There are more dogs than humans in Singapore
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verykiasu2010:
so if he can't find a job in singapore due to this episode, does he still need to be bonded since no one wants to employ him ?[/quote]I think the bond will still be in force. Maybe he might ended up serving his bond in the public sector or a GLC. I personally hope he will not be serving the bond in MOE teaching our kids.
Today's Straits times mentioned that he is a MOE scholar and need to work for a Singapore-based company for 6 years. So he cannot go back to China and look for a job.Trapwithin:
[quote=\"phtthp\"]even if SX graduate from NUS Mechanical Engineering degree, he'll have problem looking for job.
by now - everyone had heard of him, heard of his disgraceful deeds & intolearable behavior in SG.
his behavior so unbecoming of any learned person, not to mention even a scholar. He is a blacksheep amongst scholars.
working organizations, global MNCs shun him, even if he apply for job - unless he work in China, his family help him pull string. He can't hide his name, can't hide his face.
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I don’t think he will be out of job. That’s the last thing he will be worried. More of "face" issue. Most Chinese wants "face" and want to look good.
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peapot:
I don't think he will be out of job. That's the last thing he will be worried. More of \"face\" issue. Most Chinese wants \"face\" and want to look good.
this thought didnt cross his mind when he posted that comment :evil: -
http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_782120.html
Now, we have another case, this time a student from Nanyang Polytechnic. -
phtthp:
hope he has learnt his lesson well for life, \"redeem\" himself turn over a new leaf, put on his best armour of HUMILITY at his new work place.
Leopards will never change their spots... -
zmonster1969:
A more serious case is the insensitive remark by a Swiss lawyer regarding Singaporeans not entitled to jobs. She & her friend in PR / HR position some more.http://www.straitstimes.com/BreakingNews/Singapore/Story/STIStory_782120.html
Now, we have another case, this time a student from Nanyang Polytechnic.
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Swiss expats say Singaporeans not entitled to jobs in Singapore
March 26th, 2012 | Author: Contributions
Swiss lawyer Franziska Zimmermann may have been in Singapore for only 18 months, but she talked as if she has been staying in Singapore since birth and even found fit to lecture Singaporeans!
In an interview conducted by the Straits Times on expatriates working in Singapore, 37 year old Ms Zimmermann felt that Singaporeans are generally friendly to foreigners though some harbor anti-foreigner sentiments, that is to be expected.
“This anti-foreigner issue is in every city. It’s a natural debate and the Swiss are questioning it too. But no one owes anyone else a living; you cannot say you are entitled to jobs in your country,” she says.
Her colleague Ms. Elouisa Dalli added that she is “aware” that Singaporeans worry about a growing divide between the cosmopolitan rich like her she brags, and lower-income heartlanders, but praises Singapore as a society where “opportunities remain open to all.”
“Everyone in Singapore, regardless of his social background, has the same access to the MRT, education, safety and job opportunities. Only if these opportunities are available only to the top in society that you have a true divide,” she was quoted as saying.
The insensitive and downright stupid statements by the arrogant ladies, Zimmerman and Dalli, are not only insulting to Singaporeans, but are harmful to the two ladies and even more so to Syngenta, the company for which they both work.
Ms. Zimmerman is Manager, Public Affairs Asia-Pacific at Syngenta Asia Pacific Pte. Ltd. It is unforgivable that a manager of public affairs would make such an inappropriate comment about the guest country, Singapore, where she is working.
Elouisa Dalli is Media & Community Relations Manager, for Syngenta. She is supposed to generate good publicity for Syngenta, but has done exactly the opposite.
Franziska Zimmermann and Elouisa Dalli are not qualified for their jobs as they are insensitive to public affairs or community relations. In both these areas they have only damaged not only their own reputations, but Syngenta’s as well.
Syngenta for its own good, and as an apology to Singapore and Singaporeans, should fire both Franziska Zimmermann and Elouisa Dalli.
Singapore should withdraw their employment visas, as well.
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John Harding
* John Harding blogs at http://johnharding.com
http://www.tremeritus.com/2012/03/26/swiss-expats-say-singaporeans-not-entitled-to-jobs-in-singapore/ -
Below are netizens' responses to the Swiss's remarks.
Worth reading is the last 3 responses from angmohs.
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There are several different categories of response to her comment. The most common ones were simply direct angry response:
hammer head: Go back to your so-called swiss B****** !!!
SAYNO2FT: Who gave them permissions to speak about our Country in the first place!!! Pls ask the both to buzz off to their own countries & work!
Then we have netizens questioning why they are here taking up jobs which can be perform by locals:
Benjamin Lim: Syngenta, why don’t you hire Singaporeans instead of putting 2 ignoramuses in charge of PR? What a huge mistake!”
Penny Koh: We have here two FTs who have taken JOBS away from Singaporeans…correct? Why doesn’t Syngenta hire Singaporeans for their jobs? Something’s not right with this whole picture.
Winston Tan: I have been looking for a job for 1 year now, with no success. Luckily for me, the rest of my family are helping me. Jobs in Singapore are so hard to get now, that these foreign women who are lecturing us…me, about jobs, show how insensitive, intolerant, snobbish and cruel they are. What can someone like me do, when I cannot get a job? I have been sending out well over a 100 resumes, so far no luck. Do these women know how expensive it is to live in Singapore? Of course not. These women have no money problems. Just talk rubbish about “no one owes anyone else a living; you cannot say you are entitled to jobs in your country”. I am trying to find a job, but so far, there are none. Why don’t one of you give up your job for me?
Michael T SY: One Swiss, one British, take our jobs, get the big money, talk rubbish about Singapore people, then go home. Ridiculous.
Go Home: Just look at their faces, you can see how spoilt they really are. Cushy lives, with cushy jobs, fly all over the world, and come here and tell Singaporeans that we are not entitled to jobs in our country! of course not!!! you 2 idiots have our JOBS.
Amanda: Connections is how you got to be where you are Ms Dalli and Ms Zimmermann. If everyone has equal opportunites for jobs, etc – we would have your jobs. Syngenta, why don’t you hire me? I am a Singaporean, I have a degree from NUS in Business Admin. I am looking for a job. I was let go from my last job with Sintel.
Others question if their own country would be open to influx of foreign workers:
Intelligent: Nobody is entitled to jobs in their own counry BUT they should be entitled to be treated differently from PR and foreigners like Zimmerman in their own country. If you go to Switzerland, u will find out how hard is it for foreigners to compete with the local Swiss, who are well supported by their government.
Switzerland open floodgates: Why doesn’t she say that Switzerland should open the flood-gates to any foreign trash too, especially those from the Third World countries?
Jojo: And for foreigners to work in Switzerland? Not even the french and italians have found a way to get a permit there.
Non-EU Citizens: For non EU members it is more difficult to get a work permit. An employer has to prove that the job on offer could not be filled by a Swiss worker or an EU national. The employer has to send an offer of employment and then apply for a residence permit in the canton’s local police section for foreigners. If this is successful, the non-EU national will receive a pre-authorisation of residency (Zusicherung der Aufenthaltsbewilligung or Autorisation de Séjour). When the employee arrives in Switzerland to begin work, this must be shown at the local Cantonal Population Office (OCP) when application for a residence permit is made. The whole process of obtaining a work permit can take many months and there is no guarantee that a work permit will be issued (http://geneva.angloinfo.com/countries/switzerland/employ.asp).
Some talked about the sacrifices of our own locals and why Singaporeans should be taken care of first:
citizen: (She) knows nothing of how we came this far. Where was she and her likes when we went through turbulent times?
I serve NS not to have a right: I don’t have entitlements in my own country? My compatriots and I servce NS and ongoing annual mobilisations, risk life and limb, train under heavy artillery fire (try to be near to Arty firing range or deploy close to guns) to keep my country safe, sound, and prosperous and THEN for you to walk in, get a comfy job, lecture me and my compatriots on our rights??? Get real lady.
Poor Retiree: To say we are not entitled to jobs in Singapore after helping to build up this country from scratch, paid our taxes over the years, served in NS etc is downright insolent, insulting and arrogant. Would she dare say the same thing back home if it were invaded by hordes from third world country and many of her people jobless?
Some are puzzled by why a PR person will make such insensitive comment:
Superiority Complexd: It is a joke that they both hold a job relating to public relation affairs and yet displayed such an immature attitude.
payout: Very inappropriate for a pr officer to make these comments when the ground is sour. Anyone contact her company for clarification?
And some expats working in Singapore certainly do not agree with her comment:
Laurine Toner: Their insensitive comments don’t represent the many foreigners who work and live in Singapore. Thank You!
Taylor L Wilcox: I work in Singapore as well. These remarks were certainly out of line, and unwarranted. Singapore and the people of Singapore are wonderful people. You know, they probably “mis spoke”??? Quite unfortunate.
Boyden Gray: …and from the mouths of rich and priveledged babes, Zimmermann and Dalli lectures the people of Singapore about jobs. This is the level of intelligence and ideology of rich FTs we have to show for in Singapore? God help every job-seeking Singaporean. ps: not all angmohs are created equal either.
http://www.tremeritus.com/2012/03/27/angry-response-from-netizens-towards-expats-comment-that-singaporeans-not-entitled-to-jobs-in-singapore/ -
See people talking about fts taking away jobs at the expense of locals. Anw, whether these fts are really talented are debatable. Two things are in their favor, namely a degree from a recognised uni plus good communication skills. Our next generation just hve to work hard academically and continue to improve on their communication skills to remain internationally mobile.
To avoid being in an awkward situation when you are in yr forties and fifties which are vulnerable to retrenchment especially in private sector, just avoid these two comittments: 30-yr housing loan and 10 yr car loan. If you are committed to these, sorry you are destined to be a slave for life! -
真是一波末平，一波又起。we r just easily targets for FTs.
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you can choose not to be of victim-mentality
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