of having the religious teachings in the school instead of separately in the church, you deprive others of practical convenience. Is this fair?
And the expressway example.. the users on cars is jamming up the roads causing much inconvenience to other road users, in the morning and evening. -
Jav:
Regarding why many elite/branded schools are centralized in Bt Timah / Dunearn Rd area, fair enough. The premise of the school is fixed, but the management & the people running the school is not. Then why not move the management to the new school and have them run as branches, some may say brand is important right. It's all just about funding! Just some idea for MOE to consider
IMHO, location does matter. Parents who can afford a place in Bukit Timah / Dunearn Rd area are definitely better off financially and have the resources to \"enrich\" their children through expensive tuition, courses, expensive vacations, etc. They will also be able to donate more generously when the school needs to raise funds for activities and programmes. If we create another branch of the school in a different location (say in the east), even with the same Principal and staff, I am just not sure the outcome will be the same. -
Let’s leave religion out of this. Too sensitive lah. Peace.
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